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Were the Israelies justified in their airstrike?
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Savren


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Quote: from Raza say at 8:45 pm on Dec. 31, 2008

Quote: from Chava at 5:02 pm on Dec. 31, 2008

Yes. They had been getting bombed by Gaza for while before those airstrikes. No one wants to report those attacks though. I think one made it onto the news.

According to the truce between Hamas and Israel, Israeli army tanks were not allowed to come near or inside Gaza. Perhaps, you should try getting your facts straight. Israeli army violated the truce first, and then faced rocket attacks from Hamas,and if you think its justifiable to kill some 370 innocent civilians as a retaliation of few rocket which btw rarely end up taking someone's life, then reconsider.



They attacks killed 60 civilians unintentionally, the rest were Hamas guys. A labeled terrorist organization.

Get your facts straight, 370 innocent civilians is greatly exaggerating the truth.


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Quote: from Savren at 8:49 pm on Dec. 31, 2008

Quote: from Raza say at 8:45 pm on Dec. 31, 2008

Quote: from Chava at 5:02 pm on Dec. 31, 2008

Yes. They had been getting bombed by Gaza for while before those airstrikes. No one wants to report those attacks though. I think one made it onto the news.

According to the truce between Hamas and Israel, Israeli army tanks were not allowed to come near or inside Gaza. Perhaps, you should try getting your facts straight. Israeli army violated the truce first, and then faced rocket attacks from Hamas,and if you think its justifiable to kill some 370 innocent civilians as a retaliation of few rocket which btw rarely end up taking someone's life, then reconsider.


 
They attacks killed 60 civilians unintentionally, the rest were Hamas guys. A labeled terrorist organization.

Get your facts straight, 370 innocent civilians is greatly exaggerating the truth.



Wow, watch aljazeera or some unbiased news sources. More civilians died than people related to Hamas. Also, Gaza democratically elected Hamas. You are twisting up the actual facts, just to prove yourself right. In anyway, this massacre per se is unjstifiable.

Post edited at 10:41 pm on Dec. 31, 2008 by Raza say


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hell fucking no

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No. No. No. No.

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In my opinion, IF in fact it was Hamas that broke the ceasefire without being threatened by Israel (which we still aren't exactly clear on) than Israel was justified in the IDEA of an airstrike for the purposes of getting rid of Hamas and thus putting an end to uneeded violence, however the Israeli military is a very strong one, they went FAR beyond an airstrike against Hamas, and they killed FAR more civilians than should be killed in an airstrike like that.  So no.  They are now the terrorists in this situation.  Its like a person tapping you on the shoulder and then you turning around and stabbing them in the chest for it.  no, No, and NO.

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Wait... The Israeli military is incredibly strong, they're probably the best in the world. They could easily have done ground raids and been more efficient. No need to shred down countless infrastructure in an already struggling zone of a neighbouring country just to kill some beardy guy.

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carracer


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Quote: from mammoth at 3:34 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Quote: from handsfree at 3:33 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Fucking YES!  

 I want all the fucking terrorist HEzbollah muslims to be exterminated.


 
stop being retarded..they aint terrorists


Look it up.
Hezbollah is entirely a terrorist organization.

And I think that terrorists have no right to be anywhere, therefore I think that israel was justified.

Hammas has no business shooting rockets over the border at civilians.

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Quote: from carracer at 5:13 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Quote: from mammoth at 3:34 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Quote: from handsfree at 3:33 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Fucking YES!

  I want all the fucking terrorist HEzbollah muslims to be exterminated.


 

 
 stop being retarded..they aint terrorists


Look it up.
Hezbollah is entirely a terrorist organization.  

And I think that terrorists have no right to be anywhere, therefore I think that israel was justified.

Hammas has no business shooting rockets over the border at civilians.



the death toll was 25% civilian.  Not f*cking justified.

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carracer


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Quote: from GoloSLB at 12:59 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

In my opinion, IF in fact it was Hamas that broke the ceasefire without being threatened by Israel (which we still aren't exactly clear on) than Israel was justified in the IDEA of an airstrike for the purposes of getting rid of Hamas and thus putting an end to uneeded violence, however the Israeli military is a very strong one, they went FAR beyond an airstrike against Hamas, and they killed FAR more civilians than should be killed in an airstrike like that. So no. They are now the terrorists in this situation. Its like a person tapping you on the shoulder and then you turning around and stabbing them in the chest for it. no, No, and NO.

You also realize I hope that the gaza strip is over populated and a small area of land and civilian casualties are almost inevitable.

I'm not justifying it, I am just giving it a sense of reality.




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carracer


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Quote: from GoloSLB at 5:14 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Quote: from carracer at 5:13 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Quote: from mammoth at 3:34 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Quote: from handsfree at 3:33 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Fucking YES!    

  I want all the fucking terrorist HEzbollah muslims to be exterminated.


   
  stop being retarded..they aint terrorists


 

 Look it up.  
 Hezbollah is entirely a terrorist organization.

 And I think that terrorists have no right to be anywhere, therefore I think that israel was justified.  

 Hammas has no business shooting rockets over the border at civilians.



the death toll was 25% civilian. Not f*cking justified.

Then what were the other 75%?
Hmm?  

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carracer


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Quote: from Raza say at 9:58 pm on Dec. 31, 2008

Quote: from Savren at 8:49 pm on Dec. 31, 2008

Quote: from Raza say at 8:45 pm on Dec. 31, 2008

Quote: from Chava at 5:02 pm on Dec. 31, 2008

Yes. They had been getting bombed by Gaza for while before those airstrikes. No one wants to report those attacks though. I think one made it onto the news.
 

 According to the truce between Hamas and Israel, Israeli army tanks were not allowed to come near or inside Gaza. Perhaps, you should try getting your facts straight. Israeli army violated the truce first, and then faced rocket attacks from Hamas,and if you think its justifiable to kill some 370 innocent civilians as a retaliation of few rocket which btw rarely end up taking someone's life, then reconsider.



They attacks killed 60 civilians unintentionally, the rest were Hamas guys. A labeled terrorist organization.  

Get your facts straight, 370 innocent civilians is greatly exaggerating the truth.



Wow, watch aljazeera or some unbiased news sources. More civilians died than people related to Hamas. Also, Gaza democratically elected Hamas. You are twisting up the actual facts, just to prove yourself right. In anyway, this massacre per se is unjstifiable.

lmao

When did aljazeera become an "unbiased news source"?

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carracer


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Quote: from Raza say at 8:45 pm on Dec. 31, 2008

Quote: from Chava at 5:02 pm on Dec. 31, 2008

Yes. They had been getting bombed by Gaza for while before those airstrikes. No one wants to report those attacks though. I think one made it onto the news.

According to the truce between Hamas and Israel, Israeli army tanks were not allowed to come near or inside Gaza. Perhaps, you should try getting your facts straight. Israeli army violated the truce first, and then faced rocket attacks from Hamas,and if you think its justifiable to kill some 370 innocent civilians as a retaliation of few rocket which btw rarely end up taking someone's life, then reconsider.


Hamas has been launching rockets at israel since the 2nd lebanon war ended.

The only reason there haven't been more israeli civilian casualties, is because there is a bomb shelter in every building in the country.

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Quote: from carracer at 5:13 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Quote: from mammoth at 3:34 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Quote: from handsfree at 3:33 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Fucking YES!

  I want all the fucking terrorist HEzbollah muslims to be exterminated.


 

 
 stop being retarded..they aint terrorists


Look it up.
Hezbollah is entirely a terrorist organization.  

And I think that terrorists have no right to be anywhere, therefore I think that israel was justified.

Hammas has no business shooting rockets over the border at civilians.


excuse me,
but those are not terrorist groups...i hate how you guys jump to labels like that. they are an organization that is trying to take back the land that is rightfully theirs....since Palestine is not allowed to have an army, the only way to defend itself is through this organization

i suggest that if you want to know more about the conflict stop watching trashy news like CNN

please, for your own sake watch legitimate news like bbc or aljazeera

then you get the truth on whats happening over there...


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Savren


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Quote: from mammoth at 10:28 am on Jan. 2, 2009

Quote: from carracer at 5:13 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Quote: from mammoth at 3:34 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Quote: from handsfree at 3:33 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Fucking YES!    

  I want all the fucking terrorist HEzbollah muslims to be exterminated.


   
  stop being retarded..they aint terrorists


 

 Look it up.  
 Hezbollah is entirely a terrorist organization.

 And I think that terrorists have no right to be anywhere, therefore I think that israel was justified.  

 Hammas has no business shooting rockets over the border at civilians.


excuse me,
but those are not terrorist groups...i hate how you guys jump to labels like that. they are an organization that is trying to take back the land that is rightfully theirs....since Palestine is not allowed to have an army, the only way to defend itself is through this organization

i suggest that if you want to know more about the conflict stop watching trashy news like CNN

please, for your own sake watch legitimate news like bbc or aljazeera

then you get the truth on whats happening over there...



Says who?  

And whoever said "why dont they use ground force?"

Because people would just throw a bigger hissy fit for them invading. But thats probably the next step anyways.


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mammoth


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Quote: from Savren at 11:59 am on Jan. 2, 2009

Quote: from mammoth at 10:28 am on Jan. 2, 2009

Quote: from carracer at 5:13 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

Quote: from mammoth at 3:34 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Quote: from handsfree at 3:33 pm on Dec. 28, 2008

Fucking YES!

   I want all the fucking terrorist HEzbollah muslims to be exterminated.


   

     
  stop being retarded..they aint terrorists


  Look it up.
  Hezbollah is entirely a terrorist organization.    

  And I think that terrorists have no right to be anywhere, therefore I think that israel was justified.

  Hammas has no business shooting rockets over the border at civilians.


 

 excuse me,  
 but those are not terrorist groups...i hate how you guys jump to labels like that. they are an organization that is trying to take back the land that is rightfully theirs....since Palestine is not allowed to have an army, the only way to defend itself is through this organization  

 i suggest that if you want to know more about the conflict stop watching trashy news like CNN  

 please, for your own sake watch legitimate news like bbc or aljazeera  

 then you get the truth on whats happening over there...



Says who?  

And whoever said "why dont they use ground force?"

Because people would just throw a bigger hissy fit for them invading. But thats probably the next step anyways.



ah... i cant fight with everyone. cant you guys at least look into it "more thoroughly" before trying to prove to me that you are absolutley clueless on the matter. first off- find a source that is worth trusting....

for example: an unworthy source would be:
hmmm...if you look up something about the conflict....and lets say... the author was  an isreali extremist....what kind of info are you guys gonna get?
guess what..the facts are gonna be twisted...

and obviosly you guys dont trust arabs

so then get a source that has an author whom is in middle ground, concerning the conflict..

ALWAYS LOOK WHO IS THE AUTHOR and see what his personal standpoints are on the matter...then..if they have none, then perhaps it may be a legitimate source...PERHAPS


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