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How important is your racial identity to you? Researchers long thought it wasn't that crucial to whites. But a groundbreaking new study on whiteness and race relations by University of Minnesota sociologists shows that whites in the U.S. are far more conscious of being white--and the privileges it brings--than was believed.

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The survey is packed with fascinating findings, some surprising (a stunning proportion of whites--77%--say their race has a distinct culture that should be preserved) and some less so (whites view their role in the social hierarchy more benignly than blacks and Hispanics do). Whites are more likely to say prejudice and discrimination put blacks at a disadvantage than to say those factors contribute to white advantage. And they are much less likely than nonwhites to attribute inequality to bias in the legal system.

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What to make of all this? Though whites in the U.S. believe there remain advantages to being white, they don't necessarily link those advantages with blacks' disadvantages. This hinders racial reconciliation, says co-author Douglas Hartmann: "Whites have invented subtle ways to convince themselves that race isn't a problem in America." Blacks do see more racism in society than whites but, contrary to stereotype, seem disinclined to blame the system for their disadvantage. In fact, they are more likely to attribute it to individual causes like a lack of hard work--77% did so, compared with 62% of whites. "We think of U.S. minorities as less engaged in American individualism," Hartmann says, "but they are maybe more so."

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What to make of all this? Though whites in the U.S. believe there remain advantages to being white, they don't necessarily link those advantages with blacks' disadvantages. This hinders racial reconciliation, says co-author Douglas Hartmann: "Whites have invented subtle ways to convince themselves that race isn't a problem in America." Blacks do see more racism in society than whites but, contrary to stereotype, seem disinclined to blame the system for their disadvantage. In fact, they are more likely to attribute it to individual causes like a lack of hard work--77% did so, compared with 62% of whites. "We think of U.S. minorities as less engaged in American individualism," Hartmann says, "but they are maybe more so."

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what are these so called subtle ways?

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So?

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did six million really die kidd rune

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If so - I don't think so.

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"Every Jew, somewhere in his being, should set apart a zone of
hate -- healthy, virile hate -- for what the German personifies
and for what persists in the German. To do otherwise would be
a betrayal of the dead." - Elie Wiesel

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what are these so called subtle ways?

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Quote: from SovSull at 2:12 pm on Nov. 16, 2008

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did six million really die kidd rune

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Are you asking "Did six million Jews die under the Third Reich?"

If so - I don't think so.

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lol

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Quote: from SovSull at 2:12 pm on Nov. 16, 2008

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did six million really die kidd rune

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Are you asking "Did six million Jews die under the Third Reich?"

If so - I don't think so.

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Yo have got to be kidding me.  Talk to the survivors of the Holocaust.  Ask them where their families went, why they never came back.

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Yo have got to be kidding me.

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Talk to the survivors of the Holocaust.

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But how sure can you be that they didn't lie?

There are PLENTY of people that survived and say it didn't happen - the only difference is that they are either dead or in jail.

It's ILLEGAL to say it didn't happen in pretty much every European country.

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Ask them where their families went, why they never came back.

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Yo have got to be kidding me.

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Nope.

 

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Talk to the survivors of the Holocaust.

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I have. One of them, who wrote "Four perfect pebbles," came to our school.

But how sure can you be that they didn't lie?

There are PLENTY of people that survived and say it didn't happen - the only difference is that they are either dead or in jail.

It's ILLEGAL to say it didn't happen in pretty much every European country.

 

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Ask them where their families went, why they never came back.

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I would if I could be sure that they knew - and that they weren't lying.

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How do you know the people who say it didn't happen aren't lying?  Reminder these are the same people who had a vision of world domination and cleansing of the people.

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a stunning proportion of whites--77%--say their race has a distinct culture that should be preserved

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Whites have invented subtle ways to convince themselves that race isn't a problem in America

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Yo have got to be kidding me.

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Nope.

 

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Talk to the survivors of the Holocaust.

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I have. One of them, who wrote "Four perfect pebbles," came to our school.

But how sure can you be that they didn't lie?

There are PLENTY of people that survived and say it didn't happen - the only difference is that they are either dead or in jail.

It's ILLEGAL to say it didn't happen in pretty much every European country.

 

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Ask them where their families went, why they never came back.

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I would if I could be sure that they knew - and that they weren't lying.

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We saw the videos of the liberated concentration camps! We have the diary of Anne Frank, we have the fact that millions of Jews fled from Europe, we have the fact that millions of Jews mysteriously disappeared off the face off the earth.

You go preach your fucking lies to people who had family die in that atrocity and see how they like it!

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dont wonder why im not smiling, wonder why you are.