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.......HE DID, period, no excuses, HE DID!  

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But.

He.

Did.

Not.

Have.

To.

That.

Is.

The.

Point.

Learn.

To.

Read.

You.

Bitter.

Lonely.

Troll.

Yes, he paid. But was he expected to? No. Did he have to? No. Does any guy I'm with, or girl I'm with, have to have money to make me happy? No.

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Yes, he paid. But was he expected to? No. Did he have to? No.

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You keep looking for excuses when the bottom line is that he paid.  It is to difficult to accept the fact?

"It's not like I wanted him to", "He paid for me all the time but, I did a frowny face", cheap ass excuses, as cheap as you.  

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You keep looking for excuses when the bottom line is that he paid.  It is to difficult to accept the fact?

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It's quite difficult to talk to a troll, such as yourself, Chino. Yes, he paid. But did he have to? No. Was he expected to? No. Is any male in society expected to be the one with the money coming out of their asses? Yeah. Sure. If you're living in a world that isn't reality.

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"It's not like I wanted him to", "He paid for me all the time but, I did a frowny face", cheap ass excuses, as cheap as yo

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He didn't pay for me all the time.

He didn't have to pay for me. That's the point. Quit trying to make as if you're a winner. You're a sad loser, in this debate/childish argument, m'dear.

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Chino, yeah, he paid for her once.  The only relevant question, however, is did it get him anywhere?

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Chino, yeah, he paid for her once.  The only relevant question, however, is did it get him anywhere?

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No.

You know what got him anywhere? His patience, his personality, and his character.

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Money IS important for women since the beginning of humanity.  Just remember how a prince approached a princess, with all these horses carrying carts full of jewels, animals, food, etc.  The princess would then choose the guy with more bling.  Women make it sound nice when they say "All I want is the guy to be financially secure, financially good, with a career, etc." which all goes down to money really.  Is it bad? I am not sure, I think its just a tradition.  Tell me how often you see a rich guy without a date.  Any guy with fat pockets and a cool car can walk alone to a party/club/bar/etc. and drive home with a girl or two.  

Have two all around nice guys approach a girl but one of those guys has all this money, coolest car ever, great job, etc.  While the other guy is a janitor.  Who will the girl choose? No rocket science needed really.  We even see it in the animal kingdom where, say, you'll have a bird that stocks more food and all.  You'll see female birds lift their tails to the male's face, do a dance to seduce him, and so on.  It's funny but not so different from humans.

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this is pretty much the answer to the whole thread.

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Quote: from Chino at 12:28 pm on Jan. 9, 2009

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Money IS important for women since the beginning of humanity. Just remember how a prince approached a princess, with all these horses carrying carts full of jewels, animals, food, etc. The princess would then choose the guy with more bling. Women make it sound nice when they say "All I want is the guy to be financially secure, financially good, with a career, etc." which all goes down to money really. Is it bad? I am not sure, I think its just a tradition. Tell me how often you see a rich guy without a date. Any guy with fat pockets and a cool car can walk alone to a party/club/bar/etc. and drive home with a girl or two.  

Have two all around nice guys approach a girl but one of those guys has all this money, coolest car ever, great job, etc. While the other guy is a janitor. Who will the girl choose? No rocket science needed really. We even see it in the animal kingdom where, say, you'll have a bird that stocks more food and all. You'll see female birds lift their tails to the male's face, do a dance to seduce him, and so on. It's funny but not so different from humans.  

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this is pretty much the answer to the whole thread.

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It's quite difficult to talk to a troll, such as yourself, Chino. Yes, he paid. But did he have to? No. Was he expected to? No.

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A troll just because I disagree with you, eh? Grow up.

It's like having a person sent to jail for murder and she/he goes "Oh, I mean, I did pull the trigger but its not like I really wanted.  I didn't have to.  I was not happy to do it"...cheap ass excuse when the bottom line is that "She/He killed somebody" period.  I can imagine a cop giving you a ticket for running a red light and hearing you go "Well, its not like I really wanted to do this.  I didn't have to do it.  As a matter of fact, I am upset with myself for doing that..." when the bottom line is, YOU DIDNT OBEY THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, period.  You and your cheap ass excuses.  Just stand up for yourself for the first time and admit it.  Always looking for lame excuses.  I would understand if he put a gun on your head.

This guy paid no matter what excuse you are looking for and other people were paying for your so called pole dance class or whatever.  I can see you under welfare along the road.

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At one point, I didn't care about money at all, but I'm sick of taking care of guys, and I don't currently want to do it.

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See, a girl getting sick of it is totally acceptable.  But a guy taking a girl out with no money is considered cheap.  

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Chino, yeah, he paid for her once.  The only relevant question, however, is did it get him anywhere?

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Not sure how things ended between them but she admitted in another thread that other people were paying for a class or something for her.  Did it get him anywhere? Well, it got him to loose ffrom $50 to $100 of what a date normally costs.  

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At one point, I didn't care about money at all, but I'm sick of taking care of guys, and I don't currently want to do it.

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See, a girl getting sick of it is totally acceptable.  But a guy taking a girl out with no money is considered cheap.

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I prefer paying for myself anyways.  I know exactly how much money I have and how much I can comfortably spend.  I can get exactly what I want without feeling any guilt.  Spending on someone else's dime is uncomfortable.  Considering my views, guys who aren't the same way aren't the sort I want.  I already have a pet and he's good at his job.  I'm not looking to replace him.  Any other men I give my attention to I expect to be more independent.

Besides, it isn't like the whole "happily ever after" thing really happens much anymore, and it certainly isn't going to happen for me.  There's no sense in either party becoming reliant on the other.

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No. A troll for your baiting, and your twisting of words.

It's like having a person sent to jail for murder and she/he goes "Oh, I mean, I did pull the trigger but its not like I really wanted.  I didn't have to.  I was not happy to do it".

Strawman, I believe. Whatever it is, it's a fallacy. Quit trying to stray the burden and the topic, troll ass.

.cheap ass excuse when the bottom line is that "She/He killed somebody" period.

She had intention, with the gun in her hands. That's how the law works, babydoll.

 I can imagine a cop giving you a ticket for running a red light and hearing you go "Well, its not like I really wanted to do this.  I didn't have to do it.  As a matter of fact, I am upset with myself for doing that..."

Would you quit with the fucking fallacies? What the fuck do any of these have to do with the requirement, or lack thereof, of the male to pay for things?

And what of homosexual relationships, of the lesbian variety? There's no males, there. Do they never get anything?

when the bottom line is, YOU DIDNT OBEY THE TRAFFIC LIGHT, period.  You and your cheap ass excuses.  Just stand up for yourself for the first time and admit it.  Always looking for lame excuses.  I would understand if he put a gun on your head.

You are an ignorant little troll, and I'm so sick of your bullshit, fallacies, and masoschisitc (spelling) points of view. We're not helpless, women as we may be. We can fend for ourselves. And guess what? We do. we have been. And we will continue to. I don't need a man, nor his money, to make my life.

Not sure how things ended between them but she admitted in another thread that other people were paying for a class or something for her.  Did it get him anywhere? Well, it got him to loose ffrom $50 to $100 of what a date normally costs.   '

They paid for it as a GIFT. Generosity. they didn't have to do it. They wanted to do it. G-I-F-T. Do you know what that means, you asshole? Oh my Goddess.

It got him nowhere. He didn't have to use the money, to get up the ladder into my life. Thanks very much. It takes patience, character, and personality to be special to me. Not dough. I have my own money. I can and will fend for myself, k thanks.

This guy paid no matter what excuse you are looking for and other people were paying for your so called pole dance class or whatever.  I can see you under welfare along the road.


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You know what my favorite date was? Him letting me cook him dinner. You want to know what my second favorite date was? Hanging out with his family, for ThanksGiving. Followed by a third favorite, being a weekend to ourselves, at his dad's cabin, for Spring break. Money not important to either, and certainly not ever exceeding maybe 20$.

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