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Though it is close to fact that they advanced these inventions for the better if not invented.
Obviously you don't understand.

They didn't look at an invention, then 20 years later go on and improve it.

There were invention FADS. Within usually a three year period - there would be a bunch of "Improvements" on inventions.

That is the case for many of these.

SURE, some of them were good improvements and we may have gotten input from them - but most of those claims were pure bullshit and the improvements were just a basic addition, among hundreds of others.


Besides there are many other black inventions that are not a hoax =/
That whole thread is DEDICATED to those inventions - if you can find some - please tell me. I will add them to my list (That is, sadly, one invention long).

And no, I'm not talking about the super soaker or something like that...

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Quote: from kidd rune at 5:31 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


Though it is close to fact that they advanced these inventions for the better if not invented.
Obviously you don't understand.

They didn't look at an invention, then 20 years later go on and improve it.

There were invention FADS. Within usually a three year period - there would be a bunch of "Improvements" on inventions.

That is the case for many of these.

SURE, some of them were good improvements and we may have gotten input from them - but most of those claims were pure bullshit and the improvements were just a basic addition, among hundreds of others.


Besides there are many other black inventions that are not a hoax =/
That whole thread is DEDICATED to those inventions - if you can find some - please tell me. I will add them to my list (That is, sadly, one invention long).

And no, I'm not talking about the super soaker or something like that...


Well I am sure it would be a real treat for you to enlighten yourself. You will surely be surprised =/

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Well I am sure it would be a real treat for you to enlighten yourself. You will surely be surprised =/
Hurry - go find those inventions.

I am waiting.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Quote: from kidd rune at 5:39 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


Well I am sure it would be a real treat for you to enlighten yourself. You will surely be surprised =/
Hurry - go find those inventions.

I am waiting.


Here is the invention myths site http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/

The site that talks about it being false http://www.newsnet14.com/2007/07/black-invention-myths-rehashed/

And a list of inventions so you can see what's on the pitiful invention myth list and what's not......

http://inventors.about.com/library/blblackinventors.htm

Personally it's just like some people say. Just another attempt of a white man trying to take away something from a black person. (No racial emphasis intended)

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The site that talks about it being false http://www.newsnet14.com/2007/07/black-invention-myths-rehashed/
That site is just a mirror of the above site.

It does not talk about it being false.


And a list of inventions so you can see what's on the pitiful invention myth list and what's not......
That's a list of inventors.

Give me the names of the inventions, the years, etc.

THAT is what I want.


And the Brinkster list is incomplete - I myself have found many more myths that are NOT on that site.


Just another attempt of a white man trying to take away something from a black person.
HA!
Those inventions are CLAIMED by Blacks and really invented by Whites (or other races).

How are Whites trying to steal something if there is evident proof that nonBlacks created it?

We're not trying to take anything from you - we just keep on GIVING to you. Many African nations have been surviving on foreign aid for 50 years now. In some countries it accounts for 10% of the nation's gross domestic product and half of the governments budget. However, nothing really EVER improves. Sub-Saharan Africa represents 1% of global trade (Yet has much more than 1% of the worlds resources).

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Quote: from kidd rune at 5:49 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


The site that talks about it being false http://www.newsnet14.com/2007/07/black-invention-myths-rehashed/
That site is just a mirror of the above site.

It does not talk about it being false.


And a list of inventions so you can see what's on the pitiful invention myth list and what's not......
That's a list of inventors.

Give me the names of the inventions, the years, etc.

THAT is what I want.

 
And the Brinkster list is incomplete - I myself have found many more myths that are NOT on that site.


Just another attempt of a white man trying to take away something from a black person.
HA!
Those inventions are CLAIMED by Blacks and really invented by Whites (or other races).

How are Whites trying to steal something if there is evident proof that nonBlacks created it?

We're not trying to take anything from you - we just keep on GIVING to you. Many African nations have been surviving on foreign aid for 50 years now. In some countries it accounts for 10% of the nation's gross domestic product and half of the governments budget. However, nothing really EVER improves. Sub-Saharan Africa represents 1% of global trade (Yet has much more than 1% of the worlds resources).


Wow.......somehow I am feeling sick of this deja vu......

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First of all I am sick and tired of white people thinking that giving to Africa makes the injustices put on blacks here just go away. If someone helps poor people in Europe would that mean they are giving to you Kidd Rune? It's nice that those Africans are being helped but keep in mind that white people pretty much took over Africa too and they have all the riches. "We keep giving to you" give me a break.........

On another note here http://www.black-collegian.com/african/inventions605.shtml

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First of all I am sick and tired of white people thinking that giving to Africa makes the injustices put on blacks here just go away.
I'm sick and tired of Blacks claiming Whites should give them benefits for "Oppressing" them.

Go ask the Mulsims - they killed and enslaved more Blacks than Whites ever could hope to.


If someone helps poor people in Europe would that mean they are giving to you Kidd Rune?
If they are directly benefiting my race then I believe they are helping me (or more importantly my people).


It's nice that those Africans are being helped but keep in mind that white people pretty much took over Africa too and they have all the riches.
It's not that I'm saying that paying Africa is taking so called prejudices away from Blacks in the USA - but the help we're giving Africa isn't doing anything at all, obviously.


"We keep giving to you" give me a break.........
*Cough* Affirmative action *Cough* United Negro College Fund *Cough* Your own month *Cough*

Whites give Blacks more than Blacks give Whites (or themselves for that matter).

Sure, we enslaved you hundreds of years ago - but don't tell me there aren't more Black slaves in Africa at THIS EXACT SECOND then there ever were in the USA.

Don't tell me we're still "Pushin' the Black man down" when you've got a Black man (Even if he's a mulatto) in the White house.

And I'll get to those inventions soon.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:03 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


First of all I am sick and tired of white people thinking that giving to Africa makes the injustices put on blacks here just go away.
I'm sick and tired of Blacks claiming Whites should give them benefits for "Oppressing" them.  

Go ask the Mulsims - they killed and enslaved more Blacks than Whites ever could hope to.  


If someone helps poor people in Europe would that mean they are giving to you Kidd Rune?
If they are directly benefiting my race then I believe they are helping me (or more importantly my people).  


It's nice that those Africans are being helped but keep in mind that white people pretty much took over Africa too and they have all the riches.
It's not that I'm saying that paying Africa is taking so called prejudices away from Blacks in the USA - but the help we're giving Africa isn't doing anything at all, obviously.  


"We keep giving to you" give me a break.........
*Cough* Affirmative action *Cough* United Negro College Fund *Cough* Your own month *Cough*  

Whites give Blacks more than Blacks give Whites (or themselves for that matter).  

Sure, we enslaved you hundreds of years ago - but don't tell me there aren't more Black slaves in Africa at THIS EXACT SECOND then there ever were in the USA.  

Don't tell me we're still "Pushin' the Black man down" when you've got a Black man (Even if he's a mulatto) in the White house.  

And I'll get to those inventions soon.


See there you go again. Who says I think you owe me for the enslavement of Africans? See how you judge the black race as a whole thinking their intentions are the same? I don't think you pay attention but injustices on minority (Not just blacks) are still practiced. We may have a "mulatto" in the white house but if he just falls into what the corporations want him to do then it will be no different. How can blacks give anything (besides the inventions which you said you were going to get to) when they have been oppressed so long? Sure I might have not been enslaved but if you take a race that starts out with nothing, there is going to be some economic interference and then after that discrimination that lags the process of a race to prosper. Eventually not many opportunities will be open for that person. black people are a somewhat dysfunctional race due to the effects of slavery that carried on whether you wanted to believe it or not. I know I know, you probably hate me bringing up slavery again but hay it all connects. There are black people that did go from nothing to something and they were very very intelligent, fortunate and lucky to not suffer what some others have in the road to success. I mean black people did really build this country way back out of labor which is something you are probably going to try to disprove which I am ready for. Now me as a 14 year old black do have an opportunity in education which I am grateful for. I don't expect to not get hit with discrimination on my road to success though......

Really there are white people who actually do understand the situation unlike you no offense and are willing to know both sides instead of analyze everything from your own side of the spectrum.......

If you really know the situation I wouldn't be hearing the same stuff I have heard in many of my other arguments which all ended in a pointless discard of the topic........

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On another note here http://www.black-collegian.com/african/inventions605.shtml
I thoroughly revised this:
http://raceandreason.110mb.com/files/~Inventions/GLW-fag.html" target="_top">http://http://raceandreason.110mb.com/files/~Inventions/GLW-fag.html

RESULTS:
MYTHS: 54
UNKNOWNS: 5
PROVEN: 0

Fix that 5 and 0 for me!

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injustices on minority (Not just blacks) are still practiced
And Whites too!


How can blacks give anything (besides the inventions which you said you were going to get to) when they have been oppressed so long?
They had plenty of time in Africa - but they FAILED to present a wheel.



black people are a somewhat dysfunctional race due to the effects of slavery that carried on whether you wanted to believe it or not. I know I know, you probably hate me bringing up slavery again but hay it all connects. There are black people that did go from nothing to something and they were very very intelligent, fortunate and lucky to not suffer what some others have in the road to success.
Can you PROVE that it's slavery - or is that just a conclusion?

I'm not making claims - I'm just handing out facts.

Blacks didn't contribute as much to society as other races - it's up to the reader to find out WHY.


I mean black people did really build this country way back out of labor which is something you are probably going to try to disprove which I am ready for.
Don't say that picking cotton is equal to fighting a war for freedom (Yes, 5000 Blacks fought for the USA in the revolutionary war - but 20,000 fought for the British) or establishing a government. How many blacks signed the constitution?

How many Black presidents have there been (Obama isn't yet the President, nor did he do anything yet)?


Now me as a 14 year old black do have an opportunity in education which I am grateful for. I don't expect to not get hit with discrimination on my road to success though......
You take the PSAT in 10th grade, right?

Well, don't fill in that bubble for "Black Americans" that signs you up for two scholarships only for Blacks.
THAT is the reason for this topic - race EQUALITY.

"Equal rights for all - Special rights for none." - NAAWP


Really there are white people who actually do understand the situation unlike you no offense and are willing to know both sides instead of analyze everything from your own side of the spectrum.......
I've been on your "Side" and I feel sorry for myself and every White that is on it.

You Blacks aren't as oppressed as you think.



If you really know the situation I wouldn't be hearing the same stuff I have heard in many of my other arguments which all ended in a pointless discard of the topic
Do YOU know the situation?

And your new president isn't really pro-White.

There is a strikingly low amount of White gentiles on his team.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 7:56 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


injustices on minority (Not just blacks) are still practiced
And Whites too!  


How can blacks give anything (besides the inventions which you said you were going to get to) when they have been oppressed so long?
They had plenty of time in Africa - but they FAILED to present a wheel.  



black people are a somewhat dysfunctional race due to the effects of slavery that carried on whether you wanted to believe it or not. I know I know, you probably hate me bringing up slavery again but hay it all connects. There are black people that did go from nothing to something and they were very very intelligent, fortunate and lucky to not suffer what some others have in the road to success.
Can you PROVE that it's slavery - or is that just a conclusion?  

I'm not making claims - I'm just handing out facts.  

Blacks didn't contribute as much to society as other races - it's up to the reader to find out WHY.  


I mean black people did really build this country way back out of labor which is something you are probably going to try to disprove which I am ready for.
Don't say that picking cotton is equal to fighting a war for freedom (Yes, 5000 Blacks fought for the USA in the revolutionary war - but 20,000 fought for the British) or establishing a government. How many blacks signed the constitution?  

How many Black presidents have there been (Obama isn't yet the President, nor did he do anything yet)?  


Now me as a 14 year old black do have an opportunity in education which I am grateful for. I don't expect to not get hit with discrimination on my road to success though......
You take the PSAT in 10th grade, right?  

Well, don't fill in that bubble for "Black Americans" that signs you up for two scholarships only for Blacks.  
THAT is the reason for this topic - race EQUALITY.  

"Equal rights for all - Special rights for none." - NAAWP  


Really there are white people who actually do understand the situation unlike you no offense and are willing to know both sides instead of analyze everything from your own side of the spectrum.......
I've been on your "Side" and I feel sorry for myself and every White that is on it.  

You Blacks aren't as oppressed as you think.  



If you really know the situation I wouldn't be hearing the same stuff I have heard in many of my other arguments which all ended in a pointless discard of the topic
Do YOU know the situation?  

And your new president isn't really pro-White.  

There is a strikingly low amount of White gentiles on his team.


You can say whites too all you want but since your the majority and you practically run the country, you can't act as if it keeps you from getting by. No black people have not had a lot of time. Especially with constant discrimination that still goes on today. Like I said no offense but a white person like you will never get it. Especially one that's not interested at all in getting to know both sides of each story. I think you will never know the difference of lifestyle in being black and white and how each race is looked at differently. Blacks and whites live in two different worlds so you won't know how it's like unless you put on a convincing "black suit". It's not like blacks would sign the constitution anyways. Especially if they were never given an apology, still discriminated against, and even in serving in the war they were cheated and put in jail because of another soldier lying saying they shot someone.....

Really if a country enslaved you, cheated you and looked down on you would you look up to that country? Don't lie and say yes.........

It doesn't matter how many white people are on his team. If he buys into what the corporations want such as bailouts then it will be no different like I said.

As for the PSAT, The argument I put up with no child left behind is for a different forum =/

Trust me, you have not been on my side, if you think like that, you have learned nothing if you ever were on this side. Like I said it's common knowledge that things are different for white people and black people. That's just the way the world is. Don't act as if you and me have the same opportunities without any racial interference.  

Also again my research shows that although they weren't the first to invent these things, there was major improvement done to the prototypes of the people who first invented it.  I'm sure though that your smart enough not to pull a stunt like " These blacks had nothing to do with the inventions at all!" or some crap like that. If you did I guess you would be trying to say they did " Hey black guy, want to claim the title of helping invent the fridge?"........

I mean I understand your motives in trying to make blacks seem worthless. I know you might say you aren't but you don't talk very understandingly and intelligently on the subject of blacks. Like lot of whites you seem to be like one of those people to say " They should get over it" " Slavery wasn't even that bad" and stuff. That's the kind of person you make out to be in my opinion......

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You can say whites too all you want but since your the majority and you practically run the country, you can't act as if it keeps you from getting by.
1.Whites are 2/3 of the USA (If you consider Arabics, Pakistanis, etc to be White)
2. Whites are DYING as a majority.
3. Most Whites are anti-White.



No black people have not had a lot of time. Especially with constant discrimination that still goes on today. Like I said no offense but a white person like you will never get it. Especially one that's not interested at all in getting to know both sides of each story. I think you will never know the difference of lifestyle in being black and white and how each race is looked at differently. Blacks and whites live in two different worlds so you won't know how it's like unless you put on a convincing "black suit".
That's just it - I WAS on your side.

I was all White guilt Black oppression.

YOU won't get it because YOU don't want to admit your people haven't done much at all.



It's not like blacks would sign the constitution anyways.
They were viewed as 3/5 of a human anyway.


Really if a country enslaved you, cheated you and looked down on you would you look up to that country? Don't lie and say yes.........
How about the Irish?

THEY were discriminated against, enslaved, called "White Niggers" and much more.

They were enslaved and used as servants in their own country.

Many of the first Irish to come to the USA came as indentured servants, butlers, housemaids, and such, and later earned their freedom. In some cases in colonies in the Caribbean there were Irish Catholics who were forced to work as slave labor side by side with negroes.

When alot of them started showing up in America in the 19th and into the early 20th century they were mostly confined to ghettoes, no one would hire them, all of the help wanted signs would say NINA(No Irish Need Apply), and so many of them turned to crime, they started America's first real street gangs and first organized crime syndicates, even before the Italians. Many of them would start making alot of money as criminals and wear flashy, bright colored suits and jewelry, some of those Irish gangsters would strut around in green suits and bowler hats with emerald pinky rings and stuff like that , they would give themselves flashy sounding street nicknames like "Old Smoke"(John Morrissey), "Owney the Killer"(Owney Madden) or "Diamond Jim"(like Diamond Jim Brady), the Irish are really the ones who started that kind of stuff.


Trust me, you have not been on my side, if you think like that, you have learned nothing if you ever were on this side. Like I said it's common knowledge that things are different for white people and black people. That's just the way the world is. Don't act as if you and me have the same opportunities without any racial interference.  
I didn't say it was the same - but you're not being oppressed like you think you are.

Also again my research shows that although they weren't the first to invent these things, there was major improvement done to the prototypes of the people who first invented it.  I'm sure though that your smart enough not to pull a stunt like " These blacks had nothing to do with the inventions at all!" or some crap like that. If you did I guess you would be trying to say they did " Hey black guy, want to claim the title of helping invent the fridge?".
Examples and proof please.
I'm not denying - I just want proof!


I mean I understand your motives in trying to make blacks seem worthless. I know you might say you aren't but you don't talk very understandingly and intelligently on the subject of blacks. Like lot of whites you seem to be like one of those people to say " They should get over it" " Slavery wasn't even that bad" and stuff. That's the kind of person you make out to be in my opinion......
Are you a slave? No.
Were Whites slaves? Yes.


Explain this:
Throughout 6,000 years of recorded history, the Black African Negro has invented nothing. Not a written language, weaved cloth, a calendar, a plow, a road, a bridge, a railway, a ship, a system of measurement, or even the wheel.

He is not known to have ever cultivated a single crop or domesticated a single animal for his own use.

His only known means of transporting goods was on the top of his hard burry head. For shelter he never progressed beyond the common mud hut, the construction of which a beaver or muskrat is capable.

Also, from Race Evolution and Behavior:


The first explorers in East Africa wrote that they were shocked by the nudity, paganism,
cannibalism, and poverty of the natives. Some claimed Blacks had the nature "of wild animals... most of
them go naked... the child does not know his father, and they eat people." Another claimed they had a
natural sense of rhythm so that if a Black "were to fall from heaven to earth he would beat time as he goes
down." A few even wrote books and made paintings of Africans with over-sized sex organs.


Sound familiar? All just a reflection of racism? Maybe so, but these examples are not from 19th
Century European colonialists or KKK hate literature. They come from the Muslim Arabs who first
entered Black Africa over 1,200 years ago (in the 700s), as detailed in Bernard Lewis's 1990 book, Race
and Slavery in the Middle East.




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You can say whites too all you want but since your the majority and you practically run the country, you can't act as if it keeps you from getting by.
1.Whites are 2/3 of the USA (If you consider Arabics, Pakistanis, etc to be White)
2. Whites are DYING as a majority.
3. Most Whites are anti-White.

 


No black people have not had a lot of time. Especially with constant discrimination that still goes on today. Like I said no offense but a white person like you will never get it. Especially one that's not interested at all in getting to know both sides of each story. I think you will never know the difference of lifestyle in being black and white and how each race is looked at differently. Blacks and whites live in two different worlds so you won't know how it's like unless you put on a convincing "black suit".
That's just it - I WAS on your side.

I was all White guilt Black oppression.

YOU won't get it because YOU don't want to admit your people haven't done much at all.

 


It's not like blacks would sign the constitution anyways.
They were viewed as 3/5 of a human anyway.


Really if a country enslaved you, cheated you and looked down on you would you look up to that country? Don't lie and say yes.........
How about the Irish?

THEY were discriminated against, enslaved, called "White Niggers" and much more.

They were enslaved and used as servants in their own country.  

Many of the first Irish to come to the USA came as indentured servants, butlers, housemaids, and such, and later earned their freedom. In some cases in colonies in the Caribbean there were Irish Catholics who were forced to work as slave labor side by side with negroes.

When alot of them started showing up in America in the 19th and into the early 20th century they were mostly confined to ghettoes, no one would hire them, all of the help wanted signs would say NINA(No Irish Need Apply), and so many of them turned to crime, they started America's first real street gangs and first organized crime syndicates, even before the Italians. Many of them would start making alot of money as criminals and wear flashy, bright colored suits and jewelry, some of those Irish gangsters would strut around in green suits and bowler hats with emerald pinky rings and stuff like that , they would give themselves flashy sounding street nicknames like "Old Smoke"(John Morrissey), "Owney the Killer"(Owney Madden) or "Diamond Jim"(like Diamond Jim Brady), the Irish are really the ones who started that kind of stuff.  


Trust me, you have not been on my side, if you think like that, you have learned nothing if you ever were on this side. Like I said it's common knowledge that things are different for white people and black people. That's just the way the world is. Don't act as if you and me have the same opportunities without any racial interference.
I didn't say it was the same - but you're not being oppressed like you think you are.

Also again my research shows that although they weren't the first to invent these things, there was major improvement done to the prototypes of the people who first invented it. I'm sure though that your smart enough not to pull a stunt like " These blacks had nothing to do with the inventions at all!" or some crap like that. If you did I guess you would be trying to say they did " Hey black guy, want to claim the title of helping invent the fridge?".
Examples and proof please.
I'm not denying - I just want proof!


I mean I understand your motives in trying to make blacks seem worthless. I know you might say you aren't but you don't talk very understandingly and intelligently on the subject of blacks. Like lot of whites you seem to be like one of those people to say " They should get over it" " Slavery wasn't even that bad" and stuff. That's the kind of person you make out to be in my opinion......
Are you a slave? No.
Were Whites slaves? Yes.

 
Explain this:
Throughout 6,000 years of recorded history, the Black African Negro has invented nothing. Not a written language, weaved cloth, a calendar, a plow, a road, a bridge, a railway, a ship, a system of measurement, or even the wheel.

He is not known to have ever cultivated a single crop or domesticated a single animal for his own use.

His only known means of transporting goods was on the top of his hard burry head. For shelter he never progressed beyond the common mud hut, the construction of which a beaver or muskrat is capable.

Also, from Race Evolution and Behavior:


The first explorers in East Africa wrote that they were shocked by the nudity, paganism,  
cannibalism, and poverty of the natives. Some claimed Blacks had the nature "of wild animals... most of  
them go naked... the child does not know his father, and they eat people." Another claimed they had a  
natural sense of rhythm so that if a Black "were to fall from heaven to earth he would beat time as he goes  
down." A few even wrote books and made paintings of Africans with over-sized sex organs.

 
Sound familiar? All just a reflection of racism? Maybe so, but these examples are not from 19th  
Century European colonialists or KKK hate literature. They come from the Muslim Arabs who first  
entered Black Africa over 1,200 years ago (in the 700s), as detailed in Bernard Lewis's 1990 book, Race  
and Slavery in the Middle East.



You are just hopeless and sad. Not even going to argue with you about it anymore because your like a broken record. No one is trying to deny anything. Your just trying to discredit blacks as much as possible.....

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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:20 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


You can say whites too all you want but since your the majority and you practically run the country, you can't act as if it keeps you from getting by.
1.Whites are 2/3 of the USA (If you consider Arabics, Pakistanis, etc to be White)  
 2. Whites are DYING as a majority.  
 3. Most Whites are anti-White.  

 
 


No black people have not had a lot of time. Especially with constant discrimination that still goes on today. Like I said no offense but a white person like you will never get it. Especially one that's not interested at all in getting to know both sides of each story. I think you will never know the difference of lifestyle in being black and white and how each race is looked at differently. Blacks and whites live in two different worlds so you won't know how it's like unless you put on a convincing "black suit".
That's just it - I WAS on your side.  

 I was all White guilt Black oppression.  

 YOU won't get it because YOU don't want to admit your people haven't done much at all.  

 
 


It's not like blacks would sign the constitution anyways.
They were viewed as 3/5 of a human anyway.  

 


Really if a country enslaved you, cheated you and looked down on you would you look up to that country? Don't lie and say yes.........
How about the Irish?  

 THEY were discriminated against, enslaved, called "White Niggers" and much more.  

 They were enslaved and used as servants in their own country.

 Many of the first Irish to come to the USA came as indentured servants, butlers, housemaids, and such, and later earned their freedom. In some cases in colonies in the Caribbean there were Irish Catholics who were forced to work as slave labor side by side with negroes.  

 When alot of them started showing up in America in the 19th and into the early 20th century they were mostly confined to ghettoes, no one would hire them, all of the help wanted signs would say NINA(No Irish Need Apply), and so many of them turned to crime, they started America's first real street gangs and first organized crime syndicates, even before the Italians. Many of them would start making alot of money as criminals and wear flashy, bright colored suits and jewelry, some of those Irish gangsters would strut around in green suits and bowler hats with emerald pinky rings and stuff like that , they would give themselves flashy sounding street nicknames like "Old Smoke"(John Morrissey), "Owney the Killer"(Owney Madden) or "Diamond Jim"(like Diamond Jim Brady), the Irish are really the ones who started that kind of stuff.

 


Trust me, you have not been on my side, if you think like that, you have learned nothing if you ever were on this side. Like I said it's common knowledge that things are different for white people and black people. That's just the way the world is. Don't act as if you and me have the same opportunities without any racial interference.  
I didn't say it was the same - but you're not being oppressed like you think you are.  
 

Also again my research shows that although they weren't the first to invent these things, there was major improvement done to the prototypes of the people who first invented it.  I'm sure though that your smart enough not to pull a stunt like " These blacks had nothing to do with the inventions at all!" or some crap like that. If you did I guess you would be trying to say they did " Hey black guy, want to claim the title of helping invent the fridge?".
Examples and proof please.  
 I'm not denying - I just want proof!  

 


I mean I understand your motives in trying to make blacks seem worthless. I know you might say you aren't but you don't talk very understandingly and intelligently on the subject of blacks. Like lot of whites you seem to be like one of those people to say " They should get over it" " Slavery wasn't even that bad" and stuff. That's the kind of person you make out to be in my opinion......
Are you a slave? No.  
 Were Whites slaves? Yes.  

 
 Explain this:  
 Throughout 6,000 years of recorded history, the Black African Negro has invented nothing. Not a written language, weaved cloth, a calendar, a plow, a road, a bridge, a railway, a ship, a system of measurement, or even the wheel.  

 He is not known to have ever cultivated a single crop or domesticated a single animal for his own use.  

 His only known means of transporting goods was on the top of his hard burry head. For shelter he never progressed beyond the common mud hut, the construction of which a beaver or muskrat is capable.  

 Also, from Race Evolution and Behavior:


The first explorers in East Africa wrote that they were shocked by the nudity, paganism,
 cannibalism, and poverty of the natives. Some claimed Blacks had the nature "of wild animals... most of
 them go naked... the child does not know his father, and they eat people." Another claimed they had a
 natural sense of rhythm so that if a Black "were to fall from heaven to earth he would beat time as he goes
 down." A few even wrote books and made paintings of Africans with over-sized sex organs.  

 
 Sound familiar? All just a reflection of racism? Maybe so, but these examples are not from 19th
 Century European colonialists or KKK hate literature. They come from the Muslim Arabs who first
 entered Black Africa over 1,200 years ago (in the 700s), as detailed in Bernard Lewis's 1990 book, Race
 and Slavery in the Middle East.



You are just hopeless and sad. Not even going to argue with you about it anymore because your like a broken record. No one is trying to deny anything. Your just trying to discredit blacks as much as possible.....

Also maybe the Irish didn't have dark skin, which was looked at as an animal feature by white people by the way........

I mean if you actually think black people have contributed nothing, you are obviously one of those whites that can't take it that a black has done something. Were you really on my side because I don't think our ideals are the same. I mean you are going a little bit overboard. I get your argument on blacks no "FULLY" inventing some of those items but you are kind of being insulting and unbelievable with it......




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