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*shrug* It's a fictional situation created for a movie, and we know that it's a fictional situation created for a movie. Not to mention that I tend to think that if it was real, more glitches would be noticed in the fake reality that was created. But hey, if you want to believe that you only exist in a little computer world, you go right ahead.

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but that is to miss the point.  

we know that the matrix is fiction, but the question is: should we suppose the necessary premises for it to be possibly true are true (eg. machines can think & make a matrix, put us within it, etc) then how can we be sure it is merely possibly true (e.g hypothetical) and not actually true?  

Dont come back here and tell me you have solved All descartes doubt by simply proclaiming "dont worry! its a fiction!"

and btw, the part you wrote in bold is inherently false, I wonder if you can work out why.

Post edited at 9:02 pm on Nov. 20, 2008 by Blackadder

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The truth is what money can be made from a lie.

That said, I really see no reason to believe that we're in some magical happy funtimes computer simulation and, what's more, no reason for anyone to psyche themselves out thinking that we are. There is zero evidence pointing in that direction; it's not even one of the top conspiracy theories of all time.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

This arguement could go on forever, it all depends on how superstitious the person is.

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It's inherently false because it helps your argument for it to be inherently false.

That said, I really see no reason to believe that we're in some magical happy funtimes computer simulation and, what's more, no reason for anyone to psyche themselves out thinking that we are. There is zero evidence pointing in that direction; it's not even one of the top conspiracy theories of all time.

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for fuck sake!  

why must you be so fucking difficualt!?

haven't you ever heard of Epistomology? I guess not, otherwise you wouldn't speak in such an ignorant way.

Educate thyself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditations_on_First_Philosophy    (meditation I being the most important).

It's inherently false because it helps your argument for it to be inherently false.

sigh....

how about  I'll just tell you the fucking awnser?

....if knowledge is posteriori, how could we ever know what a "computer glitch" is?  

how could you ever know what "Red" looks like simply by reference to the colours you can see? (e.g could you describe "red" to a colourblind man by refering to how similiar/disimiliar it is to pink/blue?

hence, the statement is inherently false

it's not even one of the top conspiracy theories of all time

I am not making fucking conspiracy theories, to think it as such is a grave error. We are making a philosophical enquiry, not some crazy UFO/Area 51 horse-shit

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The truth is what money can be made from a lie.

Chill.

If you want to think that we're in a computer, good for you. Have fun with that.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

Also, look up "Solipsism." It'll help.

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"All I know, is that I know nothing." - Socrates

This theory could be just as good as the Bible, which is why some people believe in the Bible, some don't and some just don't care.

Yeah, we may have alot of questions answered especially psychologically and scientifically which could deny much of the question at hand, but remember that there was a time when we had the wrong answers to these questions.

The Universal laws, the Universe's origins, all of these things just scream (at least, to me) that this Universe has been designed or is some kind of grandeur simulation/program.  

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Genetics is fate. Change our genes, achieve free will.

We THINK that everything about the world isn't real, because you simply cant prove 100% that You, I, and everyone are real. There is one exception and that is ones mind. That is the only thing that is definetly real to oneself. So in a way yes, but no.

But thats just me

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So why did I do it? I could offer a million answers, all false.
The truth is that I'm a bad person, but that's going to change.
I'm going to change.

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Is this really an efficient way to tell it apart?

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No.

But what else do we have to go off of aside from our own sensory and perception?

If we open the can of "what-if's", then really anything could be possible.  That's why the Matrix is good movie fodder....it's fun to think about but kind of silly to seriously consider.

http://www.simulation-argument.com/matrix.html

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Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful.It's the transition
that's troublesome.   --Isaac Asimov