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Those who want Jews to leave Israel
Where do you want them to go?
Replies: 74Last Post Jan. 13 3:34am by jakelong
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Quote: from whoisabs at 5:59 am on Jan. 6, 2009

Wherever the invaders came from, they can return to.
How do you define where they are FROM if they moved for example from Russia, Russia to Poland, Poland to Germany and Germany to Israel?

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Quote: from jakelong at 6:01 am on Jan. 6, 2009Quote: from Rastafarian at 5:53 am on Jan. 6, 2009So does that mean they can move ANYWHERE in Europe if they came from all over Europe?

No, because no one ever gives specific ethincities exclusive rights to move everywhere, wherever they want, or whatever. If one portion of the Jewish population is living in Poland, and the other is living in Japan, that's just where they are living.

The Jewish culture isn't an entity that is easily tracked since it has been split up into so many pieces. That doesn't mean that those pieces should have been brought together the way they were.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 5:59 am on Jan. 6, 2009

Jews were a pretty small minority a century ago before zionism really started to cause problems.
Really? then why did Hitler have so much trouble with them? He could just have ignored them and let them be if they were that small.

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Quote: from johnroberts at 1:36 pm on Jan. 6, 2009

Not UK. Although it is multicultural, in my experience it could do with a little less religious conflict.

The UK hasn't got much religious conflict.

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Quote: from Rastafarian at 6:08 am on Jan. 6, 2009

No, because no one ever gives specific ethincities exclusive rights to move everywhere, wherever they want, or whatever.
If you chase people from one place you must have some idea of where they can move. If you are saying they have no right to live in one place then you are FORCING them to move to another place.


If one portion of the Jewish population is living in Poland, and the other is living in Japan, that's just where they are living.
That is where they live but NOT where are FROM, is that what you mean?

If yes then where are they really FROM?

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Quote: from yguinor at 5:42 am on Jan. 6, 2009

you mean gaza? jews arent gonna leave israel.. im sorry to spoil it for you

And they shouldn't. No one should have to leave their home. You all should see the shit that's on television over here. It's not censored. It's atrocious and it needs to stop. It's cool how it started (what with the brothers and all) but what it's turned in to is disgusting.

Why can't people just share?

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They can be like the rest of the population in the world: disperse. Or if they want to purchase a piece of land to live on, fine. But rather than take something from a group of people that hates them, they should actually bring something of value up as collateral allowing choice for yes or no.

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Quote: from Rastafarian at 1:48 am on Jan. 7, 2009

Quote: from Gaelle at 5:46 am on Jan. 6, 2009

Quote: from Rastafarian at 5:44 am on Jan. 6, 2009

Ovens. :roll eyes:

They could go back to wherever they came from, hows that for an idea?


 

Well, isn't that Israel?


After their exodus 2000 years ago.

Man I wish I could claim the area I came from 2000 years ago to be my home and kick everyone out of there too, and if you try to come back I'll just get my big brother (who lent me his squirt gun) to tell you to stop, and what I won't tell you is that if you throw pebbles at me, I'll break yours and all the people around you (even [and probably most importantly to note] if they're not participating at all) arms.



They didn't kick anyone out of there. The people who are now refugees are the later generations of other people who decided to leave "temporarily" while the Arabs wiped out the Jews, so they could go back. Too bad for them and the Arabs that the Jews had other ideas, chiefly to survive.


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Quote: from tkster at 4:41 am on Jan. 7, 2009

They can be like the rest of the population in the world: disperse.  Or if they want to purchase a piece of land to live on, fine.  But rather than take something from a group of people that hates them, they should actually bring something of value up as collateral allowing choice for yes or no.

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They didn't take anything, those who left Israel back in 1947 did so of their own free will. Also, it was the United Nations, aka "the rest of the world", who decided that the Jews should be allowed to have a nation again. Stop villainizing a group of people who you don't know anything about. Here's an idea, read up on your history instead.


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Quote: from football at 10:56 am on Jan. 6, 2009

They didn't take anything, those who left Israel back in 1947 did so of their own free will.

I don't limit myself to 75 years of time.


Also, it was the United Nations, aka "the rest of the world", who decided that the Jews should be allowed to have a nation again.

The amount of deaths due to a decision done by ad miscordiam, ad verecundiam and radical ideals have led to a mess in the area on both sides.  I don't care who thought of or supported the idea; it is a disaster.


Stop villainizing a group of people who you don't know anything about. Here's an idea, read up on your history instead.

My history dates more than the last 100 years.

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Quote: from blufindr at 3:38 pm on Jan. 6, 2009

Isn't Jake Long the American Dragon?
Haha.. his avatar too :P

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Ideally, they'd stay in Palestine.

When I advocate the destruction of Israel, I don't mean the destruction of Jews, but the destruction of Zionism and Zionists.  If the Jews living in Palestine do not care for a Jewish state and are happy to live among the Palestinians and other groups in Palestine equally, then there's nothing wrong with that.  The Zionists who would likely remain, however, would have to be evicted from Palestine, and where they go is their business.


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They shouldnt have to leave, but they shouldnt have thier own country

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Its kind of hard for me to decide, I don't care for the concept of zionism but I also don't care for the idea of them not having any way to protect themselves in case of someone wants to do what Hitler tried, and saying other countries will protect them doesn't satisfy me since no one spoke up during the holocaust.

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Quote: from Bud2400 at 1:05 pm on Jan. 6, 2009

Ideally, they'd stay in Palestine.

When I advocate the destruction of Israel, I don't mean the destruction of Jews, but the destruction of Zionism and Zionists. If the Jews living in Palestine do not care for a Jewish state and are happy to live among the Palestinians and other groups in Palestine equally, then there's nothing wrong with that. The Zionists who would likely remain, however, would have to be evicted from Palestine, and where they go is their business.


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