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American Indian Tribe rejects diversity
Replies: 11Last Post Nov. 25, 2008 8:05pm by kidd rune
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Meskwaki tribal officials want to eject a Sioux Indian from their land, so that his house can go to a member of another tribe - the Meskwaki tribe.

He's married to a Meskwaki woman.

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Tribal officials claim that James Ironshell, who is Rosebud Sioux, has violated a Meskwaki law that prohibits a non-Meskwaki man from sharing a settlement home with a Meswkaki woman.

Ironshell, 48, and his wife of 13 years, Eloise, who is Meskwaki, say the ban amounts to racial discrimination.

“Not only is it saddening, it’s really confusing,” Ironshell said. “This is 2008.”

Ironshell’s attorney, Darrell Meyer, says the case raises the question of whether the U.S. Constitution provides the same equal rights protections to American Indians as it does other citizens.

Meyer says it does, but tribal officials disagree.

Raymond Cross, a University of Montana law professor who studies American Indian rights, said the U.S. Constitution doesn’t apply to tribal governments.

“The reason for that is a practical one,” Cross said. “Tribal governments were not part of the plan of union that formed the U.S. in 1787.”

As a result, most tribes make and enforce their own rules.

The Meskwakis don’t ban marriage outside the tribe but do ban a Meskwaki woman from sharing a settlement home with a man who isn’t Meskwaki.

Roger Sanders, who heads the Meskwaki police department, said settlement homes are owned and assigned by the tribe and not individuals.


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That is completely ridiculous it shouldn't be their choice who he marries. Geez.

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Wow, poor indians.  Lol!  That is just funny and sad at the same time!  
That sounds socialist too.  Homes assigned by the tribe and not individuals.  Hmmm...

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Quote: from StopXXwatch at 5:19 pm on Nov. 18, 2008

That is completely ridiculous it shouldn't be their choice who he marries. Geez.
It isn't their choice - he married her.

He just doesn't get to live with his tribe.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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It is a different tribe, they are just following the old ways!

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Quote: from Kimkyok at 11:49 pm on Nov. 22, 2008

It is a different tribe, they are just following the old ways!
Old ways?

What about the old ways of Europe - where you were loyal to your volk.

What about "The King of the English" instead of "The King of England"?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:03 pm on Nov. 23, 2008

Quote: from Kimkyok at 11:49 pm on Nov. 22, 2008

It is a different tribe, they are just following the old ways!
Old ways?

What about the old ways of Europe - where you were loyal to your volk.

What about "The King of the English" instead of "The King of England"?


I know nothing about Europeans we're dealing with Amerindians.

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Quote: from Kimkyok at 12:23 am on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 2:03 pm on Nov. 23, 2008

Quote: from Kimkyok at 11:49 pm on Nov. 22, 2008

It is a different tribe, they are just following the old ways!
Old ways?  

 What about the old ways of Europe - where you were loyal to your volk.  

 What about "The King of the English" instead of "The King of England"?


I know nothing about Europeans we're dealing with Amerindians.

If THEY can follow the old ways - why can't Whites?

If Whites wanted to unify by race instead of boundaries that are human created - we'd be RACIST.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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Quote: from kidd rune at 2:40 am on Nov. 26, 2008

Quote: from Kimkyok at 12:23 am on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from kidd rune at 2:03 pm on Nov. 23, 2008

Quote: from Kimkyok at 11:49 pm on Nov. 22, 2008

It is a different tribe, they are just following the old ways!
Old ways?

  What about the old ways of Europe - where you were loyal to your volk.

  What about "The King of the English" instead of "The King of England"?


I know nothing about Europeans we're dealing with Amerindians.

If THEY can follow the old ways - why can't Whites?

If Whites wanted to unify by race instead of boundaries that are human created - we'd be RACIST.


Yes it would be racist, with this issue its not racist because it has to do with tribes, they arent of a different race. The tribe obviously had bad history so they arent going to associate with each other!

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Yes it would be racist, with this issue its not racist because it has to do with tribes, they arent of a different race. The tribe obviously had bad history so they arent going to associate with each other!
Other races have bad histories too...

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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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