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to promote more true race equality
Replies: 142Last Post Dec. 5, 2008 2:51pm by kidd rune
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Yeah exactly We shouldn't teach AP European history either because we don't have AP Asian History or AP latino History or AP African history.

In fact we should stop having History classes since the more we learn about hisory the more we realize that people hate each other over race, people kill each over race, people extermintate others because of race, etc...

That way we can all get along better right?


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"Equality may perhaps be a right, but no power on earth can ever turn it into a fact."
-Balzac

"Nobody is more inferior than those who insist on being equal."
-Nietzsche

"Fundamental principle of justice: Do not make equal what is unequal."
-Nietzsche

"Thank God for the Blacks, for if there were no Blacks in the world, the theory of racial equality might be easy to believe."
-George Lincoln Rockwell

"Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom."
-Alexis de Tocqueville

Quotes to ponder?

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Quote: from bladelancer17 at 2:37 pm on Nov. 23, 2008

Quote: from jesussuperstar at 10:36 pm on Nov. 22, 2008

Quote: from bladelancer17 at 10:32 pm on Nov. 22, 2008

hey we don't have filipino history month!!
 

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eto pa oh

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Hustisya para sa mga pilipinos!

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Quote: from Bud2400 at 12:51 am on Nov. 23, 2008

There is no reason why the history of blacks, or any other minorities, in the US shouldn't be taught in a regular history class. It's clearly an integral part of the social relatons in the US and ought to at least be touched upon during any regular US history course.
Yeah I agree here. I think it could be a bit more than "touched upon" though.


These history months for races and the like are stupid
I think the main reason is the history of nonwhites in America and the role they played used to be really ignored. Now it's not as true anymore.

For example when we teach the history of California its really impossible to not speak of the role of Mexico and the role of Chinese people and the role of Native Americans. But it used to be that nobody really talked abou it until not too long ago.

I guess now that ppl make more effort to speak about it then we don't need it as much.


the people who promote them would better spend their efforts promoting an increased emphasis on these topics in regular history classes.
yeah you're right.


As the US is becoming increasingly diverse ethnically and culturally, and as more non-European powers are rising to power, the history of non-European countries will become more relevant to the US as the US begins to take on its own form, increasingly separating itself from Europe as time goes on.
True again!  

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Quote: from jakelong at 9:17 am on Nov. 24, 2008

Hustisya para sa mga pilipinos!

ganun nga! (exactly!)

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Well I don't know if anyone noticed. there are a lot of white people that don't know a thing about the history of blacks. I mean even with the month they are like " Who?"

Black history month is the history of a group of people going from nothing to achieving things. White history is more recognized then black.

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Black history month is the history of a group of people going from nothing to achieving things.
A lot of their "Achievements" and "Leaders" are really fake and bullshit.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:44 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


Black history month is the history of a group of people going from nothing to achieving things.
A lot of their "Achievements" and "Leaders" are really fake and bullshit.

Um excuse yourself. Rude how you can just fall into that kind of crap without all the facts.

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Um excuse yourself. Rude how you can just fall into that kind of crap without all the facts.

Without the facts?

Here are some:
http://golivewire.com/forums/peer-yaptoay-support-a.html" target="_top">http://http://golivewire.com/forums/peer-yaptoay-support-a.html

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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Quote: from kidd rune at 4:16 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


Um excuse yourself. Rude how you can just fall into that kind of crap without all the facts.

Without the facts?

Here are some:
http://golivewire.com/forums/peer-yaptoay-support-a.html" target="_top">http://http://golivewire.com/forums/peer-yaptoay-support-a.html


I am aware but it only proves that they weren't the first ones to think of it. Though the black people who they say didn't really make those inventions kind of did. They may have not first invented it, but they created a better version of those things =/

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Quote: from Moonscar at 2:25 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Well I don't know if anyone noticed. there are a lot of white people that don't know a thing about the history of blacks. I mean even with the month they are like " Who?"
Yeah I think that's really the problem.

Most ppl know about MLK and maybe Malcolm X and then that's it. Some ppl know about Rosa Parks but not too many.

All tat most people know about blacks is through hip hop and rap. So that month allows ppl to get educated a bit about it.

Overall though I goot admit that people don't even know much about history in general, even white history or european history. They don't even care about it either.

Most that all ppl really care about is the video games and music and getting the latest tch. If you ask ppl in thestreets and about dates and even important ppl in the US history they are really clueless. And they know even less about the history of the rest of the world.

When I talk to my Nigerian friend who is educated in Africa with influence from Europe I can tell he really knows a lot. Not just about the history of Africa, but also the history of Europe and the Middle East.

The guy is really an expert. And thats not even his main field (he's more into pure math!).  

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I am aware but it only proves that they weren't the first ones to think of it.
Maybe they never thought of it. Maybe they saw it before - and "Improved" on it.


They may have not first invented it, but they created a better version of those things
You may say the created a better version - I may say the old version was better.

And a lot of those "Improvements" are one in a hundred.
The fire escape, I know, was patented in 200 different ways - how could the ONE made by a Black man be the best?

The gas mask is another. People say it was the first invented - which is easily disproven - so they say "Well, it was used in WWI!"

In reality, it wasn't. The Americans used French and British gas masks (being new to poisonous gas in warfare they were more advanced).

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Overall though I goot admit that people don't even know much about history in general, even white history or european history. They don't even care about it either.
Truth!
Nobody gives a shit about history anymore.

Coincidentally, the average 15 year old American is as smart as the average 12 year old American not too long ago.

=(

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Quote: from kidd rune at 4:58 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


I am aware but it only proves that they weren't the first ones to think of it.
Maybe they never thought of it. Maybe they saw it before - and "Improved" on it.


They may have not first invented it, but they created a better version of those things
You may say the created a better version - I may say the old version was better.

And a lot of those "Improvements" are one in a hundred.
The fire escape, I know, was patented in 200 different ways - how could the ONE made by a Black man be the best?

The gas mask is another. People say it was the first invented - which is easily disproven - so they say "Well, it was used in WWI!"

In reality, it wasn't. The Americans used French and British gas masks (being new to poisonous gas in warfare they were more advanced).


Sure you can say that the old versions are better.  Though it is close to fact that they advanced these inventions for the better if not invented. Besides there are many other black inventions that are not a hoax =/

Unless of course white people want to claim credit for them in the future......  

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