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I don't see a vag here. I don't see nipples either.
Replies: 182Last Post Aug. 19, 2008 3:55am by HatesYou
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audrey820


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No.

That isn't a nude. It's a piece of art, a simple sculpture.

Nudity in art is fine.

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FA has a point. HatesYou, see if you can get the model in the image to be attacked by a basilisk.

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Quote: from audrey820 at 9:55 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

No.

That isn't a nude. It's a piece of art, a simple sculpture.

Nudity in art is fine.


But it is 'nude'. And who determines what is and isn't "art"? I agree that a 13 year old, in her (or his) underwear taking a picture in the mirror would be hard pressed to justify it as art, but the picture in the OP of this thread could definitely be called art and I don't think you have any parameters that prove otherwise.

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TheOtherHorseman


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I could smear a pile of feces into a crude smiley face. Who are you to say that isn't art?

Who are you to say it isn't performance art to tell someone to kill themselves?

Oh, wait. Maybe we can exercise personal discretion and judgment and stop pushing boundaries for the sake of doing so.

Post edited at 8:09 pm on Aug. 14, 2008 by TheOtherHorseman

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Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 10:09 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

I could smear a pile of feces into a crude smiley face. Who are you to say that isn't art?

Who are you to say it isn't performance art to tell someone to kill themselves?

Oh, wait. Maybe we can exercise personal discretion and judgment and stop pushing boundaries for the sake of doing so.


Being facetious is not helpful. If you don't want to see boundaries being pushed, go tell NASA to shut down.

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That wasn't being facetious.

Either we can accept that art stops just shy of someone smearing whipped cream all over their naked body, or we can just let it be a nebulous word that becomes meaningless in its grand scope.

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Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 10:24 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

That wasn't being facetious.

Either we can accept that art stops just shy of someone smearing whipped cream all over their naked body, or we can just let it be a nebulous word that becomes meaningless in its grand scope.


What do you believe there is about that picture that prevents it from being called art? What is it about this picture that makes it art? And who decides?

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 11:40 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 10:24 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

That wasn't being facetious.  

 Either we can accept that art stops just shy of someone smearing whipped cream all over their naked body, or we can just let it be a nebulous word that becomes meaningless in its grand scope.


What do you believe there is about that picture that prevents it from being called art? What is it about this picture that makes it art? And who decides?

The difference between the two images, and between the strawberry orgy and the David statue, could be said to be clear and throbbing sexuality in one.

Regardless, to what is I am sure our collective astonishment, the people empowered to deal with and interpret guidelines get to decide. You don't need to bold "who" like it is some sort of gripping mystery. It is a matter of individual discretion constrained by broad guidelines.

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hI jAMES


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Man, this is pretty hot. Have any topics like this and the other one ever made it past 25 replies? On a side not, that picture to me seems a little provocative but these days that child is going to see that on the TV anyway. Hell the next Haynes underwear commercial might have something like this. And if that boys mom has such a problem with this site for a picture, well then she might as well disable her television. Whats the difference?

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Frankly I would just like to see consistency in the image approval system. If we're not going to allow this one then we shouldn't be allowing this one either. If we can't come to a general consensus about what to allow and what not to allow, perhaps we should just ban all pictures from the site.

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Quote: from Fountain of Salmacis at 11:53 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

Frankly I would just like to see consistency in the image approval system. If we're not going to allow this one then we shouldn't be allowing this one either. If we can't come to a general consensus about what to allow and what not to allow, perhaps we should just ban all pictures from the site.

Agreed on that picture statement. Although, I am eating a strawberry now, so something has come out of all of this.

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hI jAMES


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Quote: from Fountain of Salmacis at 11:53 pm on Aug. 14, 2008

Frankly I would just like to see consistency in the image approval system. If we're not going to allow this one then we shouldn't be allowing this one either. If we can't come to a general consensus about what to allow and what not to allow, perhaps we should just ban all pictures from the site.

Should we have just a total image review?  But wait, we can't.  Our mods have different opinions.  Its a flawed system.  Some people will get treated fair and some wont.  Whats the solution?  Because I haven't really read one in this whole thread.

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it wasn't allowed because of  
a.how overtly sexual the image was
b.the topic was just posted for the sake of attention. it wasn't deleted solely because of the picture, she asked members to "lick her pussy"

Post edited at 9:05 pm on Aug. 14, 2008 by major

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yeahhhhhhhha

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Solution:

Quote: from Fountain of Salmacis at 5:53 am on Aug. 15, 2008


Perhaps we should just ban all pictures from the site.

But then, how exciting would this site be?

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Quote: from HatesYou at 12:03 am on Aug. 15, 2008

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Quote: from Fountain of Salmacis at 5:53 am on Aug. 15, 2008


Perhaps we should just ban all pictures from the site.

But then, how exciting would this site be?


We still have all the excessive vulgar language and immature 13 year olds asking if their penises are too small, to entertain us.

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