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Holocaust V.S. Palestine tragedy.
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But most of those calling for an end to Israel want to cleanse all the Jews living there.

You mean such as Iran who has a thriving Jewish population within its own borders?

Eat shit zionist liar.

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Will they let Jews all immigrate and live in Iran once Israel is destroyed?

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Quote: from jakelong at 11:47 pm on Dec. 29, 2008

Will they let Jews all immigrate and live in Iran once Israel is destroyed?

Israel could easily destroy Iran. Israel and the U.S. both have a good amount of nukes on hand.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 3:59 pm on Dec. 29, 2008


But most of those calling for an end to Israel want to cleanse all the Jews living there.

You mean such as Iran who has a thriving Jewish population within its own borders?

Eat shit zionist liar.


thriving jewish population?
25000 people, who are being discriminated against in almost every way - employment, housing, education.
legally they have lesser rights.
"Jews are often the target of degrading caricatures in the Iranian press." (wikipedia).
you fool no one. get your facts right.

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I say that the Israelis and Palestinians just need to chill the fuck out and have one big pillow fight.

Feathers will fly all over the Middle East.

I say that both parties are equally at fault for the current situation, because they're both too stubborn to give up. So they both perpetuate the violence. Israel has the advantage, though, of course, because no other country with ambitions in the US-dominated world can say no to them. They can do no wrong, basically.

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Quote: from Savren at 11:51 pm on Dec. 29, 2008

Israel could easily destroy Iran. Israel and the U.S. both have a good amount of nukes on hand.
Although thats not the point of my question. And you never know...

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I have to shake my head at this absurd thread title. How can this back and forth assault be at all compared to the Holocaust?

Israel is attacking Hamas militant sites while unfortunately and unintentionally killing some civilians.

6 million innocent Jews were tormented and harassed before being thrown in concentration camps to be starved and beaten to death.

If I was Jewish I'd take great offense to the suggestion that such events could be in any way compared. Stupid.


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Darfur is far more of a holocaust than this battle between Israel/Hamas.

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well the OP is abit of a troll anyway but I gave some comparison in picture here.

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yenebye-support-ta.html#65

The scale and tragedy is not the same but there are a few similar things. I think thats a bit disturbing. Its not just a few haywire bombs we're talking about.

Its using bulldozers to raze down buildings where ppl live just to root out a few insurgents

Its building walls to segreagte adnd punish a whole population for the crimes of a few

Its threatening old men,women and children to impose power on them

Its taking lands illegally and against UN rules.

I mean not all Palestinians are innocent sure but Israel sure fucked up in the way it is handling things.

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Quote: from Bud2400 at 9:32 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Quote: from jakelong at 6:56 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

I thought ppl who hate jews agree with each other.  

 
Abs doesn't hate Jews, though he does show disdain for those of Slavic / Turkic descent who claim to be Jews when they don't practice Judaism.



hating secular jews is still hating jews.  Judaism doesn't seek converts so its as much of an ethnic identity as it is a religion.

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Quote: from jakelong at 12:26 am on Dec. 30, 2008

well the OP is abit of a troll anyway but I gave some comparison in picture here.

http://www.golivewire.com/forums/peer-yenebye-support-ta.html#65

The scale and tragedy is not the same but there are a few similar things. I think thats a bit disturbing. Its not just a few haywire bombs we're talking about.

Its using bulldozers to raze down buildings where ppl live just to root out a few insurgents

Its building walls to segreagte adnd punish a whole population for the crimes of a few

Its threatening old men,women and children to impose power on them

Its taking lands illegally and against UN rules.

I mean not all Palestinians are innocent sure but Israel sure fucked up in the way it is handling things.



They are NOT comparable. Period. The suggestion of such is outrageous. Far far worse things have happened than whats going on in Israel/Palestine. All the African people who have endured genocides, the people of Ukraine thanks to Stalin, the Nanking Massacre, Armenia, Rwana, Darfur. Give it up already.

The Jews have suffered as much as any other groups of people have. Constantly in history they've been scape goats for national problems, harrassed, murdered and by the Nazi's "exterminated". Now the Jews are PROTECTING themselves against a TERRORIST militant group who started the missile attacks and broke the cease-fire.

Whether you agree or disagree with how thew Israeli's have operated since the founding of the state, its stupid to imply that this is genocidal. I don't know, maybe it just goes to show how Anti-Semites around the world will unite against them when they try to freaking defend themselves.

I'm tired of seeing these pictures to make me feel sympathetic to the Palestinians and start hating Israel. Its propaganda through photos. Like another poster said, lets see some pics of the Israeli women and children who have been blown up, with their guts splattered by Palestinian suicide bombers.

Do I enjoy seeing innocents die? Of course not. Do I support the Israeli retaliation against a terrorist group like Hamas? Hell yes.


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Quote: from whoisabs at 3:59 pm on Dec. 29, 2008


But most of those calling for an end to Israel want to cleanse all the Jews living there.

You mean such as Iran who has a thriving Jewish population within its own borders?

Eat shit zionist liar.



The lying is being done by yourself. The Jews have always been treated like crap by the Muslims. I wouldn't be surprised if you are an avid reader of TPotEoZ with your choice of language.

They are discriminated against as kwaifeh said. The Middle East hates them.

Despite what you might hear about this being political and not against the Jews, that is complete BS. It has a lot to do with the Muslims hating the Jews.


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Quote: from GoloSLB at 12:55 am on Dec. 30, 2008

hating secular jews is still hating jews.

Yet if they are of Slavic or Turkic descent rather than of true Semitic descent like an ethnic Jew should be, and they do not practice Judaism, are they truly Jews?


Judaism doesn't seek converts so its as much of an ethnic identity as it is a religion.

This doesn't mean that Judaism can't spread.  It may not spread very quickly, but it does nonetheless to people beyond the Semitic race.

The point I made, though, is that Abs has a dislike for those of almost entirely Slavic or Turkic descent who do not practice Judaism, yet still claim to be Jews.  This is a far cry from having prejudice against Jews as a whole.


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Quote: from whoisabs at 3:59 pm on Dec. 29, 2008


But most of those calling for an end to Israel want to cleanse all the Jews living there.

You mean such as Iran who has a thriving Jewish population within its own borders?

Eat shit zionist liar.


You mean the thriving Jewish community that is 0.035 percent of Iran's population? Twenty-five thousand people who face widespread persecution, are hated and scapegoated by the majority, and restricted heavily by law?

Sounds lovely and thriving to me. Much better than Israel, at any rate. Who needs tolerance?


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Quote: from whoisabs at 3:59 pm on Dec. 29, 2008


But most of those calling for an end to Israel want to cleanse all the Jews living there.

You mean such as Iran who has a thriving Jewish population within its own borders?

Eat shit zionist liar.


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/opinion/l04mumbai.html

You mean the continuing hatred towards jews and others around the world?
Even in the most current media"?

Eat shit racist pig.



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