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For those of you who want to ban gay marriage...
Replies: 68Last Post Nov. 20, 2008 4:01pm by Shogun villimax
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Choice Votes Percent  
Yes. 8 17%
No.  I only want to protect marriage by taking away other people's rights.  Not my own. 2 4%
I'm not an idiot, so I'm not in favor of banning either one. 37 78%
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Quote: from greatescape11 at 10:41 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

Quote: from sykexl at 12:28 am on Nov. 18, 2008

Ban gay marriage? Sorry buddy, the legalization of it in the first place was unconstitutional. I personally don't care one way or the other myself but that fact remains very much true.

Please explain how the legalization was unconstitutional.


No thanks.

I suggest you read the constitution. I then suggest you look into how it was legalized. Then I suggest you apply some logic. It is so much better when you figure these things out for yourself.


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Quote: from sykexl at 12:48 am on Nov. 18, 2008

Quote: from greatescape11 at 10:41 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

Quote: from sykexl at 12:28 am on Nov. 18, 2008

Ban gay marriage? Sorry buddy, the legalization of it in the first place was unconstitutional. I personally don't care one way or the other myself but that fact remains very much true.
 

 Please explain how the legalization was unconstitutional.


No thanks.

I suggest you read the constitution. I then suggest you look into how it was legalized. Then I suggest you apply some logic. It is so much better when you figure these things out for yourself.



hahaha.

Im quite familiar with the constitution, thanks.  I was curious as to how you were going to argue that giving equal rights to all American citizens is unconstitutional.  Or how you were going to argue that seperation of church and state is unconstitutional.

Unless you want to take the "state's rights" angle, but that only is useful against the legal technicality of it, not the general idea.


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Quote: from greatescape11 at 10:56 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

Im quite familiar with the constitution, thanks

Apparently not. I'm not here to argue or to convince you I'm right, which is why I suggested you figure it out for yourself.


Unless you want to take the "state's rights" angle, but that only is useful against the legal technicality of it, not the general idea.
I do believe I made it perfectly clear I could care less one way or another and that I am indeed only interested in the legal aspect of it.

To quote myself since you apparently didn't read and/or comprehend it the first time:

Quote: from sykexl at 10:28 pm on Nov. 17, 2008


Ban gay marriage? Sorry buddy, the legalization of it in the first place was unconstitutional. I personally don't care one way or the other myself but that fact remains very much true.

I suppose it doesn't really need to be said, but to save my self further hassle, I am only talking about California.

Post edited at 11:26 pm on Nov. 17, 2008 by sykexl


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Quote: from gronk at 7:47 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

Quote: from tell me again at 5:25 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

Quote: from gronk at 10:23 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

Quote: from greatescape11 at 5:18 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

Quote: from gronk at 12:15 am on Nov. 18, 2008

marriage needs to be taken more seriously
   

  Limiting it to a man and a woman is clearly the way to accomplish this.  Those homosexuals are far too giddy and irrational to take something like marriage seriously.    

 


  thats a bit of a generalization

  I know statistically homos are more likely to be promiscuous.
  on average they have 4 times as many sexual partners as heteros


 

 They don't have to marry everyone they fuck.


no but marriage is meant to be about monogomy, people who are sexually promiscuous, shouldnt get married if they cant commit to one.  

I have no tolerance for adultery, nor should anyone else



yeah someone who is casually promiscuous certainly couldn't ever commit...
say, i hear females in new zealand are the most promiscuous than any other female in the world, ban marriage in NZ?????????

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Quote: from sykexl at 1:19 am on Nov. 18, 2008

Quote: from greatescape11 at 10:56 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

Im quite familiar with the constitution, thanks

Apparently not. I'm not here to argue or to convince you I'm right, which is why I suggested you figure it out for yourself.


Unless you want to take the "state's rights" angle, but that only is useful against the legal technicality of it, not the general idea.
I do believe I made it perfectly clear I could care less one way or another and that I am indeed only interested in the legal aspect of it.

To quote myself since you apparently didn't read and/or comprehend it the first time:

Quote: from sykexl at 10:28 pm on Nov. 17, 2008


Ban gay marriage? Sorry buddy, the legalization of it in the first place was unconstitutional. I personally don't care one way or the other myself but that fact remains very much true.

I suppose it doesn't really need to be said, but to save my self further hassle, I am only talking about California.


Translation:  I don't know what to say so I'm going to repeat myself in hopes that you go away, and dodge all questions and arguments directed at me.

lollllll


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Quote: from greatescape11 at 11:35 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

Quote: from sykexl at 1:19 am on Nov. 18, 2008

Quote: from greatescape11 at 10:56 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

Im quite familiar with the constitution, thanks  
 

 

 Apparently not. I'm not here to argue or to convince you I'm right, which is why I suggested you figure it out for yourself.  

 


Unless you want to take the "state's rights" angle, but that only is useful against the legal technicality of it, not the general idea.
I do believe I made it perfectly clear I could care less one way or another and that I am indeed only interested in the legal aspect of it.  

 To quote myself since you apparently didn't read and/or comprehend it the first time:  

 Quote: from sykexl at 10:28 pm on Nov. 17, 2008


Ban gay marriage? Sorry buddy, the legalization of it in the first place was unconstitutional. I personally don't care one way or the other myself but that fact remains very much true.
 

 I suppose it doesn't really need to be said, but to save my self further hassle, I am only talking about California.


Translation: I don't know what to say so I'm going to repeat myself in hopes that you go away, and dodge all questions and arguments directed at me.

lollllll


Actually an accurate translation would be: I think you are too ignorant to possibly understand me so I'll repeat myself in hopes that you go away. You were close though.


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Are you serious?

All you've said so far is "I'm not going to explain my point of view because you should figure it out for yourself."

It's almost funny.  And then I realize you're actually serious about this.


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Here we go, take three:

Quote: from sykexl at 10:28 pm on Nov. 17, 2008


Ban gay marriage? Sorry buddy, the legalization of it in the first place was unconstitutional. I personally don't care one way or the other myself but that fact remains very much true.

How do you not understand something so simple as I don't personally care about gays being allowed to marry? Gay marriage wouldn't bother me in the slightest. What I care about is the way in which it was legalized in California. I don't know how I can possibly make that anymore clear.

....your lack of comprehension skills is truly a force to be reckoned with.

Post edited at 12:15 am on Nov. 18, 2008 by sykexl


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haha I understood your post buddy.  I was simply asking you to explain why you think legalizing it in CA was unconstitutional and so far you haven't come up with anything.

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And I'm simply telling you to figure it out yourself.


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You should try out for your school's debate team.  You would rock everyone's socks off

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Perhaps. However, this isn't a debate. I don't need to turn everything into one while it seems you do. Tell me, why are you so interested in proving yourself to be right?

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You are a rather strange individual.

I just wanted to know what exactly you found unconstitutional about the legalization of gay marriage.  I really don't think that's too much to ask for.  Apparently so.

Why I am still replying to you?  rofl.
Maybe because I find your 'logic' funny.


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Quote: from greatescape11 at 12:25 am on Nov. 18, 2008

I really don't think that's too much to ask for. Apparently so.
Don't worry about it, I forgive you.


Why I am still replying to you? rofl.
Maybe because I find your 'logic' funny.

Entertainment is key.

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Quote: from Seafercat at 6:21 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

Quote: from gronk at 7:47 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

Quote: from tell me again at 5:25 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

Quote: from gronk at 10:23 pm on Nov. 17, 2008

Quote: from greatescape11 at 5:18 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

Quote: from gronk at 12:15 am on Nov. 18, 2008

marriage needs to be taken more seriously

   Limiting it to a man and a woman is clearly the way to accomplish this. Those homosexuals are far too giddy and irrational to take something like marriage seriously.

   


   

  thats a bit of a generalization    

  I know statistically homos are more likely to be promiscuous.    
  on average they have 4 times as many sexual partners as heteros


  They don't have to marry everyone they fuck.


 

 no but marriage is meant to be about  monogomy, people who are sexually promiscuous, shouldnt get married if they cant commit to one.

 I have no tolerance for adultery, nor should anyone else



yeah someone who is casually promiscuous certainly couldn't ever commit...  
say, i hear females in new zealand are the most promiscuous than any other female in
the world, ban marriage in NZ?????????

stop committing the straw person fallacy

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Goodbye LW! 2 things to leave you with- 1 the points dont matter
2. There should be able to have topics within groups


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