Hip-hop is just like every other genre of music. There is good stuff and there is bad stuff and there is everything in between. And anyone who writes off an entire genre as complete shit based on the crap on the radio is a closed-minded tool.

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It used to have meaning in the 80's then when "gangster rap" came out it took over turning attention from hip-hop to rap

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That is a really generalised, stupid comment; coming from the perspective of someone who has never delved any deeper than the surface (mainstream) of Hip hop.  

On different levels, in different countries and in god knows how many languages Hip hop has thrived as an artform through the late 1980s to the 1990s  and until the present day.  

A good example comes from my country, Australia, where the hip hop community was informally established in the early 1980s and grew with the culture itself, with the music growing over 2 decades to in (my opinion) a peak in quality at the beggining of this century and a commercial peak about 2 years ago.  

I spent the majority of my formative listening to hip hop, starting with the Eminems, Snoop Doggs, Dr. Dre's etc. My interests soon branched out into the Jurassic Fives, De La Souls, Big Daddy Kanes, Tribe Called Quest and then into my own country's music.  

Though I have moved away from Hip Hop in the last 2 years I, I still hold a deep affinity towards it because it defined who I was as a human.  

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Quote: from LittleItaly at 4:39 pm on Aug. 22, 2008

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It used to have meaning in the 80's then when "gangster rap" came out it took over turning attention from hip-hop to rap

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That is a really generalised, stupid comment; coming from the perspective of someone who has never delved any deeper than the surface (mainstream) of Hip hop.

On different levels, in different countries and in god knows how many languages Hip hop has thrived as an artform through the late 1980s to the 1990s and until the present day.

A good example comes from my country, Australia, where the hip hop community was informally established in the early 1980s and grew with the culture itself, with the music growing over 2 decades to in (my opinion) a peak in quality at the beggining of this century and a commercial peak about 2 years ago.  

I spent the majority of my formative listening to hip hop, starting with the Eminems, Snoop Doggs, Dr. Dre's etc. My interests soon branched out into the Jurassic Fives, De La Souls, Big Daddy Kanes, Tribe Called Quest and then into my own country's music.  

Though I have moved away from Hip Hop in the last 2 years I, I still hold a deep affinity towards it because it defined who I was as a human.

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Quote: from Hoop Jargon at 5:19 am on Sep. 7, 2008

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Quote: from LittleItaly at 4:39 pm on Aug. 22, 2008

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It used to have meaning in the 80's then when "gangster rap" came out it took over turning attention from hip-hop to rap

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 That is a really generalised, stupid comment; coming from the perspective of someone who has never delved any deeper than the surface (mainstream) of Hip hop.    

 On different levels, in different countries and in god knows how many languages Hip hop has thrived as an artform through the late 1980s to the 1990s  and until the present day.    

 A good example comes from my country, Australia, where the hip hop community was informally established in the early 1980s and grew with the culture itself, with the music growing over 2 decades to in (my opinion) a peak in quality at the beggining of this century and a commercial peak about 2 years ago.  

 I spent the majority of my formative listening to hip hop, starting with the Eminems, Snoop Doggs, Dr. Dre's etc. My interests soon branched out into the Jurassic Fives, De La Souls, Big Daddy Kanes, Tribe Called Quest and then into my own country's music.  

 Though I have moved away from Hip Hop in the last 2 years I, I still hold a deep affinity towards it because it defined who I was as a human.  

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....i wasn't talking about your country, they made hip hop for their own people....it wasn't even intended for people outside their community they did primarily to keep off the streets, but some luck it's got them....

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I know, as an American, you generalised all of hip hop, and that was a sill thing to say, because it isn't true.

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I don't like it in general, although there's the occasional track that I like. Mostly, though, it annoys me. I'm not a fan.

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yup yup yup, I'm the same

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