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Replies: 84Last Post Dec. 3, 2008 7:18pm by exceedinglyrare
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Quote: from draakprinses at 5:06 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

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Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:14 am on Dec. 1, 2008

Funny. Thats the same with religious people
 

 surely religious people are saving your soul. what's the gain in converting someone in to an atheists.

 Don't say he will be smarter, as everyone knows that's not true


You can't prove that, so it's pointless to try and force it on someone.


but, when you think about it, they are trying to help you. that what i was going for. i'm not defending forcing religion on people, just giving the reason theist do it  

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Quote: from King kong at 11:28 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from draakprinses at 5:06 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from King kong at 9:17 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:14 am on Dec. 1, 2008

Funny. Thats the same with religious people

  surely religious people are saving your soul. what's the gain in converting someone in to an atheists.    

  Don't say he will be smarter, as everyone knows that's not true


 

 You can't prove that, so it's pointless to try and force it on someone.


but, when you think about it, they are trying to help you. that what i was going for. i'm not defending forcing religion on people, just giving the reason theist do it


That's a bullshit excuse. No stranger gives a fuck about my sould, as they shouldn't. And no brainwashed sheep are my friends.

It's about power. Control. Plain and simple. People crave power.

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Quote: from draakprinses at 12:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

That's a bullshit excuse. No stranger gives a fuck about my sould, as they shouldn't. And no brainwashed sheep are my friends.  

It's about power. Control. Plain and simple. People crave power.


You know, it's pretty clear that you're angry at a few people in the church who were twats to you. Don't let that anger take over your perception of people who genuinely do care about your soul, even if they don't know you. Judging them and saying that they want power over you is just as bad as them saying that you're going to hell for your sexual preferences--it's a horrible thing to do, either way.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 10:18 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from sophos at 9:50 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from Wilder at 5:15 am on Dec. 2, 2008

The dictionary tends to do an imperfect job of defining religious terms.
Stop trying to redefine words just because you can't clearly define your beliefs.

You're embarrassing yourself.


Irony.  

So glad you agree.

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I don't. I just find you ironic. And amusing.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:02 am on Dec. 3, 2008

I don't. I just find you ironic. And amusing.
Glad to amuse, nonetheless. And do try to learn the proper usage of the word irony.

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Quote: from sophos at 1:12 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:02 am on Dec. 3, 2008

I don't. I just find you ironic. And amusing.
Glad to amuse, nonetheless. And do try to learn the proper usage of the word irony.

*pats* Silly little troll.

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 11:54 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from draakprinses at 12:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

That's a bullshit excuse. No stranger gives a fuck about my sould, as they shouldn't. And no brainwashed sheep are my friends.

 It's about power. Control. Plain and simple. People crave power.


You know, it's pretty clear that you're angry at a few people in the church who were twats to you. Don't let that anger take over your perception of people who genuinely do care about your soul, even if they don't know you. Judging them and saying that they want power over you is just as bad as them saying that you're going to hell for your sexual preferences--it's a horrible thing to do, either way.


I know it's clear, I'm not denying it, heh. I'm just tired of all the shit that people put each other through, hiding behind a facade of righteousness. I know, not all Christians are like that. But the ones that are are the ones in power. They are the ones in control. Who wouldn't be pissed about that?

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:23 am on Dec. 3, 2008

Quote: from sophos at 1:12 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 1:02 am on Dec. 3, 2008

I don't. I just find you ironic. And amusing.
Glad to amuse, nonetheless. And do try to learn the proper usage of the word irony.

*pats* Silly little troll.

Good comeback.

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Quote: from draakprinses at 1:25 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 11:54 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from draakprinses at 12:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

That's a bullshit excuse. No stranger gives a fuck about my sould, as they shouldn't. And no brainwashed sheep are my friends.    

  It's about power. Control. Plain and simple. People crave power.


 

 You know, it's pretty clear that you're angry at a few people in the church who were twats to you. Don't let that anger take over your perception of people who genuinely do care about your soul, even if they don't know you. Judging them and saying that they want power over you is just as bad as them saying that you're going to hell for your sexual preferences--it's a horrible thing to do, either way.


I know it's clear, I'm not denying it, heh. I'm just tired of all the shit that people put each other through, hiding behind a facade of righteousness. I know, not all Christians are like that. But the ones that are are the ones in power. They are the ones in control. Who wouldn't be pissed about that?


It is frustrating, I agree. And it's not even all of the ones in control, either, just the loudest ones. As frustrating as it is for you, it's doubly frustrating for me, as these people are the public face of a faith I hold very dear to my heart, and I hate seeing it so mistreated.

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Quote: from draakprinses at 1:25 am on Dec. 3, 2008

I know it's clear, I'm not denying it, heh. I'm just tired of all the shit that people put each other through, hiding behind a facade of righteousness. I know, not all Christians are like that. But the ones that are are the ones in power. They are the ones in control. Who wouldn't be pissed about that?
If such a faith has bred such a people, it says very little about said faith.

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Quote: from draakprinses at 10:51 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from King kong at 11:28 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from draakprinses at 5:06 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from King kong at 9:17 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:14 am on Dec. 1, 2008

Funny. Thats the same with religious people
   

  surely religious people are saving your soul. what's the gain in converting someone in to an atheists.

  Don't say he will be smarter, as everyone knows that's not true


  You can't prove that, so it's pointless to try and force it on someone.


 

 but, when you think about it, they are trying to help you. that what i was going for. i'm not defending forcing religion on people, just giving the reason theist do it  


That's a bullshit excuse. No stranger gives a fuck about my sould, as they shouldn't. And no brainwashed sheep are my friends.  

It's about power. Control. Plain and simple. People crave power.


Do you really believe that? That no one who genuinely thinks that you are doomed to an eternity of suffering wishes that they could help you?

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Quote: from Wilder at 12:49 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from draakprinses at 10:51 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from King kong at 11:28 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from draakprinses at 5:06 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from King kong at 9:17 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 2:14 am on Dec. 1, 2008

Funny. Thats the same with religious people

   surely religious people are saving your soul. what's the gain in converting someone in to an atheists.      

   Don't say he will be smarter, as everyone knows that's not true


   

  You can't prove that, so it's pointless to try and force it on someone.


  but, when you think about it, they are trying to help you. that what i was going for. i'm not defending forcing religion on people, just giving the reason theist do it


 

 That's a bullshit excuse. No stranger gives a fuck about my sould, as they shouldn't. And no brainwashed sheep are my friends.

 It's about power. Control. Plain and simple. People crave power.


Do you really believe that? That no one who genuinely thinks that you are doomed to an eternity of suffering wishes that they could help you?


I have never encountered compassion from people like that.

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Quote: from draakprinses at 1:25 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 11:54 am on Dec. 2, 2008

Quote: from draakprinses at 12:51 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

That's a bullshit excuse. No stranger gives a fuck about my sould, as they shouldn't. And no brainwashed sheep are my friends.

  It's about power. Control. Plain and simple. People crave power.


  You know, it's pretty clear that you're angry at a few people in the church who were twats to you. Don't let that anger take over your perception of people who genuinely do care about your soul, even if they don't know you. Judging them and saying that they want power over you is just as bad as them saying that you're going to hell for your sexual preferences--it's a horrible thing to do, either way.


 

 I know it's clear, I'm not denying it, heh. I'm just tired of all the shit that people put each other through, hiding behind a facade of righteousness. I know, not all Christians are like that. But the ones that are are the ones in power. They are the ones in control. Who wouldn't be pissed about that?


It is frustrating, I agree. And it's not even all of the ones in control, either, just the loudest ones. As frustrating as it is for you, it's doubly frustrating for me, as these people are the public face of a faith I hold very dear to my heart, and I hate seeing it so mistreated.


Oh I bet. Because even though you aren't of the uncompassionate, power-hungry kind, unfortunately you still have to deal with that stigma.

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Quote: from draakprinses at 8:41 pm on Dec. 2, 2008

Oh I bet. Because even though you aren't of the uncompassionate, power-hungry kind, unfortunately you still have to deal with that stigma.

That's the thing that sucks the most about it...when you honestly just want to love people, and they basically throw it back in your face and tell you that no, you don't actually love them, you're just power-hungry.

Kinda sucks.

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