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Holocaust V.S. Palestine tragedy.
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The Palestinians didn't do any wrong, all they want is not to be stripped of their human rights, and for them to still have a land. Israel tried to say how this land belonged to them, when it never did and still doesn't belong to them.
How are the Palestine's to blame? What did they do? They didn't do anything wrong. They are the victims.

What did the people of Israel do to get bombarded with rockets every day?


Well, that question is very foolish. They took a land that wasn't theirs, and treated the people that were originally there with bitterness and cruelty. The Palestinian people were living at peace, until the invasion came and stuck them.


You don't understand. Palestinians aren't the only one who claim Jerusalem as their holy land. Christians, Jews, Muslims, many denominations of huge religions, say that Jerusalem is their land.

It's not Palestine. It's Israel. The Israelis beat the Palestinians in the Six-Day-War by epic proportions. I'm sorry the two groups can't share the land, but EVERYONE is trying to claim the land.

Do not be so blind to think that only your group of people are right.

You're right. I'm not an Arab. My father is Jewish, so of course, I have some biased opinions. But none as great as yours. I would not compare a war against two groups to the annihilation of one race of people.


Jews aren't a race, try again.

The only attempts to annihilate a race were the european jews against the semitic muslims and even some christians and jews were caught up because they just happened to be the wrong color.

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The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way.
 

  Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land.


  You are severely biased. No one deserves the holy land more than another culture. The Isrealis WON the holy land, and at the moment, they have it. The Palestinians are at fault for being unable to share the land; the same fault that every other religion and group of people who wants to own the holy land should be accused of.  

  Are you blind? Yes, the Palestinians are fighting back with violence. They're not the wounded puppies in the situation. Both sides are to blame.


 

 I know those dirty brown people have rocks and small rockets, while the noble defenders of truth and virtue have tanks, attack helicopters, bombers, fighter jets, submarines, cruise missles, etc.  

 It is such an even battle.


They're not dirty. I have friends who support Palestinian efforts. I'm saying that Palestine isn't the "victim" here.


We already know that it is the dirty brown people vs your precious white jews, despite the fact that many of them are really just white atheists that claim title to a jewish 'race' when none exists.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 3:49 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Quote: from Disposition at 12:38 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

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The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way.
     

    Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land.


   

   You are severely biased. No one deserves the holy land more than another culture. The Isrealis WON the holy land, and at the moment, they have it. The Palestinians are at fault for being unable to share the land; the same fault that every other religion and group of people who wants to own the holy land should be accused of.      

   Are you blind? Yes, the Palestinians are fighting back with violence. They're not the wounded puppies in the situation. Both sides are to blame.


   

  I know those dirty brown people have rocks and small rockets, while the noble defenders of truth and virtue have tanks, attack helicopters, bombers, fighter jets, submarines, cruise missles, etc.    

  It is such an even battle.


 

 They're not dirty. I have friends who support Palestinian efforts. I'm saying that Palestine isn't the "victim" here.


 

We already know that it is the dirty brown people vs your precious white jews, despite the fact that many of them are really just white atheists that claim title to a jewish 'race' when none exists.


LOL, what are you even saying? My friends are those "dirty brown people" you're referring to. They're not white. Don't assume.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 3:47 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Quote: from Disposition at 6:35 pm on Dec. 24, 2008

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Quote: from xobeautifulgirlox at 10:55 pm on Dec. 23, 2008

The Palestinians didn't do any wrong, all they want is not to be stripped of their human rights, and for them to still have a land. Israel tried to say how this land belonged to them, when it never did and still doesn't belong to them.      
   How are the Palestine's to blame? What did they do? They didn't do anything wrong. They are the victims.

   

  What did the people of Israel do to get bombarded with rockets every day?


   

 Well, that question is very foolish. They took a land that wasn't theirs, and treated the people that were originally there with bitterness and cruelty. The Palestinian people were living at peace, until the invasion came and stuck them.


 

 You don't understand. Palestinians aren't the only one who claim Jerusalem as their holy land. Christians, Jews, Muslims, many denominations of huge religions, say that Jerusalem is their land.  

 It's not Palestine. It's Israel. The Israelis beat the Palestinians in the Six-Day-War by epic proportions. I'm sorry the two groups can't share the land, but EVERYONE is trying to claim the land.  

 Do not be so blind to think that only your group of people are right.  

 You're right. I'm not an Arab. My father is Jewish, so of course, I have some biased opinions. But none as great as yours. I would not compare a war against two groups to the annihilation of  one race of people.


Jews aren't a race, try again.

The only attempts to annihilate a race were the european jews against the semitic muslims and even some christians and jews were caught up because they just happened to be the wrong color.


It doesn't really matter, because that wasn't the point. Everyone knew what I meant by race: group of people. And what are you even talking about? We were talking about a war over Israel... and the Holocaust.

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The scale is not the same and the method was not the same either but over the long run there are some similar things yeah.

Like:

1. Building walls and segregating according to ethnic and race background:

Wall in Warsaw Ghetto

Gaza security wall

2. Marking check points where workers from one group can go through and being frisked and treated as subhumans.

3. Brutal military repression of any popular uprising


4. Targetting kids as though they are adults

5. Letting ppl in the segregated area starve and suffer

Again I don't say its exactly the same but its got a lot of similar things. too many of them.

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Quote: from xobeautifulgirlox at 10:21 am on Dec. 24, 2008

The Palestine's aren't acting out in any wrong, as its just for self defense.
Trut me they also their share of bombing and killing. No one is innocent in the Israel vs Palestine conflict.

The original point that there are som similar things with the Holocaust is true but nowhere near on the same scale and the same exact things.

Anyway you already showed you are an idiot and a fanatic so its good you decided to leave.

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The Palestinian people and the Isreali people are fighting against each other for the holy land. I don't really see it in the same light as the Holocaust. I mean, it's war. The Jewish people in the Holocaust didn't have the ability to fight back in an extreme way.

Neither do the Palestine's. They can't fight back. They'd get hit or killed, or who knows what. And the Palestinians are at no fault in this. Its their own land.


You are severely biased. No one deserves the holy land more than another culture. The Isrealis WON the holy land, and at the moment, they have it. The Palestinians are at fault for being unable to share the land; the same fault that every other religion and group of people who wants to own the holy land should be accused of.

Are you blind? Yes, the Palestinians are fighting back with violence. They're not the wounded puppies in the situation. Both sides are to blame.


I know those dirty brown people have rocks and small rockets, while the noble defenders of truth and virtue have tanks, attack helicopters, bombers, fighter jets, submarines, cruise missles, etc.

It is such an even battle.


They're not dirty. I have friends who support Palestinian efforts. I'm saying that Palestine isn't the "victim" here.


We already know that it is the dirty brown people vs your precious white jews, despite the fact that many of them are really just white atheists that claim title to a jewish 'race' when none exists.


LOL, what are you even saying? My friends are those "dirty brown people" you're referring to. They're not white. Don't assume.


honey, you really missed the train on that one...

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Quote: from whoisabs at 12:49 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

We already know that it is the dirty brown people vs your precious white jews.
according to KR Jews aren't white. You guys should start being consistent about who you really think is nonwhite  

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Quote: from jakelong at 6:26 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

according to KR Jews aren't white. You guys should start being consistent about who you really think is nonwhite


Why are Abs and KR supposed to agree on these things?  Are they the same person?  Do they share the same, or even remotely similar, ideologies?


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I thought ppl who hate jews agree with each other.  

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Quote: from jakelong at 6:56 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

I thought ppl who hate jews agree with each other.


Abs doesn't hate Jews, though he does show disdain for those of Slavic / Turkic descent who claim to be Jews when they don't practice Judaism.


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But hes cool with jews of African descent or Jews of Asian descent or Jews of Spanish descent or those of Slavic descent who DO practice their faith? ok....


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Quote: from jakelong at 12:36 am on Dec. 29, 2008

But hes cool with jews of African descent or Jews of Asian descent or Jews of Spanish descent or those of Slavic descent who DO practice their faith? ok....

he doesn't agree with the idea that they maintain that jewish is some sort of 'race', because it isn't.

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Well I agree. I was just wondering because KR doesn't think so and has been spamming the race forum with claims that jews aren't white and I didn't notice abs calling him a retard...

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This isn't funny at all.
 

 This is so pathetic. You are blinded by Palestinian propaganda.

 What is happening in Palestine is nothing like the Holocaust, okay? I can not repeat myself enough: nothing^i. While some Palestinian Arabs may have been displaced by the establishment of the State of Israel, it's too late to do anything about it. There are millions of Jews in the Levant, and giving Palestine from the river to the sea would just mean another Holocaust and you know it.  

 The Palestinians fire rockets at Israel, kidnap soldiers, use human shields and propaganda to indoctrinate their your, manipulate foreign media, all in the name of cleaning millions of Jews from the Holy Land. Comparing Palestine to the Holocaust is only valid if you are postulating that a "Greater Palestine" solution would result in a repeat of the Nazi atrocities.  

 But the alleged Holocaust against Palestinians did not happen. You are deluded, and I am not going to waste any more time trying to reason with you.



Nobody is talking about killing all the jews, only the destruction of the zionist state and an end to the discriminatory policies such as 'transfer' that it uses to ethnically cleanse the native people out of their native lands.


But most of those calling for an end to Israel want to cleanse all the Jews living there. Seriously, if you allow Israel to be dismantled by the Palestinians, do you think they would be more likely to let the Jews peacefully leave, or just try to kill them all?

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