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Leviticus, AKA the Holiness Code, no longer applies to today. St. Paul and Jesus Christ himself said that it does not apply to humanity anymore. Further more it was written for the Jews, not the Christians. Meaning it is a sin for Jews to do that, not for Christians however. Also when in the Bible it says "Abomination", that is a mistranslation. The Hebrew word for it only means a sin for that period in time. Meaning that today it could not be a sin. Also the Bible does not understand homosexuality the way we do today. We know that it is not a choice, irreversible, and a part of that person.

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Quote: from MischaELLE at 8:18 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

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STFU faggot.

   
 



 
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Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:16 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

I hate people that lose something in a democratic fashion and then proceed to black list and harass/attack anyone who didn't vote their way. I really don't see why gays shouldn't have marriage but the shit they did after they lost is fucking retarded.
You should really educate yourself on both sides. The yes on prop 8 campaign was black mailing companies that were willing to help the gay activists. They also got support from out of state and churches. How democratic is that?

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Quote: from Joep0113 at 9:16 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

I hate people that lose something in a democratic fashion and then proceed to black list and harass/attack anyone who didn't vote their way. I really don't see why gays shouldn't have marriage but the shit they did after they lost is fucking retarded.

So what would you suggest?

Just sit back, shut up, act like good little house gays, and wait for the idiotic, bible thumping, masses to decide that we deserve to be treated as equals?

Fuck that.

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Quote: from justin1990rm at 10:18 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Joep0113 at 11:16 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

I hate people that lose something in a democratic fashion and then proceed to black list and harass/attack anyone who didn't vote their way. I really don't see why gays shouldn't have marriage but the shit they did after they lost is fucking retarded.

this this this this


Like what, being fucking pissed off? I don't blame them. They've never stooped to the level of homophobes(i.e., numerous murders), so I truly don't blame them. They have ever single right and reason to be pissed.

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i think its so stupid, back when jesus was around homosexuallity was a common and accepted practice among many, there is a reason the old definition of gay is happy.
i say let them marry, i'd ratter see a man and a man get married till the day they die then a man and a woman get married then divorced within a year
hayyylynn's theory is correct

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Quote: from Baron Samedi at 11:20 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Joep0113 at 9:16 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

I hate people that lose something in a democratic fashion and then proceed to black list and harass/attack anyone who didn't vote their way. I really don't see why gays shouldn't have marriage but the shit they did after they lost is fucking retarded.

So what would you suggest?

Just sit back, shut up, act like good little house gays, and wait for the idiotic, bible thumping, masses to decide that we deserve to be treated as equals?

Fuck that.


This ^

I also think the civil union thing is retarded. Supposedly it's the same thing as marriage, it's a legal thing. Why not just call it marriage then?
Fuck if gays have to have 2nd best with a "civil union" then just ban gay unions completely instead of sugar coating that shit.

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Quote: from hayyylynn at 9:16 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Marry who you want.
My theory is "Happiness is the key to life"

I'm not sure you really grasp the problem here...

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Quote: from asia lover at 8:20 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:16 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

I hate people that lose something in a democratic fashion and then proceed to black list and harass/attack anyone who didn't vote their way. I really don't see why gays shouldn't have marriage but the shit they did after they lost is fucking retarded.
You should really educate yourself on both sides. The yes on prop 8 campaign was black mailing companies that were willing to help the gay activists. They also got support from out of state and churches. How democratic is that?

Because two wrongs make a right eh? Really there is no way in hell that you won't have gay marriage within the next decade. Just sit back and be patient, doing things like that will not help you any.

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Quote: from draakprinses at 11:21 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from justin1990rm at 10:18 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Joep0113 at 11:16 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

I hate people that lose something in a democratic fashion and then proceed to black list and harass/attack anyone who didn't vote their way. I really don't see why gays shouldn't have marriage but the shit they did after they lost is fucking retarded.
 

 this this this this


Like what, being fucking pissed off? I don't blame them. They've never stooped to the level of homophobes(i.e., numerous murders), so I truly don't blame them. They have ever single right and reason to be pissed.


i support gay marriage, but i just support democracy more. i guess they can be angry if they want


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Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:22 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from asia lover at 8:20 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:16 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

I hate people that lose something in a democratic fashion and then proceed to black list and harass/attack anyone who didn't vote their way. I really don't see why gays shouldn't have marriage but the shit they did after they lost is fucking retarded.
You should really educate yourself on both sides. The yes on prop 8 campaign was black mailing companies that were willing to help the gay activists. They also got support from out of state and churches. How democratic is that?

Because two wrongs make a right eh? Really there is no way in hell that you won't have gay marriage within the next decade. Just sit back and be patient, doing things like that will not help you any.

that is not my point. My point is that they (yes on 8) were also doing wrong so don't just throw it at the gays. Plus they were stripped of rights, and deemed as second rate citizens. I am actually glad it didn't erupt into anything worse.
And that is true also, that marriage is really close in their grasp, all they are doing is allowing the homophobic community to have an excuse to not let them marry.

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Quote: from Baron Samedi at 8:20 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Joep0113 at 9:16 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

I hate people that lose something in a democratic fashion and then proceed to black list and harass/attack anyone who didn't vote their way. I really don't see why gays shouldn't have marriage but the shit they did after they lost is fucking retarded.

So what would you suggest?

Just sit back, shut up, act like good little house gays, and wait for the idiotic, bible thumping, masses to decide that we deserve to be treated as equals?

Fuck that.


Right so if more people thought like you every time a political party lost control of the White House they'd be a civil war. And that last bit sounds really familiar for some reason, isn't that from some movie only instead of "Good little house gays" its "good little house niggers".  Once again im not for Prop 8, im bisexual i see absolutely no reason why gay marriage shouldn't be allowed. It will be eventually, America is moving out of the close minded society that we've been for quite some time, just have patience. Like i said in my other post doing shit like that will not help at all, its just angry people blowing off steam the wrong way.

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Quote: from asia lover at 8:26 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:22 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from asia lover at 8:20 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:16 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

I hate people that lose something in a democratic fashion and then proceed to black list and harass/attack anyone who didn't vote their way. I really don't see why gays shouldn't have marriage but the shit they did after they lost is fucking retarded.
You should really educate yourself on both sides. The yes on prop 8 campaign was black mailing companies that were willing to help the gay activists. They also got support from out of state and churches. How democratic is that?

Because two wrongs make a right eh? Really there is no way in hell that you won't have gay marriage within the next decade. Just sit back and be patient, doing things like that will not help you any.

that is not my point. My point is that they (yes on 8) were also doing wrong so don't just throw it at the gays. Plus they were stripped of rights, and deemed as second rate citizens. I am actually glad it didn't erupt into anything worse.  
And that is true also, that marriage is really close in their grasp, all they are doing is allowing the homophobic community to have an excuse to not let them marry.

Exactly, but the sad bit is the news has the ability to demonize the homosexual population and make the heterosexual side seem like saints. No way in hell Prop 8 will stay in place, hell i wouldn't be surprised if someone took it to the Supreme Court to challenge it . We just gotta sit and wait sadly :/

im bisexual btw, didn't want to come off as a straight guy just bashing gays for anyone who's just skimming over my posts picking out the anti-gay stuff.

Post edited at 8:34 pm on Nov. 30, 2008 by Joep0113

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Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:31 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from asia lover at 8:26 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:22 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from asia lover at 8:20 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:16 pm on Nov. 30, 2008

I hate people that lose something in a democratic fashion and then proceed to black list and harass/attack anyone who didn't vote their way. I really don't see why gays shouldn't have marriage but the shit they did after they lost is fucking retarded.
You should really educate yourself on both sides. The yes on prop 8 campaign was black mailing companies that were willing to help the gay activists. They also got support from out of state and churches. How democratic is that?

Because two wrongs make a right eh? Really there is no way in hell that you won't have gay marriage within the next decade. Just sit back and be patient, doing things like that will not help you any.

that is not my point. My point is that they (yes on 8) were also doing wrong so don't just throw it at the gays. Plus they were stripped of rights, and deemed as second rate citizens. I am actually glad it didn't erupt into anything worse.  
 And that is true also, that marriage is really close in their grasp, all they are doing is allowing the homophobic community to have an excuse to not let them marry.

Exactly, but the sad bit is the news has the ability to demonize the homosexual population and make the heterosexual side seem like saints. No way in hell Prop 8 will stay in place, hell i wouldn't be surprised if someone took it to the Supreme Court to challenge it . We just gotta sit and wait sadly :/


they are.
currently the supreme court has accepted to take 3 different cases each challenging the yes on prop 8 decision saying its discrimination, goes against the civil rights act and alot more.

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i dont agree with the banning on gay marriage in california. two consenting adults should be allow to marry whom ever they chose regardless of gender. its discrimnation and should not have passed. people against gay marriage are hypocrites.. how can you be against gay marriage but be ok with divorce? they dont want redefine marriage between a man and woman they just want the same benefits as opposite sex couple.. marriage license! issued by the government not the church!!

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