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The Matrix: Is reality an illusion?
Replies: 47Last Post Nov. 30, 2008 1:12am by Blackadder
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We are in a matrix. 11 33%
This is our reality. 12 36%
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Quote: from Colleen35 at 9:14 pm on Nov. 29, 2008

Given that we can't do anything to experience any sort of 'real' world beyond the reality we perceive, I don't think it much matters how real it is. It's all we've got, so we might as well deal.

deal with it how though?


Suicide as a solution was problematic for Nagel and Camus (neither wanted to argue that: in a world that makes no sense and deviod of purpose, we should just end it all by killing ourselves)




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9:06 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 | Joined: Oct. 2004 | Days Active: 1,119
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Why do we humans have to make things so complicated. You do know that if dreams and reality were different we wouldn't be talking about them as 2 different things. Simple as that, that's how you know. We can go on and on for hours about, how do we know the sun will rise tommarow, how do we know when we turn are backs on an object it's really still there. Those are things you just know. If you didn't you wouldn't have this question. Besides such ideas are neutral and serve no purpose unless they effect our actions. So how can we trust such ideas.

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Quote: from young22 at 5:13 am on Nov. 30, 2008

Why do we humans have to make things so complicated. You do know that if dreams and reality were different we wouldn't be talking about them as 2 different things. Simple as that, that's how you know.


Chuang Tzu in dream became a butterfly,
And the butterfly became Chuang Tzu at waking.
Which was the real—the butterfly or the man ?

Who can tell the end of the endless changes of things?
The water that flows into the depth of the distant sea
Returns anon to the shallows of a transparent stream.
The man, raising melons outside the green gate of the city,
Was once the Prince of the East Hill.
So must rank and riches vanish.
You know it, still you toil and toil,—what for?

Li Po




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