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Your thoughts on incest?
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What are your thoughts on incest? I've been seeing a lot of topics about it lately, so I decided to make my own.

Some people think incest is only wrong to us because society tells us it is supposed to be. Others disagree and argue that incest is wrong in any case; close blood relations should not be shared together due to possible mental health repercussions and birth defects if a baby was to be born.

All in all, what are your thoughts on incest? Are you with it, against it, or neutral towards it, and why?

Please, no, "Because it's disgusting," replies. I'm aware many of you think it's disgusting, but that wasn't my question. Give me a real reason and explain yourself as thoroughly as possible.

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I am neutral on the matter. One thing I don't understand is, why do people say "You don't have the right to tell someone who to love or who not to love." when asked about homosexuality. Yet the first time you say "incest", they are saying "No. It is not natural, it is not right." Well, a hundred years ago, homosexuality was not seen as natural or right...I think people should just let it go...

Post edited at 9:34 pm on Dec. 26, 2008 by gnr90

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Hm, I don't think that it's COMPLETELY wrong.
I try to see it in the open-minded way...

I don't think that family members are totally incapable of feeling different emotions for each other.  But what about those rare cases when they didn't know they were related? I mean, you'd have no idea. It's not like you meet your long lost brother and KNOW he's your brother.

The only reason why I see it as wrong is because I think of what if they have a baby. It's horrible that they bring a child into this world that is bound to have complications. I think adoption should be there answer if they want to have a family.

I'm pretty neutral.

I don't think it's disgusting. Love is love. But it's selfish if they decide to conceive, in my opinion. :\

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As the old saying goes; "the devil is in the detail"

In principle I'll not against it at all.  I find the genetic arguement both weak and insufficient,  since we would still claim a couple (bro+sis) unable to have children (both 60yrs +, for example) are "sick".... and just as "sick" as another couple of siblings trying for children.


   

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i dont agree with it.
but if there was only adam and eve, how else would the world be populated.
but i still stick to societies trend on this topic.

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I think incest is a poor choice due to the possible health repercussions, and I feel like it's wrong, because the sort of deep connection you have top someone in your family should preclude erotic love.  I can honestly say that the relationship I have with my best friend is like this, since she's acted as a sort of a surrogate mother/big sister for me.  I won't be stopping people who try it, as long as they understand the risks they're taking with pregnancy, but it's just not something I could live with.


Quote: from gnr90 at 9:18 pm on Dec. 26, 2008


Well, a hundred years ago, homosexuality was not seen as natural or right...

If by a hundred years ago, you mean now, then yes.  Have you heard some of the crazy conservative folk recently?

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Quote: from Colleen35 at 9:37 pm on Dec. 27, 2008

I think incest is a poor choice due to the possible health repercussions, and I feel like it's wrong, because the sort of deep connection you have top someone in your family should preclude erotic love. I can honestly say that the relationship I have with my best friend is like this, since she's acted as a sort of a surrogate mother/big sister for me. I won't be stopping people who try it, as long as they understand the risks they're taking with pregnancy, but it's just not something I could live with.



Consider a pair of siblings who cannot have children. -- there is then, no health repussions or risk of pregnancy....

...does your opinion on incest change?


if yes, then what you find disturbing is not the health implications, your objections are of a different nature.


if your mind does not change, then would the thought that the health issues would not be that seroius? ...there is, in actuality quite a good chance that child would live a normal healthy life (particually considering the potency of modern medicine)  

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Quote: from Blackadder at 3:32 pm on Dec. 27, 2008

 
Consider a pair of siblings who cannot have children. -- there is then, no health repussions or risk of pregnancy....

...does your opinion on incest change?

 
if yes, then what you find disturbing is not the health implications, your objections are of a different nature.

 
if your mind does not change, then would the thought that the health issues would not be that seroius? ...there is, in actuality quite a good chance that child would live a normal healthy life (particually considering the potency of modern medicine)


Like I said, I'm not out to stop people who accept the health risks. or somehow circumvent them, it's not my place to say.  I just would be uncomfortable with it from personal experience.  To me, a certain level of relationship with someone precludes an erotic relationship with that person, and I feel like siblings generally have such a relationship.

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There is a passage in the bible, of which the name escapes me, detailing 2 young woman sleeping with their drunken father in an effort to preserve their family line. Now, the casualness of which this passage is written suggests that actions such as these were perhaps commonly accepted back in the early stages of civilization. Yet, when mentioned today, incest is met with disdain and disgust. Why is this? I believe this is because as civilization has reached its most populous time in history, incest has no longer become a necessity for the survival of our species. Since humans now have a wide variety of potential mates available before them, we now have the chance to view incest from a different point of view. Now, a notion has been passed down in our genes from generation to generation which brings us the belief that becoming the lover of someone with whom you share blood is an extremely vile act. I too share this belief. Whether morally right or wrong remains a moot point, as it has now grown into a taboo act looked down upon by society.

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Quote: from Explosion990 at 4:01 am on Dec. 28, 2008

There is a passage in the bible, of which the name escapes me, detailing 2 young woman sleeping with their drunken father in an effort to preserve their family line. Now, the casualness of which this passage is written suggests that actions such as these were perhaps commonly accepted back in the early stages of civilization. Yet, when mentioned today, incest is met with disdain and disgust. Why is this? I believe this is because as civilization has reached its most populous time in history, incest has no longer become a necessity for the survival of our species. Since humans now have a wide variety of potential mates available before them, we now have the chance to view incest from a different point of view. Now, a notion has been passed down in our genes from generation to generation which brings us the belief that becoming the lover of someone with whom you share blood is an extremely vile act. I too share this belief. Whether morally right or wrong remains a moot point, as it has now grown into a taboo act looked down upon by society.

Just out of curiosity, do you have the reference for that? It sounds like you're talking about Lot's daughters, and they got a pretty strong reprimand for doing that.

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Incest is the closest thing to a universal taboo that we have, even in societies of antiquity.  The degree of relation that is acceptable varies between societies (e.g., there are some that accept sister/brother relationships that still have taboos against mother/son relationships,) but there is universally some taboo against it.  

Personal objection against it = it typically perverts relationships of authority.


believe this is because as civilization has reached its most populous time in history, incest has no longer become a necessity for the survival of our species.  

You smoked way too much fucking crack.

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My issues with it are mostly the genetic difficulties that can present when there's incestuous procreation; but if people are knowledgeable about that, then I'm in no position to stop them.

To be honest, though, I don't think proper erotic feelings are possible for people you have a close enough relationship to (such as those you are raised with).  I believe that at a certain point, philia precludes eros.

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I make no real stand on this issue, I believe it can be problematic if you are in any society which does not accept it.  Regardless of the reasons..

However, the genetic or health issues seem rather as a small 'against' for this case.  Is incest a full relationship with a related person or is it sex with them?  Because, the last time I checked, most people were not having sex to reproduce.  We have sex because we like it.  Occasionally someone has sex for a child or accidentally has a child, but I'm sure in most cases of incest, no children are hoped to come out of it.  People (related or not) usually have sex to have sex.

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Interestingly, I read somewhere on Yahoo this week that people are biologically designed so that while faces that are similar to ours stimulate feelings of affection, they do not stimulate feelings of sexual desire. Why this is the case biologically, I really can't say...perhaps it's God's/nature's way of ensuring biological diversity.

My personal stance is that if you're not procreating and it's consensual, I don't really care. I don't want to hear about it or think about it, so please do keep it to yourself, but I don't really care what you do behind closed doors.

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incest for the purpose of procreating is "wrong".
incest out of rape/power struggle is wrong.
incest by consenting members of a family, without the purpose of procreating... well shit, i couldn't give less of a fuck if you wanna touch your sister, that's your own damn business... who am i to try and stop you?

Post edited at 2:59 am on Jan. 2, 2009 by Charolastra

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