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Quote: from HANCOCK at 10:02 pm on May 3, 2009

Netherlands - 1 Infected
Denmark - 1 infected
Canada - 35 infected
US - 1 death - 109 infected
Mexico - 12 deaths - 300 infected
Costa Rica - 2 infected
Spain - 13 infected
U.K - 10 infected
Germany - 4 infected
Austria - 1 infected
Switzerland - 1 infected
Israel - 2 infected
Hong Kong - 1 infected
New Zealand - 4 infected

updated : 01 may 2009


And I'm fairly certain that the one death in the US was actually a Mexican child brought across the border for treatment, not an American citizen.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 5:31 am on May 4, 2009

Quote: from HANCOCK at 10:02 pm on May 3, 2009

Netherlands - 1 Infected  
 Denmark - 1 infected  
 Canada - 35 infected  
 US - 1 death - 109 infected  
 Mexico - 12 deaths - 300 infected  
 Costa Rica - 2 infected  
 Spain - 13 infected  
 U.K - 10 infected  
 Germany - 4 infected  
 Austria - 1 infected  
 Switzerland - 1 infected  
 Israel - 2 infected  
 Hong Kong - 1 infected  
 New Zealand - 4 infected  

 updated : 01 may 2009


And I'm fairly certain that the one death in the US was actually a Mexican child brought across the border for treatment, not an American citizen.


Which clearly makes it less of a tragedy  

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:44 am on May 4, 2009

Except it's not, not any more than the seasonal flu, and I'll thank you to show recent evidence that says otherwise.

Look at any BBC article on it (can't be bothered to go through them all) and it claims it affects the respiritory system more than seasonal flu, thus putting a larger number of people at risk. Also the fact that we have no immunity against the new strain makes it mroe serious. I'm sure the people at the WHO know what theya re doing, and if it were just a case of the sniffles would not be wasting so much money. They are also pretty sure that a second more virulent wave is coming in the winter


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8021958.stm

Look at that for starters then you can have a look around.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 12:31 am on May 4, 2009

Quote: from HANCOCK at 10:02 pm on May 3, 2009

Netherlands - 1 Infected  
 Denmark - 1 infected  
 Canada - 35 infected  
 US - 1 death - 109 infected  
 Mexico - 12 deaths - 300 infected  
 Costa Rica - 2 infected  
 Spain - 13 infected  
 U.K - 10 infected  
 Germany - 4 infected  
 Austria - 1 infected  
 Switzerland - 1 infected  
 Israel - 2 infected  
 Hong Kong - 1 infected  
 New Zealand - 4 infected  

 updated : 01 may 2009


And I'm fairly certain that the one death in the US was actually a Mexican child brought across the border for treatment, not an American citizen.


It was. A two year old baby, where did you hear that? I heard it on one of my youtube subs.

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Quote: from TheatreMinelli at 6:30 am on May 4, 2009

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:44 am on May 4, 2009

Except it's not, not any more than the seasonal flu, and I'll thank you to show recent evidence that says otherwise.

Look at any BBC article on it (can't be bothered to go through them all) and it claims it affects the respiritory system more than seasonal flu, thus putting a larger number of people at risk. Also the fact that we have no immunity against the new strain makes it mroe serious. I'm sure the people at the WHO know what theya re doing, and if it were just a case of the sniffles would not be wasting so much money. They are also pretty sure that a second more virulent wave is coming in the winter

 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8021958.stm

Look at that for starters then you can have a look around.


The death rate for the seasonall flu is well over 34000. The death rate for this pandemic is barely at, what, maybe 200, and it's lessening. They do not compare. They're wasting moeny, creating panic, and oh look, suddenly the pandemic is not as bad as they thought it was. Suspicious. *sigh*

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Quote: from TigressaLynnMae at 1:48 pm on May 4, 2009

Quote: from TheatreMinelli at 6:30 am on May 4, 2009

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:44 am on May 4, 2009

Except it's not, not any more than the seasonal flu, and I'll thank you to show recent evidence that says otherwise.
 

 Look at any BBC article on it (can't be bothered to go through them all) and it claims it affects the respiritory system more than seasonal flu, thus putting a larger number of people at risk. Also the fact that we have no immunity against the new strain makes it mroe serious. I'm sure the people at the WHO know what theya re doing, and if it were just a case of the sniffles would not be wasting so much money. They are also pretty sure that a second more virulent wave is coming in the winter  

 
 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8021958.stm  

 Look at that for starters then you can have a look around.


The death rate for the seasonall flu is well over 34000. The death rate for this pandemic is barely at, what, maybe 200, and it's lessening. They do not compare. They're wasting moeny, creating panic, and oh look, suddenly the pandemic is not as bad as they thought it was. Suspicious. *sigh*


Its actually not slowing down but spreading in the US. And those figures are annual figures. In a years time we will be better able to compare. They cannot just waste money, these things will have gone through many levels of the WHO and many many docotors and specialists will have been consulted. You people are acting as if they have just plucked this out of nowhere. These people know what they are talking about.

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Its actually not slowing down but spreading in the US


Wrong. The CDC stated, yesterday, that the cases were decreasing significantly.


And those figures are annual figures

What's your point? It's still quite comparable.


They cannot just waste money, these things will have gone through many levels of the WHO and many many docotors and specialists will have been consulted.

Yeah, they can waste money, through unecesary research, broadcasting of media, and panic.


You people are acting as if they have just plucked this out of nowhere. These people know what they are talking about.

It did just kidna appear. The cure rate for the swine flu is, give or take, a week. The seasonal flu can be far more deadly.

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Quote: from TheatreMinelli at 6:30 am on May 4, 2009

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:44 am on May 4, 2009

Except it's not, not any more than the seasonal flu, and I'll thank you to show recent evidence that says otherwise.

Look at any BBC article on it (can't be bothered to go through them all) and it claims it affects the respiritory system more than seasonal flu, thus putting a larger number of people at risk. Also the fact that we have no immunity against the new strain makes it mroe serious. I'm sure the people at the WHO know what theya re doing, and if it were just a case of the sniffles would not be wasting so much money. They are also pretty sure that a second more virulent wave is coming in the winter

 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8021958.stm

Look at that for starters then you can have a look around.


I'm sure they do, particularly as they've said, as recently as this morning, that it's not that bad:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090504/ts_nm/us_flu_who_pandemic


"Level 6 does not mean, in any way, that we are facing the end of the world. It is important to make this clear because (otherwise) when we announce level 6 it will cause an unnecessary panic," she told Spanish newspaper El Pais.

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On Sunday, a WHO spokesman said the relatively large number of infections in Spain of what has been commonly known as swine flu -- at 40, according to the WHO's count -- seemed to be mainly "imported" cases involving people returning from Mexico, the epicenter of the disease outbreak.

Chan echoed this and said that so far, there were not many flu patients in Europe that have not been to Mexico or had direct contact with those who had.


I mean, seriously...good grief! The sky is still not falling, and there's no need to wring our hands and weep until we know what this thing is going to do. It's most likely going to be another seasonal flu, maybe a little bit more widespread because of the lack of immunity, but as you'll notice that people in countries with somewhat decent healthcare systems aren't dying, I think you should relax and go worry about something else that can be panic-inducing. Like global warming.

And no, it doesn't make it less tragic that the child was from Mexico; what it makes it is false reporting. The way it's been reported has suggested that it was an American who died, which is not the case. And yes, it does make quite a lot of difference, as much difference as it would make for someone who'd had bad healthcare all his life to go to the world's greatest hospital to get treatment and die within.

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Like global warming.

That's nothing to worry about, either. And it's neither global warming, nor global cooling. Legally, it's not global climate change, and it's just Earth's natural way of taking care of herself.

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Chillax yourself, Tigressa, and talk about that in another thread. This one's about baconfluenza.

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Chillax yourself, Tigressa, and talk about that in another thread. This one's about baconfluenza.

I was merely making a statement, don't get your knickers in a twist.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 4:11 pm on May 4, 2009

Chillax yourself, Tigressa, and talk about that in another thread. This one's about baconfluenza.

Well the British media certainly have not reported it falsley all media outlets over here have stressed the fact that it was a mexican child.

Recently I have compared the US medias coverage to the UKs and I have come to the conclusion that the US media is ridiculous.

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Quote: from TigressaLynnMae at 3:14 pm on May 4, 2009


Its actually not slowing down but spreading in the US


Wrong. The CDC stated, yesterday, that the cases were decreasing significantly.


And those figures are annual figures

What's your point? It's still quite comparable.


They cannot just waste money, these things will have gone through many levels of the WHO and many many docotors and specialists will have been consulted.

Yeah, they can waste money, through unecesary research, broadcasting of media, and panic.


You people are acting as if they have just plucked this out of nowhere. These people know what they are talking about.

It did just kidna appear. The cure rate for the swine flu is, give or take, a week. The seasonal flu can be far more deadly.


Can I have your source for the CDC please as all reports I have seen say that the flu is spreading showing no signs of slowing in the US, and over here we have not yet reached the peak with new cases being confirmed everyday.

Maybe you misread as reports claim the virus is curbing in Mexico but not in the USA or Europe.



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Quote: from TheatreMinelli at 11:36 am on May 4, 2009

Well the British media certainly have not reported it falsley all media outlets over here have stressed the fact that it was a mexican child.  

Recently I have compared the US medias coverage to the UKs and I have come to the conclusion that the US media is ridiculous.


I never said that they reported it falsely. I said it was misleading. Most media outlets I've seen have had the big splashy headline of "FIRST DEATH FROM SWINE FLU IN THE US" (which, sadly, is the most a lot of people will read) and then mention later in the article "...was a Mexican child who came across the border for treatment."

The media is having a field day over this, and to be quite frank, you're doing a rather good job of proving that their scare tactics work.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 4:43 pm on May 4, 2009

Quote: from TheatreMinelli at 11:36 am on May 4, 2009

Well the British media certainly have not reported it falsley all media outlets over here have stressed the fact that it was a mexican child.

 Recently I have compared the US medias coverage to the UKs and I have come to the conclusion that the US media is ridiculous.


I never said that they reported it falsely. I said it was misleading. Most media outlets I've seen have had the big splashy headline of "FIRST DEATH FROM SWINE FLU IN THE US" (which, sadly, is the most a lot of people will read) and then mention later in the article "...was a Mexican child who came across the border for treatment."

The media is having a field day over this, and to be quite frank, you're doing a rather good job of proving that their scare tactics work.


I'm not getting my information from the media.

and as I said no headlines have read anything close to that in the UK. Most likely something like 'Mexican child dies of flu in US'



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