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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:57 am on Nov. 18, 2008


But, again, I get the impression that you are arguing that there should be a one race only nations only because you want to preserve them, in something that looks like a giant museum (or more like a zoo) project. I just don't think there should be a nation that is based on looks of people. Because I am not convinced that there is a significant difference in any other fields, except from the looks.
Then I encourage you to read.  
http://tinyurl.com/6ceqc5" target="_top">http://http://tinyurl.com/6ceqc5  
or the PDF version:  
http://www.mediafire.com/?fmjgjvajrzz" target="_top">http://http://www.mediafire.com/?fmjgjvajrzz  

And the whole "Skin color" fallacy I'm sure is very comforting to the Jews suffering from Tay-Sachs disease, to Blacks enduring sickle cell anemia, and to Amerinds battling alcoholism. Because, as you know, that's all due to skin!  


Are you a Christian? Well, if so, I can put it this way for you:  
If you think that humans should mix up because they're all just "Humans" - you're mistaken.  

I see evolution and look at it as beauty. I do not believe none of these differences are "Human formed" and "not sacred" - as that is the train of thought of a communist, something I am highly opposed to.  

When I see the variation among human races, I see the brush strokes of evolution, God, or whatever you wish to believe.
Every layer of paint, each a different color, coming together to form a beautiful painting that has been created for us, our children, our grand children, and their grand children to adore, love, and view for generations to come.
It's a big, beautiful picture - with all of the history, events, and characteristics that create what we refer to as "Earth."  

If God/evolution/both created this magnificent, colorful, diverse world - why would he want it all to intermix?  

If God/evolution/both created Black and White - wouldn't there be a REASON to have Black and White?  
If there was no purpose for the differences and separations between races, would there be any purpose for them to exist?  

Many people call me "Racist, ignorant, and arrogant" for wanting Whites to exist - but taking all that is so firmly founded over so many years and turning it on it's head in only a small time, for no apparent benefit or reason, strikes ME as ignorant and arrogant.  

Why take a beautiful, colorful painting and replace it with one color, smudged indefinitely around creating what is far from a masterpiece?  



Also, where would you put that nation? Earth is already crowded. So unless you want to move to Antarctica, I don't see a reasonable non-violent way of establishing such a nation.
Whites evolved in Europe and the surrounding area.  

Just because other people live in a nation doesn't mean the only way for them to leave is violently.  

You can kindly ask them to leave, pay them to get going, etc.


Personally, I find your view of the world way over romanticized. First of all, I'm not Christian. I am non-religious. Evolution didn't 'try' to make world beautiful. It looks beautiful because your mind is used to it.
As for the reason for different races - Earth is not homogeneous. Different environments bring different conditions. If you live generation after generation in a desert, you surely won't have a same tan as someone who lives somewhere where it is a lot colder. And also for the other differences - those racial groups lived separated from each other for a long time. So they surely cannot be completely same.
Also, you still haven't convinced me that there is significant reason for anything to be done about that. In the real world, there is no place for utopias. There are a lot more important things to do in our short lives than being obsessed with skin color (and what goes with it). Also, one of the reasons you name is that different races are 'beautiful'. But, yet again, they are beautiful because your mind says so. In fact, they are just composed of a slightly different mix of molecules or whatever.
'Ask them to leave?' You seriously believe that that would work?? Even paying people to leave wouldn't work, at least not on a large scale. And what would you do then? If you want a one race nation, you cannot ignore those other people. So, you'd have to forcefully evict them. Or even worse, make them 'disappear from the world'. So in the real world, I don't see a non-violent way to make a one race state. Nor I see significant reason for that. Races have nothing to do with nature being 'artistic', they are just results of different living conditions. So, I guess there is no place for your utopia, at least in this world.

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I see no reason to keep scum in the nations that are doing well. Such as the crack dealers, robbers, or any other miscreant that ends up with a criminal record. The world should have a country just for them. Entry to that country should mean that there are no passports to any other country and they can kill each other for the resources they need instead of killing people here for the hell of it. Not just any one race but anyone who decides to break the law past a few minor traffic violations.

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Quote: from Chava at 3:20 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

I see no reason to keep scum in the nations that are doing well. Such as the crack dealers, robbers, or any other miscreant that ends up with a criminal record. The world should have a country just for them. Entry to that country should mean that there are no passports to any other country and they can kill each other for the resources they need instead of killing people here for the hell of it. Not just any one race but anyone who decides to break the law past a few minor traffic violations.

You think that they are happy being criminals? It is poverty that leads them into criminal. And guess what is the reason of poverty: class system. So, I doubt that there can ever be a crime-less state, because there will probably always be poor and rich people. Unless all of the population was somehow brainwashed.

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Nazi Fagots are Nazi Fagots. They can go to atlantis. We can round all of the Nazi Fagots up, and dump them in the ocean. Them floating in the ocean stranded, would make everyone happy.
Well, it all matters about what you think a "Nazi Fagot" is.


Personally, I find your view of the world way over romanticized. First of all, I'm not Christian. I am non-religious. Evolution didn't 'try' to make world beautiful. It looks beautiful because your mind is used to it.
As for the reason for different races - Earth is not homogeneous. Different environments bring different conditions. If you live generation after generation in a desert, you surely won't have a same tan as someone who lives somewhere where it is a lot colder. And also for the other differences - those racial groups lived separated from each other for a long time. So they surely cannot be completely same.

More proof that differences exist.



Also, you still haven't convinced me that there is significant reason for anything to be done about that. In the real world, there is no place for utopias. There are a lot more important things to do in our short lives than being obsessed with skin color (and what goes with it). Also, one of the reasons you name is that different races are 'beautiful'. But, yet again, they are beautiful because your mind says so. In fact, they are just composed of a slightly different mix of molecules or whatever.
Please, refrain from using the term "Skin color" as race. It minimizies or trivializes the many unique traits and characteristics of each individual race by arbitrarily restricting reference to only a few traits - in this instance skin color.

And who said anything about a Utopia? I sure as hell didn't.

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The White race is unique, beautiful, and different - as all races are. Destruction of this - by mixing, killing, or any other way - is genocide.
But, you don't miss things until you no longer have it.

People claim the conquistadors slaughtered all the Aztecs and destroyed their "Beautiful" culture. I'm not going to go into history, and I'll use this claim as an example.

The Spanish Conquistadors, people claim, destroyed all of the Aztec paintings, sculputures, beauty, customs, etc.

Nowadays, people claim that the Spanish that did that were "Evil," and shouldn't have done that.

According to them, they destroyed a people and culture - how can you call something similar to that good?

Who cares how it's done - through war, battle, mixing, disease, etc - it SHOULD BE STOPPED.

You may not value or care for the races of human - but I do - and your silly ideas belittling the importance and beauty of them will not deter me.


If you thinks Whites (or any people) and their race and culture is not unique - then I have little to no hope for you.
That's the ideals of a communist - to think that nothing of individuality matters.


'Ask them to leave?' You seriously believe that that would work?? Even paying people to leave wouldn't work, at least not on a large scale. And what would you do then? If you want a one race nation, you cannot ignore those other people. So, you'd have to forcefully evict them. Or even worse, make them 'disappear from the world'. So in the real world, I don't see a non-violent way to make a one race state. Nor I see significant reason for that. Races have nothing to do with nature being 'artistic', they are just results of different living conditions. So, I guess there is no place for your utopia, at least in this world.
Well, they should leave. I would definitely leave a place I was not a part of - to have a land for myself to be with my people. I am not a selfish bastard that doesn't care about the many different people of the world.

And where do you get this "Utopia" idea? I did not claim one existed - or will ever exist.


And, yes, races did evolve to fit their climate - so what? That is still differences, no matter how they were created, and unique, beautiful(even if you can't see it), and should be preserved.

Once it's gone - it can never come back.


I see no reason to keep scum in the nations that are doing well. Such as the crack dealers, robbers, or any other miscreant that ends up with a criminal record. The world should have a country just for them. Entry to that country should mean that there are no passports to any other country and they can kill each other for the resources they need instead of killing people here for the hell of it. Not just any one race but anyone who decides to break the law past a few minor traffic violations.
That has already been tried - Austrailia.

The Europeans would also sometimes take the criminals in the Americas and dump them on one island - I don't remember which though.



You think that they are happy being criminals? It is poverty that leads them into criminal. And guess what is the reason of poverty: class system. So, I doubt that there can ever be a crime-less state, because there will probably always be poor and rich people.
There have been quite a few studies that have linked genetics to crime.
http://www.enotes.com/crime-criminals-article/genetics-may-influence-criminal-behavior" target="_top">http://http://www.enotes.com/crime-criminals-article/genetics-may-influence-criminal-behavior
http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA93&id=2tehE36CziMC&output=html" target="_top">http://http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA93&id=2tehE36CziMC&output=html
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Born-Crime-Behaviour-Contributions-Criminology/dp/0313241724" target="_top">http://http://www.amazon.co.uk/Born-Crime-Behaviour-Contributions-Criminology/dp/0313241724
http://library.thinkquest.org/26750/gen.htm" target="_top">http://http://library.thinkquest.org/26750/gen.htm

That's a few links but some information.
But, nobody is denying that there are factors in their community and poverty - but genetics is a cause many times too.

And poverty can be caused due to being unintelligent - another thing genetics can influence.

So, really, your genetics could be a reason WHY you're poor.



Unless all of the population was somehow brainwashed.
Or their culture is pushing them to strive.

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And, yes, races did evolve to fit their climate - so what? That is still differences, no matter how they were created, and unique, beautiful(even if you can't see it), and should be preserved.
Is the black race unique and beautiful and should it be "preserved"?  

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Quote: from kidd rune at 4:55 pm on Nov. 16, 2008


For your information WN douchebag,.there are plenty of interracial couples that have "white looking children".
What's your point?
Are they almost 100% White? Do they believe that Whites should remain in existence? Would they fight for their race? Would they have kids outside of their race?

And what do you call "White looking?"
Just the skin?


For you to say that the white race is going to die just shows how insecure you are.
You denying it shows how retarded YOU are.

Whites are DYING OUT! They used to be 33% of the population, a few years ago they were 12%, and the last study showed 8% - but it's probably 7 now. In 10 years, it'll be even lower - until Whites are less than 1%, then until they are 0%.


And these mixed children are accepted within the white community as well as the other races they belong.
What's your point?


Ex) that actress rashida jones. And that mixed looking guy from prison break.
Rashida Jones doesn't look White at all!

And what "Mixed looking guy" are you speaking of? Name or images please.


Why do you speak on behalf of your race? Maybe there are some white people that are happy getting along with other races.
I'm happy and get along with otehr races.

I just think that my race shouldn't die out. What's wrong with that?


Your just a racist douchebag who's bitter b/c non whites have jobs and your scraping money off your couch to buy a burger.
Not really. I want Whites to continue to live forever.

lmao

Your complaining about the percentage of white population?
The jewish world population is .02%.



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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:48 pm on Nov. 18, 2008


Nazi Fagots are Nazi Fagots. They can go to atlantis. We can round all of the Nazi Fagots up, and dump them in the ocean. Them floating in the ocean stranded, would make everyone happy.
Well, it all matters about what you think a "Nazi Fagot" is.  


Personally, I find your view of the world way over romanticized. First of all, I'm not Christian. I am non-religious. Evolution didn't 'try' to make world beautiful. It looks beautiful because your mind is used to it.  
As for the reason for different races - Earth is not homogeneous. Different environments bring different conditions. If you live generation after generation in a desert, you surely won't have a same tan as someone who lives somewhere where it is a lot colder. And also for the other differences - those racial groups lived separated from each other for a long time. So they surely cannot be completely same.

More proof that differences exist.  

 


Also, you still haven't convinced me that there is significant reason for anything to be done about that. In the real world, there is no place for utopias. There are a lot more important things to do in our short lives than being obsessed with skin color (and what goes with it). Also, one of the reasons you name is that different races are 'beautiful'. But, yet again, they are beautiful because your mind says so. In fact, they are just composed of a slightly different mix of molecules or whatever.
Please, refrain from using the term "Skin color" as race. It minimizies or trivializes the many unique traits and characteristics of each individual race by arbitrarily restricting reference to only a few traits - in this instance skin color.  

And who said anything about a Utopia? I sure as hell didn't.  

And you should check this out:


To say something matters is to say that it is important and has value. To say something does not matter is to say it is of no importance or value. To say something is the only thing that matters is to say that all else is without importance or value. I act on the presumption that everything that exits -- every part of Creation -- matters, that it has importance and value, and that it is both improper and nihilistic to presume otherwise. This importance and value can be regarded as objective, based on its position and role in Creation, or subjective, based on the sentiments of those who love it, by which standard anything that matters or is important to anyone, that is loved or valued by anyone, is regarded as valuable and important.
 

 
The White race is unique, beautiful, and different - as all races are. Destruction of this - by mixing, killing, or any other way - is genocide.  
But, you don't miss things until you no longer have it.  

People claim the conquistadors slaughtered all the Aztecs and destroyed their "Beautiful" culture. I'm not going to go into history, and I'll use this claim as an example.  

The Spanish Conquistadors, people claim, destroyed all of the Aztec paintings, sculputures, beauty, customs, etc.  

Nowadays, people claim that the Spanish that did that were "Evil," and shouldn't have done that.  

According to them, they destroyed a people and culture - how can you call something similar to that good?  

Who cares how it's done - through war, battle, mixing, disease, etc - it SHOULD BE STOPPED.  

You may not value or care for the races of human - but I do - and your silly ideas belittling the importance and beauty of them will not deter me.  

 
If you thinks Whites (or any people) and their race and culture is not unique - then I have little to no hope for you.  
That's the ideals of a communist - to think that nothing of individuality matters.  


 
'Ask them to leave?' You seriously believe that that would work?? Even paying people to leave wouldn't work, at least not on a large scale. And what would you do then? If you want a one race nation, you cannot ignore those other people. So, you'd have to forcefully evict them. Or even worse, make them 'disappear from the world'. So in the real world, I don't see a non-violent way to make a one race state. Nor I see significant reason for that. Races have nothing to do with nature being 'artistic', they are just results of different living conditions. So, I guess there is no place for your utopia, at least in this world.

Well, they should leave. I would definitely leave a place I was not a part of - to have a land for myself to be with my people. I am not a selfish bastard that doesn't care about the many different people of the world.  

And where do you get this "Utopia" idea? I did not claim one existed - or will ever exist.  

 
And, yes, races did evolve to fit their climate - so what? That is still differences, no matter how they were created, and unique, beautiful(even if you can't see it), and should be preserved.  

Once it's gone - it can never come back.  


I see no reason to keep scum in the nations that are doing well. Such as the crack dealers, robbers, or any other miscreant that ends up with a criminal record. The world should have a country just for them. Entry to that country should mean that there are no passports to any other country and they can kill each other for the resources they need instead of killing people here for the hell of it. Not just any one race but anyone who decides to break the law past a few minor traffic violations.
That has already been tried - Austrailia.  

The Europeans would also sometimes take the criminals in the Americas and dump them on one island - I don't remember which though.  

 


You think that they are happy being criminals? It is poverty that leads them into criminal. And guess what is the reason of poverty: class system. So, I doubt that there can ever be a crime-less state, because there will probably always be poor and rich people.
There have been quite a few studies that have linked genetics to crime.  
http://www.enotes.com/crime-criminals-article/genetics-may-influence-criminal-behavior" target="_top">http://http://www.enotes.com/crime-criminals-article/genetics-may-influence-criminal-behavior  
http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA93&id=2tehE36CziMC&output=html" target="_top">http://http://books.google.com/books?pg=PA93&id=2tehE36CziMC&output=html  
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Born-Crime-Behaviour-Contributions-Criminology/dp/0313241724" target="_top">http://http://www.amazon.co.uk/Born-Crime-Behaviour-Contributions-Criminology/dp/0313241724  
http://library.thinkquest.org/26750/gen.htm" target="_top">http://http://library.thinkquest.org/26750/gen.htm  

That's a few links but some information.  
But, nobody is denying that there are factors in their community and poverty - but genetics is a cause many times too.  

And poverty can be caused due to being unintelligent - another thing genetics can influence.  

So, really, your genetics could be a reason WHY you're poor.  

 


Unless all of the population was somehow brainwashed.
Or their culture is pushing them to strive.

On the part where you quoted me:
I see that there is no point in arguing anymore. You think that race is a significant difference, and that it should be a political factor, and I disagree with your views. The end.
But about the white state you were talking about: What makes you think that you can peacefully evict millions of people? There will always be people that don't want to leave. And what would you do about them?
Anyway, who gives you the right to choose who is allowed to live in a certain area, and who is not??

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Is the black race unique and beautiful and should it be "preserved"?
Blacks should preserve their race, yes, but it's pretty plentiful as it is.

The main problem killing them is hunger/AIDS in my opinion.


lmao

Your complaining about the percentage of white population?
The jewish world population is .02%.


Yes, but Jews tend to stay inside of their race/people/religion more than Whites - and you KNOW that's true.

And you have Israel.


But about the white state you were talking about: What makes you think that you can peacefully evict millions of people?
What makes you think that you can destroy the beauty of a race and not think it wrong?

I hope that we can create a nation in Europe with the smallest amount of nonWhites.

But, then agian, Israel didn't push the palestanians out too peacefully.

My thought is that the nation would deny citizenship to nonWhites. Anyone that isn't White couldn't do anything - and the government would try to help them leave.

They really should leave themselves though, it's the right thing to do.


There will always be people that don't want to leave. And what would you do about them?
Well, they wouldn't be a part of the nation - correct?

Deny all citizenship, rights, and services.

They can't do anything, they can leave.

Though we'd help them leave as much as possible so they don't feel they were pushed out.


Anyway, who gives you the right to choose who is allowed to live in a certain area, and who is not??


Indigenous peoples and individuals have the right not to be subjected to forced assimilation or destruction of their culture.

States shall provide effective mechanisms for prevention of, and redress
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Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their
lands, territories or resources;

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What makes you think that you can destroy the beauty of a race and not think it wrong?

If you want to preserve your race, then just don't procreate with other races. Everyone happy? Using your argument, I could just as well say that there should be a single religion country, because other religions are ruining the culture of the main religion. Or anything else. I am not destroying it. If you want to preserve it, find a group of same-minded people and agree not to procreate with outsiders. Simple as that.


But, then agian, Israel didn't push the palestanians out too peacefully.

When did I mention Israel?


My thought is that the nation would deny citizenship to nonWhites. Anyone that isn't White couldn't do anything - and the government would try to help them leave.

As I already said, who gives you the right to choose who can stay and who must leave?? That is illegal.


Indigenous peoples and individuals have the right not to be subjected to forced assimilation or destruction of their culture.

No one is forcing you to assimilate. And as far as the culture goes: just the fact that someone is of other race doesn't mean that he cannot be a part of your culture. You could have people of different races as a part of one culture.


States shall provide effective mechanisms for prevention of, and redress
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Who is dispossessing who? Are you trying to say that other races are somehow stealing from you? Or what?

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If you want to preserve your race, then just don't procreate with other races. Everyone happy? Using your argument, I could just as well say that there should be a single religion country, because other religions are ruining the culture of the main religion. Or anything else. I am not destroying it. If you want to preserve it, find a group of same-minded people and agree not to procreate with outsiders. Simple as that.
Yes, but culture can be overtaken and they can be unable to successfully practice it.

And if there are no Whites around - how are they going to find one to have kids with?

Maybe people want to live with others LIKE them also.


When did I mention Israel?
It already exists for the Jewish people - are you strongly opposed to it? It was created as a "national home for the Jewish people."
Why not have a "National home for Whites"?



As I already said, who gives you the right to choose who can stay and who must leave?? That is illegal.
Well, usually people don't like it when you walk in their house and sit there.

For it to be "Illegal" it has to be against the laws of the country. The fact that they are not a citizen makes THEM illegally there.

They have the rest of the world to live in! It's not much to ask for a little plot of land!


No one is forcing you to assimilate.
Umm, English is becoming a secondary language in my area. In a few years, I won't be able to speak to almost anyone without learning Spanish - which is forced assimilation.

They are FORCING me to become more like them, in more than just language.


And as far as the culture goes: just the fact that someone is of other race doesn't mean that he cannot be a part of your culture. You could have people of different races as a part of one culture.
But people many times don't change their culture - and people of other races can't be a part of your race to help preserve it.


Who is dispossessing who? Are you trying to say that other races are somehow stealing from you? Or what?
Whites are losing their lands.
Central Florida, where I grew up, is over 70% Latin American here, many illegals.


"Whites will be an ethnic minority in Britain by the end of the century... It would be the first time in history that a major indigenous population has voluntarily become a minority, rather than through war, famine or disease."
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"Yes, but Jews tend to stay inside of their race/people/religion more than Whites - and you KNOW that's true.
And you have Israel."


Its really not actually.
You don't have any idea how many secular jews there are that marry outside the religion.
I can name at least 5 or 6 that I know off the top of my head. Especially since my dad is a convert from Roman Catholicism.
Israel isn't a jewish state. It is a state that jews can reside in.
There is a difference. They never have and never will kick other races out of israel.

"But, then agian, Israel didn't push the palestanians out too peacefully."

Damn right.
You know why?
Because Israel never forced the palestinians out of israel.
Read up on your middle eastern history.


"And if there are no Whites around - how are they going to find one to have kids with?"

lol.
You realize that that has not happened right?
Whites are still a major ethnic group.
There are really not as few as you would like to believe.
If they are 30% of the world, then that is millions of people.

"It already exists for the Jewish people - are you strongly opposed to it? It was created as a "national home for the Jewish people." "

It was created as a safe place for jews who wanted it.
Unlike your belief, it was not made exclusively for jews.
There are many many other groups of people living in israel.

"They are FORCING me to become more like them, in more than just language."

Its funny how if you saw this happening to another race, you probably wouldn't say anything to help them.

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Its really not actually.  
You don't have any idea how many secular jews there are that marry outside the religion.  
I can name at least 5 or 6 that I know off the top of my head. Especially since my dad is a convert from Roman Catholicism.  
Israel isn't a jewish state. It is a state that jews can reside in.  
There is a difference. They never have and never will kick other races out of israel.

Israel was created FOR Jews though.
It's moreso understood to be for Jews - which is why they don't get mass immigration from others.


Damn right.  
You know why?  
Because Israel never forced the palestinians out of israel.  
Read up on your middle eastern history.

They don't treat them all that well either - and haven't historically.


lol.  
You realize that that has not happened right?  
Whites are still a major ethnic group.  
There are really not as few as you would like to believe.  
If they are 30% of the world, then that is millions of people.

They're less than 8% and falling rapidly.


It was created as a safe place for jews who wanted it.  
Unlike your belief, it was not made exclusively for jews.  
There are many many other groups of people living in israel.

Well, there needs to be a place where Whites can live and not be exploited.
Whites should pay taxes that equal what gets payed back to Whites.
A White nation is the only way to do this. If that doesn't happen - one race is mooching off of another.


Its funny how if you saw this happening to another race, you probably wouldn't say anything to help them.
Assumption?
You have no proof.

I have said before that I support a nation for Amerinds - and don't want their culture and race to be mixed out.

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Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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"Israel was created FOR Jews though.
It's moreso understood to be for Jews - which is why they don't get mass immigration from others."

No. It was created to be a place for jews to come if they desired to.
Its not a country just for jews.
Like I said there are MANY non-jews in israel.

"which is why they don't get mass immigration from others."

Proof?
They do get immigrants from russia, and eastern europe.

"They don't treat them all that well either - and haven't historically."

1) Either? What was the first point?

2) "And haven't historically"
lol

Israel has only existed 60 years.

3) The palestinians haven't treated the israelis so well. You tend to not be friendly to people who launch rockets at schools and places of worship.

"They're less than 8% and falling rapidly."

Its still millions of people!

It doesn't necessarily mean that there are less whites than before, just that other races are reproducing more.
Also, do I have to point out to you that the jewish people are .02%?!
8% is A LOT.


"Well, there needs to be a place where Whites can live and not be exploited.
Whites should pay taxes that equal what gets payed back to Whites.
A White nation is the only way to do this. If that doesn't happen - one race is mooching off of another."


How are whites exploited?

"Whites should pay taxes that equal what gets payed back to Whites. "

What do you mean?

"one race is mooching off of another."

You mean the way all of those poor white people in the middle of the country mooch off the government?

"Assumption?
You have no proof.
I have said before that I support a nation for Amerinds - and don't want their culture and race to be mixed out."

But you wouldn't would you?
have you ever advocated for anyones rights other than your race's?

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No. It was created to be a place for jews to come if they desired to.
Its not a country just for jews.
Like I said there are MANY non-jews in israel.


Sure there are.
But the League of Nations approved the British Mandate of Palestine with the intent of creating a "national home for the Jewish people.


Proof?
They do get immigrants from russia, and eastern europe.

That doesn't make them nonJews.


1) Either? What was the first point?

2) "And haven't historically"
lol

Israel has only existed 60 years.

3) The palestinians haven't treated the israelis so well. You tend to not be friendly to people who launch rockets at schools and places of worship.


1.The first point was in my other post.
2. Yeah, that's still a bit of history.
3. Jews have killed many Whites - take communism for example. Kaganovich killed 7-10 million Ukrainians. Whites still love Jews so much!


Its still millions of people!

It doesn't necessarily mean that there are less whites than before, just that other races are reproducing more.
Also, do I have to point out to you that the jewish people are .02%?!
8% is A LOT.


Well, I reccommend you fix your Jewish problem - oh, wait, don't you want all cultures and people to mix into one big blob? Disgusting!

And White populations have been falling slightly in the past years - yet are falling more rapidly today.

They are becoming minorities in their own countries.

That's not good. In 70 years, Europe will be 50% nonWhite.


What do you mean?
Whites pay let's say, 70% of taxes - they should be benefitted by 70% of them.


You mean the way all of those poor white people in the middle of the country mooch off the government?
Yes, but it's not proportional.

Check the welfare statistics. Whites aren't 66% of Welfare in the USA - which would be required for equality moneywise.


But you wouldn't would you?
have you ever advocated for anyones rights other than your race's?

I've never outright advocated them - nor have I really for White rights - but I'd be the first to support an all-Black, all-Mestizo, all-Jewish, all-Amerind, etc nation.

I think it's great.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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