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Replies: 28Last Post Aug. 19, 2008 7:45pm by sophos
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Choice Votes Percent  
...is unknown to be right or wrong 9 15%
...is right or wrong depending on the circumstance 27 45%
...is always wrong no matter the circumstance 12 20%
Other 11 18%
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Wow. I just realized how much I typed.

It was probably unnecessary. Sorry.

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Quote: from FutileRhetoric at 6:42 pm on Aug. 15, 2008

Yes and I wanted people to explain why they believed. Why do you think it's wrong most of the time?

Life is the most sacred thing we have, and to take it without reason is the ultimate theft. I want to say sin, or evil, but I don't believe in those.

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Quote: from FutileRhetoric at 8:40 pm on Aug. 15, 2008

Quote: from Majo at 5:38 pm on Aug. 15, 2008

Quote: from FurryPanther at 8:34 pm on Aug. 15, 2008

Circumstantial. Typically wrong, but can be a good thing.

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 Echoed.  

 For example, the 1966 shooting at the University of Texas at Austin. That guy had to be taken down. Had he not been, he might have kept going until he ran out of ammo.


You're missing the message, apparently so has FP. Would you not say that taking down the the guy in Texas was justified because it was NECESSARY, specifically to protect the lives of "innocent" people?


I'm missing the message? Psh, you're the one who is confused. My reasoning is right there in my post, in plain English. Maybe you should go back, reread it, and think.

I very clearly stated that HE HAD TO BE TAKEN DOWN OR HE MIGHT HAVE KEPT GOING. How could I make my opinion any clearer that I think killing to protect the lives of innocent people is, at the very least, better than sparing the life of the murderer and, in turn, allowing him to continue killing. I just fucking agreed with the actions of the cop who took him down, what I think is right there.

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It's circumstantial, like most moral dilemmas.

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Our President Bush claims to be a religious person yet he ordered the unnecessary killing of 3-400,000 innocent people including our own.  He apparently feels no guilt for it.  

I would choose number two but would use it only as a last resort.  The easiest part is pulling the trigger.  The hard part would be to have then mentality to use the power of killing someone as a very last resort by communicating and reconciling.  


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If you chose #2 you're playing God =p.

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It's absolute, like most moral dilemmas.

I voted for the third option, but I would probably have phrased it (were it open ended) that I cannot presently conceive of a situation in which taking another human life would be justifiable.

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It is always wrong, but sometimes it is less wrong than the alternatives.

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Taking the life of another person is always wrong, but, in some circumstances, failure to act is just as wrong.  In these moments there is either no good way, or the good way might cost more than anyone is willing to pay.

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The true answer will only be found in a kill or be killed situation.

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Quote: from Tangaroa at 7:21 pm on Aug. 17, 2008

It is always wrong, but sometimes it is less wrong than the alternatives.

Pacificism: violence as a necessary evil.  I can at least respect that.  It's the official stance of the Orthodox Church.

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In a kill or be killed situation, why does it become right to kill your attacker? By defending your own life aren't you creating two victims?

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Quote: from Tangaroa at 8:21 pm on Aug. 17, 2008

It is always wrong, but sometimes it is less wrong than the alternatives.

Is there now a scale of wrongness? If something is less wrong, doesn't that make it more right?

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Quote: from FutileRhetoric at 10:10 am on Aug. 18, 2008

Quote: from sophos at 3:01 am on Aug. 18, 2008

The true answer will only be found in a kill or be killed situation.
In a kill or be killed situation, why does it become right to kill your attacker? By defending your own life aren't you creating two victims?

There is no right or wrong. While some may like to preach scripture, and others stand on ideals, the true answer can only be known when one is in such a dilemma. Everything else is simply lip service.

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