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Homosexuality & My Religion: Christianity.
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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 10:30 am on Aug. 8, 2008

And while that's all well and good, it doesn't change the fact that what you did was the opposite of helping.
From your perspective, perhaps. The intention was to usher him out of the darkness of religion.

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Which is not what he wants. Perhaps you should do as people so often advise those with religious beliefs to do and stop pushing what you believe on those who are uninterested.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 2:23 am on Aug. 9, 2008

Which is not what he wants. Perhaps you should do as people so often advise those with religious beliefs to do and stop pushing what you believe on those who are uninterested.
A call for introspection is for him to re-evaluate his beliefs. Nothing else.

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Quote: from sophos at 1:45 pm on Aug. 8, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 2:23 am on Aug. 9, 2008

Which is not what he wants. Perhaps you should do as people so often advise those with religious beliefs to do and stop pushing what you believe on those who are uninterested.
A call for introspection is for him to re-evaluate his beliefs. Nothing else.

Contradicting yourself?

The intention was to usher him out of the darkness of religion.


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Quote: from Forever Angel at 2:50 am on Aug. 9, 2008

Contradicting yourself ?
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A call for introspection is for him to re-evaluate his beliefs

with the intention to usher him out of the darkness of religion.
How is this contradictory?

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the church has no problems with gays

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Quote: from sophos at 2:23 pm on Aug. 8, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 2:50 am on Aug. 9, 2008

Contradicting yourself ?
Quote: from sophos

A call for introspection is for him to re-evaluate his beliefs. Nothing else.

The intention was to usher him out of the darkness of religion.
How is this contradictory?

Saying that you are only calling for him to re-evaluate his beliefs and saying your intention is to change his beliefs would seem to be a bit of a contradiction.

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 3:35 am on Aug. 9, 2008

Saying that you are only calling for him to re-evaluate his beliefs and saying your intention is to change his beliefs would seem to be a bit of a contradiction.
Impossible as it may sound, your deficient comprehension seems to have affected your reading. Where did you get "change his beliefs" from?

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Quote: from sophos at 2:45 pm on Aug. 8, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 2:23 am on Aug. 9, 2008

Which is not what he wants. Perhaps you should do as people so often advise those with religious beliefs to do and stop pushing what you believe on those who are uninterested.
A call for introspection is for him to re-evaluate his beliefs. Nothing else.

Which is, again, not what he's looking for, making you still unhelpful.

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Quote: from sophos at 2:49 pm on Aug. 8, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 3:35 am on Aug. 9, 2008

Saying that you are only calling for him to re-evaluate his beliefs and saying your intention is to change his beliefs would seem to be a bit of a contradiction.
Impossible as it may sound, your deficient comprehension seems to have affected your reading. Where did you get "change his beliefs" from?

It doesn't take a genius to understand that

usher him out of the darkness of religion
means just that. If that's not what you meant, then you would be the one with a comprehension problem, not me. Maybe English is not your first language?

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 3:52 am on Aug. 9, 2008

Which is, again, not what he's looking for, making you still unhelpful.
What he wants is an impossibility. Which is why introspection is in order.

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Quote: from sophos at 3:01 pm on Aug. 8, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 3:52 am on Aug. 9, 2008

Which is, again, not what he's looking for, making you still unhelpful.
What he wants is an impossibility. Which is why introspection is in order.

What is the impossible desire? And why?

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 3:58 am on Aug. 9, 2008

It doesn't take a genius to understand that

usher him out of the darkness of religion
means just that...

It only takes your kind of genius. Let's try again.

Introspection is the evaluation of one's own thoughts and feelings. If he begins to realise the errors of his religion, he will simply abandon those beliefs. In order to change someone's beliefs, a substitute set must be offered in its place. No such substitute was ever offered, as change was never intended.

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Quote: from sophos at 4:01 pm on Aug. 8, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 3:52 am on Aug. 9, 2008

Which is, again, not what he's looking for, making you still unhelpful.
What he wants is an impossibility. Which is why introspection is in order.

How is it impossible, or is it only impossible in your (biased) eyes?

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Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:11 am on Aug. 9, 2008

What is the impossible desire? And why?
For god and gays to play together.

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