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Holocaust V.S. Palestine tragedy.
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Quote: from Savren at 10:55 am on Dec. 30, 2008

Quote: from jakelong at 12:26 am on Dec. 30, 2008

well the OP is abit of a troll anyway but I gave some comparison in picture here.  

 http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yenebye-support-ta.html#65  

 The scale and tragedy is not the same but there are a few similar things. I think thats a bit disturbing. Its not just a few haywire bombs we're talking about.  

 Its using bulldozers to raze down buildings where ppl live just to root out a few insurgents  

 Its building walls to segreagte adnd punish a whole population for the crimes of a few  

 Its threatening old men,women and children to impose power on them  

 Its taking lands illegally and against UN rules.  

 I mean not all Palestinians are innocent sure but Israel sure fucked up in the way it is handling things.



They are NOT comparable. Period. The suggestion of such is outrageous. Far far worse things have happened than whats going on in Israel/Palestine. All the African people who have endured genocides, the people of Ukraine thanks to Stalin, the Nanking Massacre, Armenia, Rwana, Darfur. Give it up already.

The Jews have suffered as much as any other groups of people have. Constantly in history they've been scape goats for national problems, harrassed, murdered and by the Nazi's "exterminated". Now the Jews are PROTECTING themselves against a TERRORIST militant group who started the missile attacks and broke the cease-fire.

Whether you agree or disagree with how thew Israeli's have operated since the founding of the state, its stupid to imply that this is genocidal. I don't know, maybe it just goes to show how Anti-Semites around the world will unite against them when they try to freaking defend themselves.

I'm tired of seeing these pictures to make me feel sympathetic to the Palestinians and start hating Israel. Its propaganda through photos. Like another poster said, lets see some pics of the Israeli women and children who have been blown up, with their guts splattered by Palestinian suicide bombers.

Do I enjoy seeing innocents die? Of course not. Do I support the Israeli retaliation against a terrorist group like Hamas? Hell yes.


A refugee camp.

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,672197,00.jpg

Wait. That one is full of israelis not palestinians.

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Quote: from carracer at 7:31 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

Quote: from whoisabs at 3:59 pm on Dec. 29, 2008


But most of those calling for an end to Israel want to cleanse all the Jews living there.
 

 You mean such as Iran who has a thriving Jewish population within its own borders?  

 Eat shit zionist liar.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/opinion/l04mumbai.html

You mean the continuing hatred towards jews and others around the world?
Even in the most current media"?

Eat shit racist pig.  


Poor pathetic excuse for a human can't seem to tell the difference between Iran and India.  Keep trying though.

Funny how I'm the 'racist' when you are the one who supports the ethnic cleansing of semitic peoples by european zionists and the hilarious theory of the 'jewish race'.

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Quote: from carracer at 7:35 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

A refugee camp.

http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,672197,00.jpg

Wait. That one is full of israelis not palestinians.


Palestinians and other semitic people don't have blonde hair, unlike the girl who is front and center of that photo.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 7:50 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

Quote: from carracer at 7:35 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

A refugee camp.  

 http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,672197,00.jpg  

 Wait. That one is full of israelis not palestinians.


Palestinians and other semitic people don't have blonde hair, unlike the girl who is front and center of that photo.



thats an assumption that has been disproven over and over again.

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I want to close my account..FOREVER. LW sucks.

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me too

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ya..whatever...i dont know what to say anymore...

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Quote: from whoisabs at 7:50 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

Quote: from carracer at 7:35 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

A refugee camp.  

 http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,672197,00.jpg  

 Wait. That one is full of israelis not palestinians.


Palestinians and other semitic people don't have blonde hair, unlike the girl who is front and center of that photo.


Yea right.
Because no Palestinians have ever married people from europe.
By the way, I said that the refugee camp in the picture was israeli. Not Palestinian.

It looks like the racist/ radical can't read.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 7:48 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

Quote: from carracer at 7:31 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

Quote: from whoisabs at 3:59 pm on Dec. 29, 2008


But most of those calling for an end to Israel want to cleanse all the Jews living there.

  You mean such as Iran who has a thriving Jewish population within its own borders?

  Eat shit zionist liar.


 

 http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/opinion/l04mumbai.html  

 You mean the continuing hatred towards jews and others around the world?  
 Even in the most current media"?  

 Eat shit racist pig.

 


Poor pathetic excuse for a human can't seem to tell the difference between Iran and India. Keep trying though.

Funny how I'm the 'racist' when you are the one who supports the ethnic cleansing of semitic peoples by european zionists and the hilarious theory of the 'jewish race'.


" Poor pathetic excuse for a human can't seem to tell the difference between Iran and India.  Keep trying though. "

And you can't seem to be able to see what kind of point I was making.
You can't seem to realize that the majority of Iranian jews went to israel because they were being persecuted, and that jewish iranians are still a minority.

"You are the one who supports the ethnic cleansing of semitic peoples by european zionists "

Says who?
I never said I supported that.
I advocate against violence.
I support arab integration into israel, which by the way, does happen.
There are many muslim israelis who are peaceful and live within Israel's borders.
I have nothing against peaceful arabs in israel, as long as they are peaceful.

The idea of "ethnic cleansing" never ever crossed my mind, and if you think it did then you are deranged.

Talk to kidd rune.
He is a disgusting white nationalist who believes in ethnic cleansing.
He can explain those repulsive concepts to you.

"and the hilarious theory of the 'jewish race'."

Tell me what you know about jewish genealogy.
I can bet it's very little.



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Quote: from Savren at 10:55 am on Dec. 30, 2008

They are NOT comparable. Period. The suggestion of such is outrageous. Far far worse things have happened than whats going on in Israel/Palestine.
You probably missed the part when I said scale wasn't the same.

But don't you think its a bit scary that KNOWING everything they have suffered and their ancestors have suffered that Israelis would feel ok with building a wall to segregate themselves and allow soldiers to terrorize kids and send bulldozers to raze down homes of innocent ppl just because maybe there are some bad guys inside?

Don't you think its a bit disturbing that in order to maintain things in Israel ppl have to threat Palestinians like they are subhumans and find it justified to punish all civilians because some of them are bad?

I would think that those who have family that suffered through the Holocaust would really feel bad about doing that.


Do I enjoy seeing innocents die? Of course not. Do I support the Israeli retaliation against a terrorist group like Hamas? Hell yes.
But you see when you start accepting the killing and mistreatment of civilians then you are losing the moral ground. When you accept that its ok that kids and pregnant moms and ppl and hospital are just necessary victims then you lose the view that they are human and that their life is important. It's a dangerous to think this way.

I don't say its the "same as nazi" no. but that where things start.

Stop and think: what if you had been born a Palestinian instead of where you are. It makes you see things different.

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Quote: from GoloSLB at 7:55 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

Quote: from whoisabs at 7:50 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

 Palestinians and other semitic people don't have blonde hair, unlike the girl who is front and center of that photo.

thats an assumption that has been disproven over and over again.

I know! Its funny that trying to "defend" Palestinians against Jews (although I think its more that he wants to attack jews than really defend Palestinians) abs falls into the exact same stereotypes and assumptions as racialists!    

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These guys don't look particularly "brown"



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Love that blonde hair...

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Quote: from whoisabs at 11:26 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

Love that blonde hair...

Funny.

You still haven't learned how to read.

No one claimed that it is common for Palestinians to have blond hair.

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Quote: from carracer at 11:30 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

Quote: from whoisabs at 11:26 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

Love that blonde hair...

Funny.

You still haven't learned how to read.

No one claimed that it is common for Palestinians to have blond hair.


o rly?

Quote: from GoloSLB at 7:55 pm on Dec. 30, 2008


Quote: from whoisabs at 7:50 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

Quote: from carracer at 7:35 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

A refugee camp.  

  http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,672197,00.jpg  

  Wait. That one is full of israelis not palestinians.


 

 Palestinians and other semitic people don't have blonde hair, unlike the girl who is front and center of that photo.



thats an assumption that has been disproven over and over again.




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