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77% of Whites think they must be preserved
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What's a Nazi Fagot? Keltic fighter is a Nazi Fagot, as are you kidd rune.

Any Nazi, neo or non is a Nazi Fagot. White Supremacists are Nazi Fagots. White Nationalists are Nazi Fagots. Members of the KKK are Nazi Fagots.

That's not to say there aren't other cultures that have racists. They just aren't Nazi Fagots.


What does one have to believe to be a "Nazi Fagot"?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:00 pm on Nov. 20, 2008


lol  

You don't know anything about Israel's history.  
The british didn't support israel at all.  
In fact they regulated immigration to israel, and dumped most of the jews in israel into holding camps, which look remarkably like nazi work camps.  
The rest of the jews they kept in places like cyprus for years and years.  

The british mandate meant nothing.  
They wanted to give the jewish people state after WW1 because the british jewish population helped fight against the turks.  

http://www.planetware.com/i/map/ISR/british-mandate-1921-22-and-proposed-partition-1947-map.jpg  

They were originally going to give this plot of land, which happens to include all of jordan. After WW2 they lost British support.  

Zionists rebelled against the british, and declared themselves a country without anyone's previous support.  
The USA openly supported them AFTER they were declared an independent country.  

The league of nations resolution was never fulfilled.


Lol Jews.
Should've taken Madagascar when offered.


Yet its funny how so many of them are non-jews.
Why doesn't your country stop that?


You mean the one I told you WASN'T TRUE ON ANY TERMS?
Sure, why not.

But you can't truthfully say the Israelis were oh-so-kind to the palestinians.

 


Its funny how Russia was one of those countries which headed pogroms against the jews.  

http://www.pbs.org/destinationamerica/usim_wn_noflash_6.html  

It wasn't a jewish massacure against other people.  
It was one leaders attack against other people.  

If you can find me one thing that Kaganovich did FOR THE JEWS then I will read it.  

You just like saying HE'S JEWISH HE'S JEWISH.  
How do you know that was any kind of factor?  

He is a very vague topic to discuss.


Russia had anti-Jewish programs due to them being pissed off when Jews communist-raped their country.

What did Kaganovich do FOR Jews? Well, he isn't really famous for anything but the death of 7-10million NON JEWISH Ukrainians.


lmao  

And where do you get that "fact"?


Well, it would be ignorant to say that (non hispanic) Whites, being 66% of the population, get 66% of the money in welfare/food stamps/etc - when Whites are least likely of any race to get those government "Helpers."


But would you go openly support rights for another race of people?
Which rights? The rights to existence - yes. The rights to get jobs, college, and money BECAUSE of their race - hell no!


But is it unique and beautiful?
Sure, why not?


Do you really mean  
 
"It depends"  
or  
"it matters"?  

They are not the same thing. You seem to use "it matters" in the wrong way all the time.  

It matters = It is important  

Most of the time the way you use it it is a complete non sequitur.


Well, he still needs to tell me what he thinks a "Nazi Fagot" is.


Rich people pay 90% of the tax so it should benefit 90% of rich people?
If they pay 90% of the taxes - 90% of tax money should benefit them, yes (or in proportion to what they pay).

But, in my opinion, everyone should pay taxes - or trying to get a job.

If they don't - they shouldn't get any of the benefits.

When the rich throw all of their money in a pot and it gets distributed evenly (or moreso towards the poor) you are practicing communism.

 


No one is preventing you from practicing your culture - Jews have preserved theirs for thousands of years, even though they were a minority everywhere they went.

 


And who said there will be no whites? There is at least a billion of white people on this planet at the moment. That is a long way to go from extinction.
Insanity! There are not 1 billion Whites on this Earth - less than 8% of the population is White - and falling drastically.

Your one billion claim shows how little people know of this epidemic.

What about Nordics? Alpines? Meds? Baltics? Dinarics?

They're all subraces of the White race - and they are different too. They should also be preserved, Mediteranneans are almost extinct as it is.


Other people can live in Israel too.
Well then, they should fix that if they want an all-Jewish nation.

They don't? Well, their loss. Surprisingly, Jews are a very small amount of the world.

The difference is, one parent can be Jewish and the other not - and a Jewish child can come out. This isn't the same among races. One White parent can't create a White child - both must be White.


Oh great. Then get the f*ck out from Native American lands. And don't bother coming to Europe. That is Gallic and Roman territory. Roll back to Caucasus and India if you want.  
What I'm trying to say that humans naturally migrate. And no one is stopping them from doing it. Back in the time USA was encouraging immigration. 'American dream'??  
And who are you to claim it as 'your' house?

Europe isn't for Whites? I'm surprised!

India is home to Veddoid/Dravidic/Indic people - none of Which I am.

The Natural populations of Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Iceland, Britain, Wales, and the Netherlands are 100% Nordic.

Belgium follows with 95% Nordic and 5% Alpine, Luxembourg with 80% Alpine and 20% Nordic/Borreby. Germany is 80% Nordic with mixed Alpine and Dinaric.

There are many more, but these above countries have historically been White, and many being purely Nordic.

And Caucasians may have been the first Americans. Look up the Spirit Cave Mummy and Kennewick man.

Also, tell me what the Romans were - if they weren't White.

And who said I was speaking of the USA? Even though Whites bought off a lot of the land and traded much of it - the USA is a lost cause in my opinion - even though North America holds about 40% of the Nordic population, yet only held about 6% of the Amerind population when the Europeans arrived. (most of them resided in, and still reside in, South and Central America).


No one is forcing you. You can always leave, remember?
Where am I going to go with only Whites?


No one is preventing you from preserving your culture. Just as I pointed out with the Jewish example.
They are. If I can't get around with English - I have to learn Spanish.

That is a cultural change right there - and not the only one.

And what about race? People are stopping me from racial preservation.


Natural migrations. If you don't want to disappear, then procreate more.  

I don't see any point in prolonging this argument. Unless you want to say something, I guess there is nothing left to talk about here.


I believe that Whites should be taught to not be afraid to stay in their race.
Whites shouldn't be taught as the people that are always racist.

Whites should be able to speak of race without saying "I'm not racist but..." before they speak.


"Lol Jews.
Should've taken Madagascar when offered. "

I love how you are such an ignorant ass.
Can't you tell?

I also love the fact that you don't know anything about history and Completely ignored all the facts I shoved into your face.
I am not likely to forget that one soon.

"Why doesn't your country stop that? "

Because we are not racist or into complete race preservation.
We are also not into forcible segregation or destruction of other races to get what we want.
Sorry that jews don't follow the ideology Nazis do.

"Sure, why not. "

LMAO.
Your argument greatly lacks intelligence.
At least put up an argument or admit that you don't know what youa re talking about.

"But you can't truthfully say the Israelis were oh-so-kind to the palestinians. "

BUT I can truthfully say that no one forced the palestinians out.
Study actual history for a change.
You argument is filled with failure and lack of knowledge.
Good job.

I can also so FROM FACT that the only reason Israel was not kind to many palestinians is because the palestinians were not particularly tolerant of them.

Did you know that the plot of land for one of the main israeli cities, Tel Aviv, was bought from Palestinian landowners in Yafo?
The jews BOUGHT the land.
Remember in that other argument?
"Indian Giver"?

"Russia had anti-Jewish programs due to them being pissed off when Jews communist-raped their country. "

They were going on at the same exact time.
Your argument is YET AGAIN failure.


" What did Kaganovich do FOR Jews? Well, he isn't really famous for anything but the death of 7-10million NON JEWISH Ukrainians. "

You just said it right there. "Well, he isn't really famous for anything".

How much time did you spend looking for a reason?
There is none, and you admitted it.

Also, the jews had no reason to kill other peoples.
We had never been into genocide before, and we had no reason to start then.

Your argument is entirely based on speculation, nazi propaganda, and lack of facts.

You have lost this argument.
There is nothing to prove.

"Well, it would be ignorant to say that (non hispanic) Whites, being 66% of the population, get 66% of the money in welfare/food stamps/etc - when Whites are least likely of any race to get those government "Helpers." "

Let me ask you a relevant question.
Are you a humanitarian?
Do you care about the welfare of people you aren't associated with around you?

If not then I completely understand your opinion.

"Which rights? The rights to existence - yes. The rights to get jobs, college, and money BECAUSE of their race - hell no!

Yea? Really?

Have you ever been to a Darfur rally or anything of the sort?

Or do they not count?


"Sure, why not? "

I love how you don't actually put faith into your own words are how the words "why not" express it.

"Well, he still needs to tell me what he thinks a "Nazi Fagot" is. "

I LOVE how you refused t answer his question.

And I have never called someone a "nazi faggot" ironically.

" But, in my opinion, everyone should pay taxes - or trying to get a job.

If they don't - they shouldn't get any of the benefits.

When the rich throw all of their money in a pot and it gets distributed evenly (or moreso towards the poor) you are practicing communism. "

What world do you live in where you see rich people throwing "all of their money into a pot"?

I live in america too buddy. In a more capitalist area than you.
That is not a reality.

"and falling drastically. "

Are you really sure other cultures aren't just having more children?
You DO KNOW that many islamic families have over 5 children right?

You know that right?


" They're all subraces of the White race - and they are different too. They should also be preserved, Mediteranneans are almost extinct as it is. "

Then have more children.

"No one is preventing you from practicing your culture - Jews have preserved theirs for thousands of years, even though they were a minority everywhere they went."

I REALLY REALLY REALLY LOVE how you had no answer for what this person said.

Don't you love it?


"Well then, they should fix that if they want an all-Jewish nation.

They don't? Well, their loss. Surprisingly, Jews are a very small amount of the world.

The difference is, one parent can be Jewish and the other not - and a Jewish child can come out. This isn't the same among races. One White parent can't create a White child - both must be White. "

1) We don't want a purely jewish nation.

2) Yea we noticed we are a very small amount of the world.
  Isn't it horribly Ironic that the jews are not the ones complaining?

3) LMAO. Your a dumb-ass. If someone wants to have "all jewish blood"
they still need to have purely jewish parents. Pure blood genetics rules don't change between races. Get real. If your grandfather is black you are still considered white. Also, there are children who look 100% white, and have a black parent.
3) Most of your arguments this time have been completely blown out of the water.


" And Caucasians may have been the first Americans. Look up the Spirit Cave Mummy and Kennewick man. "

Lol at Vikings.
They cam and left.
I wouldn't consider them the first "americans" by far.
They discovered it, but they didn't take it as their home.

It is far from the same thing.

" Also, tell me what the Romans were - if they weren't White. "

As an example, many of them ended up being from the middle east and africa, after the Romans decided to conquer multiple Mediterranean countries.

"Where am I going to go with only Whites? "

You and the rest of the white nationalists /white supremacists can go live on the moon.

See what I did there?

"They are. If I can't get around with English - I have to learn Spanish. "

http://www.english-test.net/newsletter/the-world-speaks-english-23.html

"So, in total, 43 out of 100 people speak English worldwide and this number is growing by the hour."

Haha.
You fail. English is still one of the most spoken languages in the world today.

"And what about race? People are stopping me from racial preservation. "

No. They are not. Not having lots of children with other white people isn't our fault. Its the white people's. We can't have sex and children for you.

"believe that Whites should be taught to not be afraid to stay in their race.
Whites shouldn't be taught as the people that are always racist.

Whites should be able to speak of race without saying "I'm not racist but..." before they speak"

Schools don't teach race pride. To anyone.

Whites are not taught that as a people they are racist.
You hear what you want to hear, and see what you want to see.
Its due time that you open your eyes to reality.

First off, whites aren't the only ones who say that.
Second off, maybe if you didn't have something that sounded racist to say, then you wouldn't have to add that short clause before your sentence.



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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:37 pm on Nov. 21, 2008


Black population  
13 percent of the total population  
in 1999.  
13 percent of the total population  
in 2008  

Oooh great rate of growth


Good thing you're speaking of the USA only!

Here's the worldwide stats:
From 2010-2060, Blacks will increase their population by 1.2 billion, while Whites will actually shrink in number.


1) Where did you find this number?

Let me guess. A white pride website?

2) In 50 years a lot can change. Its not taking world factors into account.

2) Thats a very farfetched guess. That is considering everything stays the same in that amount of time. Which by the way is very unlikely.

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Quote: from carracer at 7:36 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

You hear what you want to hear, and see what you want to see.
Its due time that you open your eyes to reality.  

Lol that's gonna take a while. But hey miracles can happen!

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Quote: from jakelong at 7:46 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

Quote: from carracer at 7:36 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

You hear what you want to hear, and see what you want to see.  
 Its due time that you open your eyes to reality.

Lol that's gonna take a while. But hey miracles can happen!

There is going to be smoke coming out of his ears when he reads all of that.

I just hope that the fire in his mind doesn't burn through any intelligence and logic that he has left.

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LOl if you ask me he's already too far gone.

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I love how you are such an ignorant ass.
Can't you tell?

I also love the fact that you don't know anything about history and Completely ignored all the facts I shoved into your face.
I am not likely to forget that one soon.


Can you explain WHY, when Jews were denied citizenship and told to leave Germany, they didn't?



Because we are not racist or into complete race preservation.
We are also not into forcible segregation or destruction of other races to get what we want.
Sorry that jews don't follow the ideology Nazis do.

I DO NOT want race destruction at all - the EXACT OPPOSITE.

National Socialism is centered around one race - Jews were ORDERED to leave. They didn't.

It's not racist in the slightest bit.



LMAO.
Your argument greatly lacks intelligence.
At least put up an argument or admit that you don't know what youa re talking about.

I lol'd.
Go preach 6million to more people - it's very intelligently put forth.


BUT I can truthfully say that no one forced the palestinians out.
Study actual history for a change.
You argument is filled with failure and lack of knowledge.
Good job.

I can also so FROM FACT that the only reason Israel was not kind to many palestinians is because the palestinians were not particularly tolerant of them.

Did you know that the plot of land for one of the main israeli cities, Tel Aviv, was bought from Palestinian landowners in Yafo?
The jews BOUGHT the land.
Remember in that other argument?


I didn't say they forced them out - but, I did say, they weren't kind to them.

You admitted it.


They were going on at the same exact time.
Your argument is YET AGAIN failure.

Which anti-Jewish programs and who started them?



You just said it right there. "Well, he isn't really famous for anything".

How much time did you spend looking for a reason?
There is none, and you admitted it.

Also, the jews had no reason to kill other peoples.
We had never been into genocide before, and we had no reason to start then.

Your argument is entirely based on speculation, nazi propaganda, and lack of facts.

You have lost this argument.
There is nothing to prove.


Where did I say he did something for Jews?

The fact is - he was a Jew and killed millions of Whites.

Nobody has ever had a reason to commit genocide.


Let me ask you a relevant question.
Are you a humanitarian?
Do you care about the welfare of people you aren't associated with around you?

If not then I completely understand your opinion.


I don't care for individual people but people as a whole.

As you know, I don't want the races to die out.



Yea? Really?

Have you ever been to a Darfur rally or anything of the sort?

Or do they not count?


I've never even heard of a Darfur rally.
I don't approve of what's going on there if that's what you think...


I love how you don't actually put faith into your own words are how the words "why not" express it.
That sentence doesn't even make sense...

Beauty is all what you see. I see beauty in different races, not in each individual - there are ugly and beautiful of each race - but I can truthfully say all races are beautiful.



I LOVE how you refused t answer his question.

And I have never called someone a "nazi faggot" ironically.


Did I say you did?

What was his question?


What world do you live in where you see rich people throwing "all of their money into a pot"?

I live in america too buddy. In a more capitalist area than you.
That is not a reality.


Plenty of places.
The poor don't pay a dime to the government - yet get free food, clothes, etc.

They are getting more than they give.


Are you really sure other cultures aren't just having more children?
You DO KNOW that many islamic families have over 5 children right?

You know that right?


Yeah, I know.
The percentages AND numbers are falling - White families have an average of like 1.8 kids or something, and mixing isn't helping this at all.


Then have more children.
The main reason for mediterannean extinction is mixing, actually. They are mixing with other Whites and nonWhite Caucasoids.


I REALLY REALLY REALLY LOVE how you had no answer for what this person said.

Don't you love it?


Good for the Jews...
Then again, what is a Jew? That question is still raging on...
You can be an Atheist yet still considered a Jew.
You can be any race too.



1) We don't want a purely jewish nation.

2) Yea we noticed we are a very small amount of the world.
 Isn't it horribly Ironic that the jews are not the ones complaining?


1. Then you don't need one.
Why stop others for what they want?

2. Actually, YOU aren't complaining, but others Jews do.


3) LMAO. Your a dumb-ass. If someone wants to have "all jewish blood"
they still need to have purely jewish parents. Pure blood genetics rules don't change between races. Get real. If your grandfather is black you are still considered white. Also, there are children who look 100% white, and have a black parent.

I don't know what you think "Jewish Blood" is - the orignal Jews were Semitic - and their race has long since mixed out.
The Ashkenazis are usually Armenoids and have Dinaric influences along with the occasional Mongoloid admixture.

And if my grandpa was Black, I wouldn't be considered White- I'd be a Quadroon (They still look nonWhite too - you have to be BLIND to not see it).

And give examples of those "100% White" looking children - I'd like to see them.



Lol at Vikings.
They cam and left.
I wouldn't consider them the first "americans" by far.
They discovered it, but they didn't take it as their home.

It is far from the same thing.


I told you to look up Kennewick man and the Spirit Cave Mummy.
You're thousands of years off.

Also check this out:
http://www.valpo.edu/news/news.php?releaseId=3625" target="_top">http://http://www.valpo.edu/news/news.php?releaseId=3625
http://www.barnesreview.org/html/mayjune1999lead.html" target="_top">http://http://www.barnesreview.org/html/mayjune1999lead.html


As an example, many of them ended up being from the middle east and africa, after the Romans decided to conquer multiple Mediterranean countries.
I meant the original Romans. I'm fully aware that, at the end of the Roman Empire, the majority of Rome wasn't Roman.


You and the rest of the white nationalists /white supremacists can go live on the moon.

See what I did there?


Yes, I did.
Why can't we just live peacefully?

What's so wrong with a White Nation?


http://www.english-test.net/newsletter/the-world-speaks-english-23.html

"So, in total, 43 out of 100 people speak English worldwide and this number is growing by the hour."

Haha.
You fail. English is still one of the most spoken languages in the world today.


Obviously not here...


No. They are not. Not having lots of children with other white people isn't our fault. Its the white people's. We can't have sex and children for you.
What about the all-White nation? THAT would lead to more Whites, PLENTY of people are stopping that.


Schools don't teach race pride. To anyone.
Didn't say they did.


Whites are not taught that as a people they are racist.
You hear what you want to hear, and see what you want to see.
Its due time that you open your eyes to reality.

Yes, they are.
They are taught from day one that they enslaved Blacks and Amerinds and treated them like shit and THAT is why they are doing so poorly in the USA.
What about the Irish?
THEY went through that shit too. THEY were enslaved, thrown in ghettoes, viewed as inferior, etc - but they don't have high crime rates and poverty rates.


First off, whites aren't the only ones who say that.
Second off, maybe if you didn't have something that sounded racist to say, then you wouldn't have to add that short clause before your sentence.

"Racist" is a term demented by the American media.

Racism has no more meaning in the USA - EVERYTHING is considered racist.


1) Where did you find this number?

Let me guess. A white pride website?


It was conducted by William H. Regnery, Mark Stradley, and Dean Stradley.

You can also check out:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0855617.html" target="_top">http://http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0855617.html
and
http://www.population.com" target="_top">http://http://www.population.com

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Quote: from kidd rune at 8:51 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

Can you explain WHY, when Jews were denied citizenship and told to leave Germany, they didn't?
If you have lived in a country for generations and have lived there and worked there all your life and had never lived anywhere else, would you willingly leave just because the government of your country suddenly kicked you out?

If you had to pack up your stuff and leave the US tomorrow or next week you'd be fucked too. And thats today where airfare costs a bit less and everybody speaks English,

Back in the 1930s ppl didn't move around freely and easily like we do today. Packing up and leaving was a big ordeal and required a lot of money. It required knowing the languge of the new country you were going into. It required passports and passes that cost lots of money and connections. It required having family in the country where you went to help you settle.

Most people had trouble. So some sticked around hoping things would get better. They probably hoped they could just tough it out.

When they realized things were going bad though they no longer could.

Besides many did leave. Some went to other countries in Europe. They had no idea the Nazis would invade all Europe and even control parts of Africa.

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Quote: from jakelong at 9:39 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 8:51 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

Can you explain WHY, when Jews were denied citizenship and told to leave Germany, they didn't?
If you have lived in a country for generations and have lived there and worked there all your life and had never lived anywhere else, would you willingly leave just because the government of your country suddenly kicked you out?  

If you had to pack up your stuff and leave the US tomorrow or next week you'd be fucked too. And thats today where airfare costs a bit less and everybody speaks English,  

Back in the 1930s ppl didn't move around freely and easily like we do today. Packing up and leaving was a big ordeal and required a lot of money. It required knowing the languge of the new country you were going into. It required passports and passes that cost lots of money and connections. It required having family in the country where you went to help you settle.  

Most people had trouble. So some sticked around hoping things would get better. They probably hoped they could just tough it out.

When they realized things were going bad though they no longer could.  

Besides many did leave. Some went to other countries in Europe. They had no idea the Nazis would invade all Europe and even control parts of Africa.


Very very true.
In addition, passports and visas became extremely difficult to receive during the political unrest. People who did buy passports often had to wait many months before they arrived.

Many people did leave, but to expect all them them to leave at once was an impossibility.

I will answer the rest when I wake up in a few hours.
I need sleep.

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Russia had anti-Jewish programs due to them being pissed off when Jews communist-raped their country.  
What did Kaganovich do FOR Jews? Well, he isn't really famous for anything but the death of 7-10million NON JEWISH Ukrainians.  


With the party hierarchy there is obviously no way that Kaganovich alone could have 7-10 million Ukrainians killed. Whether Kaganovich was ethnically Jewish is completely irrelevant, the Holdomor effected Jews and non-Jews in Ukraine just the same. It is still debated whether the famine was a result of mismanaged policies or whether it was intentionally done by the party leadership. If it was intentional it had nothing to do with Jews, rather it to do with the Kulak's opposition to having their land collectivized and Ukrainian Nationalist resistance to the Communists. I mean even you should be able to see the logical fallacy in going from 'The famine in Ukraine was a result of Communist collectivist policies, and a member of the party hierarchy was an ethnic Jew' to 'the JEWS murdered 10 million Ukrainians'.

The Pogroms in Russia and Ukraine began far prior to the Russian revolution and continued during it, they didn't occur as a response to it. As for the Jews not leaving Germany, many did. Many more attempted to leave but no country would take them, especially since they were experiencing their own troubles during the economic depression.

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If you have lived in a country for generations and have lived there and worked there all your life and had never lived anywhere else, would you willingly leave just because the government of your country suddenly kicked you out?
Yes.


If you had to pack up your stuff and leave the US tomorrow or next week you'd be fucked too. And thats today where airfare costs a bit less and everybody speaks English


If I had a state set up FOR MY PEOPLE and was encouraged to leave, and would even get financial help - I'd leave.


Back in the 1930s ppl didn't move around freely and easily like we do today. Packing up and leaving was a big ordeal and required a lot of money. It required knowing the languge of the new country you were going into. It required passports and passes that cost lots of money and connections. It required having family in the country where you went to help you settle.
They were setting up a state for the Jews and financially helping them.

And they had a good while to leave - it wasn't a "Tomorrow" ordeal.



Very very true.
In addition, passports and visas became extremely difficult to receive during the political unrest. People who did buy passports often had to wait many months before they arrived.

Many people did leave, but to expect all them them to leave at once was an impossibility.

I will answer the rest when I wake up in a few hours.
I need sleep.


They had a long time to leave - and, as I said, they were given financial help.


With the party hierarchy there is obviously no way that Kaganovich alone could have 7-10 million Ukrainians killed. Whether Kaganovich was ethnically Jewish is completely irrelevant, the Holdomor effected Jews and non-Jews in Ukraine just the same. It is still debated whether the famine was a result of mismanaged policies or whether it was intentionally done by the party leadership. If it was intentional it had nothing to do with Jews, rather it to do with the Kulak's opposition to having their land collectivized and Ukrainian Nationalist resistance to the Communists. I mean even you should be able to see the logical fallacy in going from 'The famine in Ukraine was a result of Communist collectivist policies, and a member of the party hierarchy was an ethnic Jew' to 'the JEWS murdered 10 million Ukrainians'.

The Pogroms in Russia and Ukraine began far prior to the Russian revolution and continued during it, they didn't occur as a response to it. As for the Jews not leaving Germany, many did. Many more attempted to leave but no country would take them, especially since they were experiencing their own troubles during the economic depression.


Kaganovich was Stalins butcher.

He ORDERED the death of the Ukrainians.

And, yes, many people did NOT want them. Spain and Sweden I know sent back thousands of unwanted Jews to Germany - I'm sure they're not the only ones.

But, they were trying to create a Jewish state - and then war broke out.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 8:51 pm on Nov. 21, 2008


I love how you are such an ignorant ass.  
Can't you tell?  

I also love the fact that you don't know anything about history and Completely ignored all the facts I shoved into your face.  
I am not likely to forget that one soon.


Can you explain WHY, when Jews were denied citizenship and told to leave Germany, they didn't?

 


Because we are not racist or into complete race preservation.  
We are also not into forcible segregation or destruction of other races to get what we want.  
Sorry that jews don't follow the ideology Nazis do.

I DO NOT want race destruction at all - the EXACT OPPOSITE.

National Socialism is centered around one race - Jews were ORDERED to leave. They didn't.

It's not racist in the slightest bit.

 


LMAO.  
Your argument greatly lacks intelligence.  
At least put up an argument or admit that you don't know what youa re talking about.

]I lol'd.
Go preach 6million to more people - it's very intelligently put forth.



BUT I can truthfully say that no one forced the palestinians out.  
Study actual history for a change.  
You argument is filled with failure and lack of knowledge.  
Good job.  

I can also so FROM FACT that the only reason Israel was not kind to many palestinians is because the palestinians were not particularly tolerant of them.  

Did you know that the plot of land for one of the main israeli cities, Tel Aviv, was bought from Palestinian landowners in Yafo?  
The jews BOUGHT the land.  
Remember in that other argument?


I didn't say they forced them out - but, I did say, they weren't kind to them.

You admitted it.


They were going on at the same exact time.  
Your argument is YET AGAIN failure.

Which anti-Jewish programs and who started them?

 


You just said it right there. "Well, he isn't really famous for anything".  

How much time did you spend looking for a reason?  
There is none, and you admitted it.  

Also, the jews had no reason to kill other peoples.  
We had never been into genocide before, and we had no reason to start then.  

Your argument is entirely based on speculation, nazi propaganda, and lack of facts.  

You have lost this argument.  
There is nothing to prove.


Where did I say he did something for Jews?

The fact is - he was a Jew and killed millions of Whites.

Nobody has ever had a reason to commit genocide.


Let me ask you a relevant question.  
Are you a humanitarian?  
Do you care about the welfare of people you aren't associated with around you?  

If not then I completely understand your opinion.


I don't care for individual people but people as a whole.

As you know, I don't want the races to die out.

 


Yea? Really?  

Have you ever been to a Darfur rally or anything of the sort?  

Or do they not count?


I've never even heard of a Darfur rally.
I don't approve of what's going on there if that's what you think...


I love how you don't actually put faith into your own words are how the words "why not" express it.
That sentence doesn't even make sense...

Beauty is all what you see. I see beauty in different races, not in each individual - there are ugly and beautiful of each race - but I can truthfully say all races are beautiful.

 


I LOVE how you refused t answer his question.  

And I have never called someone a "nazi faggot" ironically.


Did I say you did?

What was his question?


What world do you live in where you see rich people throwing "all of their money into a pot"?  

I live in america too buddy. In a more capitalist area than you.  
That is not a reality.


Plenty of places.
The poor don't pay a dime to the government - yet get free food, clothes, etc.

They are getting more than they give.


Are you really sure other cultures aren't just having more children?  
You DO KNOW that many islamic families have over 5 children right?  

You know that right?


Yeah, I know.
The percentages AND numbers are falling - White families have an average of like 1.8 kids or something, and mixing isn't helping this at all.


Then have more children.
The main reason for mediterannean extinction is mixing, actually. They are mixing with other Whites and nonWhite Caucasoids.


I REALLY REALLY REALLY LOVE how you had no answer for what this person said.  

Don't you love it?


Good for the Jews...
Then again, what is a Jew? That question is still raging on...
You can be an Atheist yet still considered a Jew.
You can be any race too.

 


1) We don't want a purely jewish nation.  

2) Yea we noticed we are a very small amount of the world.  
  Isn't it horribly Ironic that the jews are not the ones complaining?


1. Then you don't need one.
Why stop others for what they want?

2. Actually, YOU aren't complaining, but others Jews do.


3) LMAO. Your a dumb-ass. If someone wants to have "all jewish blood"  
they still need to have purely jewish parents. Pure blood genetics rules don't change between races. Get real. If your grandfather is black you are still considered white. Also, there are children who look 100% white, and have a black parent.

I don't know what you think "Jewish Blood" is - the orignal Jews were Semitic - and their race has long since mixed out.
The Ashkenazis are usually Armenoids and have Dinaric influences along with the occasional Mongoloid admixture.

And if my grandpa was Black, I wouldn't be considered White- I'd be a Quadroon (They still look nonWhite too - you have to be BLIND to not see it).

And give examples of those "100% White" looking children - I'd like to see them.

 


Lol at Vikings.  
They cam and left.  
I wouldn't consider them the first "americans" by far.  
They discovered it, but they didn't take it as their home.  

It is far from the same thing.


I told you to look up Kennewick man and the Spirit Cave Mummy.
You're thousands of years off.

Also check this out:
http://www.valpo.edu/news/news.php?releaseId=3625" target="_top">http://http://www.valpo.edu/news/news.php?releaseId=3625
http://www.barnesreview.org/html/mayjune1999lead.html" target="_top">http://http://www.barnesreview.org/html/mayjune1999lead.html


As an example, many of them ended up being from the middle east and africa, after the Romans decided to conquer multiple Mediterranean countries.
I meant the original Romans. I'm fully aware that, at the end of the Roman Empire, the majority of Rome wasn't Roman.


You and the rest of the white nationalists /white supremacists can go live on the moon.  

See what I did there?


Yes, I did.
Why can't we just live peacefully?

What's so wrong with a White Nation?


 

http://www.english-test.net/newsletter/the-world-speaks-english-23.html  

"So, in total, 43 out of 100 people speak English worldwide and this number is growing by the hour."  

Haha.  
You fail. English is still one of the most spoken languages in the world today.


Obviously not here...


No. They are not. Not having lots of children with other white people isn't our fault. Its the white people's. We can't have sex and children for you.
What about the all-White nation? THAT would lead to more Whites, PLENTY of people are stopping that.


Schools don't teach race pride. To anyone.
Didn't say they did.


Whites are not taught that as a people they are racist.  
You hear what you want to hear, and see what you want to see.  
Its due time that you open your eyes to reality.

Yes, they are.
They are taught from day one that they enslaved Blacks and Amerinds and treated them like shit and THAT is why they are doing so poorly in the USA.
What about the Irish?
THEY went through that shit too. THEY were enslaved, thrown in ghettoes, viewed as inferior, etc - but they don't have high crime rates and poverty rates.


First off, whites aren't the only ones who say that.  
Second off, maybe if you didn't have something that sounded racist to say, then you wouldn't have to add that short clause before your sentence.

"Racist" is a term demented by the American media.

Racism has no more meaning in the USA - EVERYTHING is considered racist.


1) Where did you find this number?  

Let me guess. A white pride website?


It was conducted by William H. Regnery, Mark Stradley, and Dean Stradley.

You can also check out:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0855617.html" target="_top">http://http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0855617.html
and
http://www.population.com" target="_top">http://http://www.population.com


"Can you explain WHY, when Jews were denied citizenship and told to leave Germany, they didn't? "

This has been discussed.

Now can you explain why you refuse to respond to anything I tell you?
Can you explain why you avoid facts that are presented?

REMEMBER I am the one asking the questions.
You just are refusing to answer them.
I am STILL waiting for a reaction.

"I DO NOT want race destruction at all - the EXACT OPPOSITE.

National Socialism is centered around one race - Jews were ORDERED to leave. They didn't.

It's not racist in the slightest bit. "

Yes. It is racist.
If I walk into you house, and tell you to get out what are you going to do?
Jews were citizens one day and 'deemed' non-citizens on the next.

"Sorry that jews don't follow the ideology NAZIS do."

Are you calling yourself a Nazi?
Well then I guess you are racist.
Notice how I never said "national socialism".

"I lol'd.
Go preach 6million to more people - it's very intelligently put forth. "


Can you read?

YOU STILL HAVEN'T RESPONDED TO MY ARGUMENT!

Do you care to?
Or are you just into making a jackass of yourself?

I am waiting.
1) The number wasn't even being discussed.
2) Its pretty pathetic that you can't even admit that you  are completely wrong.
3) Respond to the arguments or shut up.


"I didn't say they forced them out - but, I did say, they weren't kind to them. "

LMAO.
READ YOUR FIRST ARGUMENT.
You fail. Especially when you don't stand by something that you said before.
In addition you just lied about saying it.

Listen to what comes out of your mouth before you criticize what comes out of others.
Right now horse shit is flowing out of yours.

I also love how you left out the "Indian giver" part.
Afraid to use your own racist terms when it doesn't support your ideology?

"You admitted it. "

I never denied it.
But you don't even have any idea why.
You know as much about the palestinaian- israeli situation, as you do about the edges of the universe.
NOTHING.

"Which anti-Jewish programs and who started them? "

Lmao.
You fucking idiot.
You don't even know what a pogrom is do you?

(I noticed that another person responded to this, so I am not going to waste my time going over teh same thing.)

"Where did I say he did something for Jews?

The fact is - he was a Jew and killed millions of Whites.

Nobody has ever had a reason to commit genocide. "

When did you say he ever did anything for the jews? O I don't know...  every-time you have ever used this argument?

The fact is- you don't know anything about russian history either. Except for what of course is only important to support your propaganda.
Funny that someone who respects Hitler would say that.

"I don't care for individual people but people as a whole.

As you know, I don't want the races to die out. "

I really really really love how you never answered my question.
Yet again.

Why don't you answer my questions?
You are damn good at avoiding them.
Now get damn good at saying something worthwhile.

How can you care about groups of people, if you have no pity for individual people?
As an example:
How can you stop poverty without helping individual people also?
Talk does not equal action, no matter how much someone may want it to.

"I've never even heard of a Darfur rally.
I don't approve of what's going on there if that's what you think..."

LMAO.
Wow.
Are you a hermit.
Ever been to our nations capital?

http://www.savedarfur.org/page/event/detail/wqt

There are many rallies a year, and they are held in many many different places.

Not approving of something, and doing something about it are two very different things.
As far as I can tell, you are a pacifist unless something effects you personally.

"That sentence doesn't even make sense...

Beauty is all what you see. I see beauty in different races, not in each individual - there are ugly and beautiful of each race - but I can truthfully say all races are beautiful. "

Yes it did actually.
Do you believe anything you say, or do you change your ideology as you go along so that you make yourself look like some kind of divine being?
I have seen NO PROOF that you find ANYTHING DESIRABLE in any races other than your own.
I don't think you can truthfully say that all races are beautiful.
I think that you are saying things to yourself so that you don't feel racist.

" What was his question"

Read back.

"Plenty of places.
The poor don't pay a dime to the government - yet get free food, clothes, etc.

They are getting more than they give. "

For the most part, even people under the poverty line pay taxes.
Also, the middle class tends to pay more taxes than the upper class percentage wise.

Also, illegal immigranst don't recieve any favors from the government.

Please don't say anything if you don't know what you are talking about.
Since I live near one of the biggest cities in the world, I am pretty sure that I have had much more interaction with poor people than you have.
How many poor people have you met?
Seen sleeping in a subway terminal?


"The percentages AND numbers are falling - White families have an average of like 1.8 kids or something, and mixing isn't helping this at all. "

Then have more children.
Like I said, we can't do that for you.

"The main reason for mediterannean extinction is mixing, actually. They are mixing with other Whites and nonWhite Caucasoids. "

No one is doing that to you.
That is your own fault.
No one is forcing whites to marry other races.

"Good for the Jews...
Then again, what is a Jew? That question is still raging on...
You can be an Atheist yet still considered a Jew.
You can be any race too. "

Lol.

You still had no answer.
You fail royally.

Learn to read and respond, instead of avoiding questions so conspicuously.

"Why stop others for what they want? "

Because it would involve relocating and hurting millions upon millions of people?
There isn't a peaceful way to follow out your plan.

"Actually, YOU aren't complaining, but others Jews do. "

Tell me. How many jews do you know personally?
How many jews have you ever had as friends?
How many jews have you ever spoken to?

"Kennewick man"

He still hasn't been classified into ANY specific race.
And obviously he was not successful in doing anything except for dying and decaying/

"Spirit Cave Mummy"

Take not of how neither of them created a long lasting civilization.
All died and were lost to history.

"What's so wrong with a White Nation? "

Like I said before, the creation of one could and would not be peaceful.
Its not possible.
And also, if no other country is exclusively for one race, why should your be?

"Obviously not here..."

HAHA.
You fail.
You lack of knowledge is laughable.
English is far from extinction, and if you think it is even a possibility then you are deranged.

"What about the all-White nation? THAT would lead to more Whites, PLENTY of people are stopping that. "

*Note above argument*

"Yes, they are. "

OOO.
I am scared right now.
The huge lack of objective argument almost gave me a heart attack.

""Racist" is a term demented by the American media. "

Yea. Right. Proof?




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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:37 pm on Nov. 21, 2008

The rights to existence - yes. The rights to get jobs, college, and money BECAUSE of their race - hell no!
Yet this is excatly what Nazis did. They claimed that only whites "aryans" had the right to get jobs, college and money because of their race and that Jews who were of a "different" race than "aryans" did not have those rights.

Pretty racist.

And you THAT's ok.   So you're racist.


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"What about the all-White nation? THAT would lead to more Whites, PLENTY of people are stopping that. "
If they breed at the same rate as they do right now there won't be more whites.

Even if you put them all in cages in azoo and feed them like porks and they don't breed there still won't be more of them.  

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