It is doctors who have forced him to think it must be something undiscovered. Let me explain the wickedness of the doctors. I don't expect competence or high caliber. Just sincerity. The least psychiatrists should do is listen.

The boy consults four different psychiatric clinics on his own. After a few visits he takes his father along. The psychiatrists get extremely irritated and ask the father angrily, "What has happened to him? Why does he come here again and again?"  

For 3.5 years the boy had taken doctor's words (misdiagnosis) at face value. Then he realizes while he is suffering, while he is "dying", psychiatrists talk about everything in the world but don't utter a single word about what happens in his case and how a patient feels in this particular case etc. They just fit him in some universal disease and dispose off the case.

Remember how in the Bosnian movie 'No Man's Land' what the UN does.

More frustration as the parents of this patient are convinced that it is all boy's fault for not doing his part, not doing his duty, not doing his responsibility. They believe it's just a bit of stress which can be overcome by you know, recreation, discipline, regular studies, exercise etc.

The state he lives in is very backward so even the state's premier medical institutions will be insensitive. I will start another thread on how the state's backwardness affects the problem. I wanted the MRI of brain. But I am afraid the state's incompetent doctors might read the MRI wrongly. The opportunity of this expensive test might get wasted.

Unintended wickedness of some doctors. Look how some doctors are unintentionally wicked. One psychiatrist gets fascinated by this unique case, shows whole-hearted sincerity, best of intentions, talks politely, jots down voraciously and even keeps a copy of my hand written description. But due to his lack of caliber doesn't really understand the illness. Many people here become doctors only because Medical Council of India is corrupt. Corruption is evrywhere, even in West's well-administered countries but nobody must be crap-brained like here.

Due to this wicked state my parents have become my enemies. Thinking that I am at fault they harass me. You know the kind of nagging that can drive one to suicide.

Due to some reason I cannot go outside the state. It's a case of "which came first egg or chicken? Since I am having problem I cannot go outside the state and since I cannot go outside the state I cannot be treated. The only hope is to search scientists on internet.

And there is also the question of whether to switch to brain doctors (on internet of course). I have given up hope of cure. What I want is no-fault-certificate to show it to my parents and then I can die peacefully. One cannot carry on in life with this handicap.

Some institutions, some organizations, like say United Nations, ICC referees and umpires, Red-Tape, Oscar awards (winners are decided by casting couch and favoritism) etc become defunct due to lack of sincerity or lack of talent. What is the English terminology for such 'phenomenon of powerful authorities doing nothing to fulfill there duties despite having means'?  

I forgot to mention the these doctors are perhaps bad listeners.

Post edited at 5:56 am on July 10, 2008 by barbaad admi2

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A youngster realizes he is suffering from an undiscovered psychiatric or brain disease.

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The rest of the post seems rather wish washy and vague.

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Intelligence is the ability to avoid doing work, yet getting the work done.

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A youngster realizes he is suffering from an undiscovered psychiatric or brain disease.

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How could they? They are not qualified to diagnose themselves, apart from being young and uneducated, even doctors shouldn't be diagnosing themselves, because you can't. You can't analyse your own point of view and diagnose yourself.

The rest of the post seems rather wish washy and vague.

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Read again please!!!!!!!!! I have edited

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It is doctors who have forced him to think it must be something undiscovered. Let me explain the wickedness of the doctors. I don't expect competence or high caliber. Just sincerity. The least psychiatrists should do is listen.

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For 3.5 years the boy had taken doctor's words (misdiagnosis) at face value. Then he realizes while he is suffering, while he is "dying", psychiatrists talk about everything in the world but don't utter a single word about what happens in his case and how a patient feels in this particular case etc. They just fit him in some universal disease and dispose off the case.

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The state he lives in is very backward so even the state's premier medical institutions will be insensitive. I will start another thread on how the state's backwardness affects the problem. I wanted the MRI of brain. But I am afraid the state's incompetent doctors might read the MRI wrongly. The opportunity of this expensive test might get wasted.

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But even then, you have to trust doctors. They know what to look for on an MRI image, but they can miss things. If it's something they've never seen before of course they might overlook it, and you can't hold this against them. They are humans and they are fallible. You're hardly more qualified than a doctor to find or explain something from an MRI scan, are you?

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It's still the same though.  

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It is doctors who have forced him to think it must be something undiscovered. Let me explain the wickedness of the doctors. I don't expect competence or high caliber. Just sincerity. The least psychiatrists should do is listen.

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Why did they force him to think it's undiscovered? Again my previous statement applied. I don't see how this kid is qualified  to say that his 'condition' (because he assumes he has one) is something new or never seen before. It very well could be, but all these psychological disorders are hard to categorise in the first place, and even then a lot of them have symptoms that fall into a lot of conditions.  

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For 3.5 years the boy had taken doctor's words (misdiagnosis) at face value. Then he realizes while he is suffering, while he is "dying", psychiatrists talk about everything in the world but don't utter a single word about what happens in his case and how a patient feels in this particular case etc. They just fit him in some universal disease and dispose off the case.

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Again, I don't understand how this kid can say that the psychiatrists are wrong at all. He has had no formal training from what I'm aware and so is not qualified to diagnose anyone let alone himself. Reading books or studying things from the Internet is no enough. If I somehow read all the reading material given to your average medical student would that make me a Doctor? No, of course not. Because one has to learn from practical experiences and explanations from professors and other doctors.  

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The state he lives in is very backward so even the state's premier medical institutions will be insensitive. I will start another thread on how the state's backwardness affects the problem. I wanted the MRI of brain. But I am afraid the state's incompetent doctors might read the MRI wrongly. The opportunity of this expensive test might get wasted.

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I'm sorry, but you'd rather not get an MRI than have it 'read wrongly'. More to the point, MRIs are never used to diagnose a psychological condition, because they can't be. An MRI is used to show the physical structure of areas of the body. A brain MRI could show cancerous cells or areas of the brain that aren't 'normal' structurally.  

But even then, you have to trust doctors. They know what to look for on an MRI image, but they can miss things. If it's something they've never seen before of course they might overlook it, and you can't hold this against them. They are humans and they are fallible. You're hardly more qualified than a doctor to find or explain something from an MRI scan, are you?

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Post edited at 6:23 am on July 10, 2008 by barbaad admi2

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Now I know during the USA Presidential election campaign of the Mrs. Hillary Clinton why some sexists were shouting, "Iron my shirt! Iron my shirt!"

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Quote: from barbaad admi2 at 2:20 pm on July 10, 2008

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Now I know during the USA Presidential election campaign of the Mrs. Hillary Clinton why some sexists were shouting, "Iron my shirt! Iron my shirt!"

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I don't get it? So are you just trolling?

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Suppose if I post the description, you know symptoms?

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Suppose if I post the description, you know symptoms?

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This needs professional consulting, you can't find it on the Internet, someone would have to physically question you and watch your body language and your reactions.

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Quote: from barbaad admi2 at 2:24 pm on July 10, 2008

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Suppose if I post the description, you know symptoms?

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If you posted the name of a verified psychiatric disorder I could look up the symptoms for it. But neither you or I are fit to diagnose anyone, not to mention the fact that even if you had some of the symptoms you still may not have the disorder. Psychiatric disorders are very confusing and can often be misdiagnosed because of the inherent idea.

This needs professional consulting, you can't find it on the Internet, someone would have to physically question you and watch your body language and your reactions.

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You stay in the advanced country of England and I stay in Karnataka, one of the backward states of India. What do you know of the situation here?

The problem is not the illness but the system of medical institutions here. I repeat the doctors are not doing the basics i.e. listening.

How would you feel if instead of treating you the doctors get irritated and angrily ask you, "Why do you come here again and again?"

And secondly you want to say, "The physical defects of brain have absolutely no effect on the mind?"

My perception of USA is people get innovative, start discovering and inventing from an early (read teen) age. Which is why I came to find scientists here.

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You stay in the advanced country of England and I stay in Karnataka, one of the backward states of India. What do you know of the situation here?

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The problem is not the illness but the system of medical institutions here. I repeat the doctors are not doing the basics i.e. listening.

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How would you feel if instead of treating you the doctors get irritated and angrily ask you, "Why do you come here again and again?"

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And secondly you want to say, "The physical defects of brain have absolutely no effect on the mind?"

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My perception of USA is people get innovative, start discovering and inventing from an early (read teen) age. Which is why I came to find scientists here.

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I'm actually curious now. What were you diagnosed with and why do you think the doctors are wrong?

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You don't have to say that to please me.

My point is Western world has a different culture of advanced medical care. This is India. The circumstances are indeed as glaring as I said.

Why is my thread not appearing on the list of fresh topics?