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athiesm is a load of crap
Replies: 83Last Post July 8, 2008 6:15pm by Forever Angel
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"Dude,you need to have stuff they can't explan away,like how brilienyt Scientist George wasington carver as also christan.
Being Christan actualy HELPED him with his experiments." - Shogun Villimax

Question: How does someone being Christian or Buddhist or whatever belief, help with scientific experiments? These experiments are meant to be objective, so if you wish to include your beliefs, it's now subjective. In doing so, you introduce a possibility for biases so the outcome will fit with what you expect.

Did you mean that perhaps God helped out with the experiment? Maybe God was chilling in heaven reading up on some quantum physics or mircobiology.

If you care for your little book so much, here are some other books you may like (it's only a short list but I'm sure you could add more):
- The Three Little Pigs
- James and the Giant Peach
- Snow White
- Alladin
And you can add in some more. Happy reading :D

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Quote: from kiralynn2007 at 7:24 pm on July 3, 2008

hell sounds fun. >__>

It'd be a lot better than hanging out with pious, chaste, straight edge doofuses all eternity.

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Bullshit. The story of Jesus has been told for thousands of years BEFORE Jesus. Just under different names. It's all to do with astronomy.

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Quote: from liberalsareevil at 7:23 pm on July 3, 2008

I believe that it is a load of crap. jesus does exist and if any people have read the bible they would realize that. Adam and eve is how the human race started to begin with. God created the earth, the plants, the trees, and many things.

But if you choose not to believe and burn in hell that is your choice



Okay, number 1, how is thinking scientifically a "load of crap?" Do you honestly believe that people should automatically believe whatever they read if a religion says so? The Bible was pieced together by the church around the 300s CE. They chose which texts went into it. Do you trust these people you never knew? What about the other thousands-of-years-old religious literature from other parts of the world? You automatically discredit them because your church says they are wrong?

Number two: Yes, the Bible does say the human race was started by Adam and Eve. But is there any evidence of this besides what is in Genesis? For a source to be guaranteed accurate, there must be other sources to back it up. If it stands alone it will never be taken seriously.

Number three: How can you prove that God created the Earth? As I brought up in the first section, there are many ancient religious texts (and also oral traditions) from around the world. Most have differing events in their creation stories, even if many do involve deities. Is there concrete evidence that the Christian creation myth has more credibility?Is there any proof that a powerful immortal being made the universe? 6-10,000 years ago (according to the Bible)?!?! There is no evidence to support this. If you are interested in learning about the nature of the universe and what scientists have concluded from research, evidence, and a lot of hard work, then look up string theory and m theory.

Look, I'm not saying your religion is wrong, just that you should use your brain. Question everything. That's what got us out of Medieval times and into the modern world. It's how medical and technological advances are made. Single-mindedness leads to racism, other predjudices, and misconceptions. Try to understand what other people think and then make a decision.

P.S. - To all who believe evolution (& other scientific theories) should not be taught in school because there's no proof, then you are a hypocrite, because intelligent design has even less proof. This "theory" is trying to bend science to fit a religious belief. This is not scientific. True scientific knowlege is obtained through research backed by evidence, trial and error, and observation.

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I know exactly what you mean, liberalsareevil! Next thing you know, there will be some bullshit part of our constitution allowing freedom of religion or some shit!

Stop being ignorant.


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Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:14 am on July 6, 2008

Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 11:17 pm on July 5, 2008

I didn't say i knew the origin of the point, nor would I be arrogant enough to venture any guess.
Science doesn't know either. Nor does it pretend to know.  

 


When you say we don't know what dark matter is, do you mean that we don't know it's appearance or equivalence of an atom or what? We do know what it is, anti-matter, but we don't know it's makeup, appearance, etc.
Well, I didn't say 'dark matter' but since you brought it up... "... dark matter is not antimatter, because we do not see the unique gamma rays that are produced when antimatter annihilates with matter."  

What I did say was 'Dark Energy'... "More is unknown than is known. We know how much dark energy there is because we know how it affects the Universe's expansion. Other than that, it is a complete mystery."
http://nasascience.nasa.gov/astrophysics/what-is-dark-energy  

Like I said, you should read up on these things a bit.  


Would you please find a credible scientific source for your claim about the wear of human bodies?
Start here.


You seemed to insinuate god was responsible for the things "unexplainable by science" (they will be, just not in the present). Plus, you did mention god.

 "Well, you don't believe in the power of God, so that's a natural reaction for you. However, I do believe, therefore anything is possible with God. So, if He wishes it so, Mary will have His son."


That was in a different post. I made that comment based on the content in my last post only.

Correction, science doesn't know yet.

energy can be converted to matter, and vice versa. The same goes for dark matter and dark energy.  

I mistyped dark matter as anti-matter due to my rapid typing speed. I do make mistakes occasionally. Amazingly, I have read up on these things, only there are different opinions on it in the science community, just as with string theory and other barely know things in science.

http://longevity.about.com/od/researchandmedicine/p/wear_tear.htm

http://longevity.about.com/od/longevity101/a/why_we_age.htm

These were linked to your link. They seem to to disagree with your thoughts on the aging process of humans.

However you want to cut it, you still seemed to insinuate that god was the cause and answer for the things as of yet unexplainable by science.

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 4:09 pm on July 8, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:14 am on July 6, 2008

Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 11:17 pm on July 5, 2008

I didn't say i knew the origin of the point, nor would I be arrogant enough to venture any guess.
Science doesn't know either. Nor does it pretend to know.  

 


When you say we don't know what dark matter is, do you mean that we don't know it's appearance or equivalence of an atom or what? We do know what it is, anti-matter, but we don't know it's makeup, appearance, etc.
Well, I didn't say 'dark matter' but since you brought it up... "... dark matter is not antimatter, because we do not see the unique gamma rays that are produced when antimatter annihilates with matter."  

 What I did say was 'Dark Energy'... "More is unknown than is known. We know how much dark energy there is because we know how it affects the Universe's expansion. Other than that, it is a complete mystery."  
 http://nasascience.nasa.gov/astrophysics/what-is-dark-energy  

 Like I said, you should read up on these things a bit.  
 


Would you please find a credible scientific source for your claim about the wear of human bodies?
Start here.    

 


You seemed to insinuate god was responsible for the things "unexplainable by science" (they will be, just not in the present). Plus, you did mention god.    

  "Well, you don't believe in the power of God, so that's a natural reaction for you. However, I do believe, therefore anything is possible with God. So, if He wishes it so, Mary will have His son."


That was in a different post. I made that comment based on the content in my last post only.

Correction, science doesn't know yet.

energy can be converted to matter, and vice versa. The same goes for dark matter and dark energy.    

I mistyped dark matter as anti-matter due to my rapid typing speed. I do make mistakes occasionally. Amazingly, I have read up on these things, only there are different opinions on it in the science community, just as with string theory and other barely know things in science.

http://longevity.about.com/od/researchandmedicine/p/wear_tear.htm

http://longevity.about.com/od/longevity101/a/why_we_age.htm

These were linked to your link. They seem to to disagree with your thoughts on the aging process of humans.

However you want to cut it, you still seemed to insinuate that god was the cause and answer for the things as of yet unexplainable by science.


The logic for attributing things science cannot yet explain as a product of godly intervention is akin to attributing all such matters with powerful magical fairies controlling everything or super duper unicorns ramming into the and creating planets.

If we cannot explain an occurence, then any explanation, no matter how implausible can be used to explain such an occurence.

Therefore, we rely on what we do know and what we can explain. We use our existing knowledge as a basis for learning more about our world.


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I believe that it is a load of crap. jesus might exist and if any people have read the bible they would realize that possibility. Adam and eve is how the human race started to begin with, or any man and woman with any name(the name really does not matter). God is the earth, the plants, the trees, and everything.

But if you choose not to believe and live your life like anybody else, that's your choice

Fixed, and now we think exactly the same.

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Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 6:09 pm on July 8, 2008

Quote: from Forever Angel at 6:14 am on July 6, 2008

Quote: from nigeltheoutlaw at 11:17 pm on July 5, 2008

I didn't say i knew the origin of the point, nor would I be arrogant enough to venture any guess.
Science doesn't know either. Nor does it pretend to know.  

 


When you say we don't know what dark matter is, do you mean that we don't know it's appearance or equivalence of an atom or what? We do know what it is, anti-matter, but we don't know it's makeup, appearance, etc.
Well, I didn't say 'dark matter' but since you brought it up... "... dark matter is not antimatter, because we do not see the unique gamma rays that are produced when antimatter annihilates with matter."  

 What I did say was 'Dark Energy'... "More is unknown than is known. We know how much dark energy there is because we know how it affects the Universe's expansion. Other than that, it is a complete mystery."  
 http://nasascience.nasa.gov/astrophysics/what-is-dark-energy  

 Like I said, you should read up on these things a bit.  
 


Would you please find a credible scientific source for your claim about the wear of human bodies?
Start here.    

 


You seemed to insinuate god was responsible for the things "unexplainable by science" (they will be, just not in the present). Plus, you did mention god.    

  "Well, you don't believe in the power of God, so that's a natural reaction for you. However, I do believe, therefore anything is possible with God. So, if He wishes it so, Mary will have His son."


That was in a different post. I made that comment based on the content in my last post only.

Correction, science doesn't know yet.

energy can be converted to matter, and vice versa. The same goes for dark matter and dark energy.    

I mistyped dark matter as anti-matter due to my rapid typing speed. I do make mistakes occasionally. Amazingly, I have read up on these things, only there are different opinions on it in the science community, just as with string theory and other barely know things in science.

http://longevity.about.com/od/researchandmedicine/p/wear_tear.htm

http://longevity.about.com/od/longevity101/a/why_we_age.htm

These were linked to your link. They seem to to disagree with your thoughts on the aging process of humans.

However you want to cut it, you still seemed to insinuate that god was the cause and answer for the things as of yet unexplainable by science.


Ah, you love to see things that aren't there, don't you? I never once said that God was the cause or answer for anything that science doesn't have the answer for. And if you read carefully, those links contain only opinions, not 'facts'.

Speedy typing is now an excuse for ignorance? Make very sure of your understanding of the 'dark' make-up of the universe before you start telling me what you 'know'. I really doubt you know more (or even as much) as I do about this particular subject. Just saying that 'dark matter is anti-matter' is a really big clue and I'm pretty sure that wasn't due to the speed at which you may be typing.

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