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Did you really just say the "black" part of town? Please tell me you mean the dark part and you aren't being blatantly racist....

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What good comes from atheists trying to turn Christians away from God? None. They do it because they think of themselves as gods (funny thing is no human I've ever met has been worthy of worship) and they get satisfaction in it. Christians try to get atheists to turn to God because they're afraid from them.

haha *waits to be flamed*

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Some people go, "booo," they go, "quack quack," they go, "kee"
Some people have nothing and want nothing and are free

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See that's the sad thing here. I try to spread the Holy Word because I care about where others end up... and here they think I'm "forcing" stuff on them. no, I just don't want anyone to be separated from God for eternity.

What good comes from atheists trying to turn Christians away from God? None. They do it because they think of themselves as gods (funny thing is no human I've ever met has been worthy of worship) and they get satisfaction in it. Christians try to get atheists to turn to God because they're afraid from them.

haha *waits to be flamed*

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You're not God, though, so you really don't know what standards God uses to judge people. The Bible is vague, completely open to interpretation, and not a 100% reliable resource, so that's out.

I'm Christian, also, but who the hell am I to present my beliefs as fact? We both could be completely wrong, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster really could be the one and only god, so why and use scare tactics to convert people to something that could quite possibly be wrong?

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Quote: from MourningAir at 10:53 am on Jan. 5, 2009

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See that's the sad thing here. I try to spread the Holy Word because I care about where others end up... and here they think I'm "forcing" stuff on them. no, I just don't want anyone to be separated from God for eternity.  

 What good comes from atheists trying to turn Christians away from God? None. They do it because they think of themselves as gods (funny thing is no human I've ever met has been worthy of worship) and they get satisfaction in it. Christians try to get atheists to turn to God because they're afraid from them.  

 haha *waits to be flamed*

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You're not God, though, so you really don't know what standards God uses to judge people. The Bible is vague, completely open to interpretation, and not a 100% reliable resource, so that's out.

I'm Christian, also, but who the hell am I to present my beliefs as fact? We both could be completely wrong, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster really could be the one and only god, so why and use scare tactics to convert people to something that could quite possibly be wrong?

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While there are parts of the Bible some would consider vague, I don't see how you could disagree that those who do not believe in Jesus as our savior will not go to Heaven. It's made perfectly clear.

Who are you to present your beliefs as fact? a Christian, that's who. Don't call yourself a Christian if you do not believe in what Jesus has said and that the only way to salvation is through Him.

Also, I don't consider it using "scare tactics" by telling people the truth. Whether you personally believe it's the truth or not is irrelevant (but I don't understand how you could call yourself a Christian and at the same time deny the basics that Jesus taught) but I assure you I've never told people about God in an attempt to scare them, that has never been my "angle."

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Quote: from draakprinses at 12:00 pm on Jan. 5, 2009

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Quote: from MourningAir at 10:53 am on Jan. 5, 2009

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See that's the sad thing here. I try to spread the Holy Word because I care about where others end up... and here they think I'm "forcing" stuff on them. no, I just don't want anyone to be separated from God for eternity.

  What good comes from atheists trying to turn Christians away from God? None. They do it because they think of themselves as gods (funny thing is no human I've ever met has been worthy of worship) and they get satisfaction in it. Christians try to get atheists to turn to God because they're afraid from them.

  haha *waits to be flamed*

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 You're not God, though, so you really don't know what standards God uses to judge people. The Bible is vague, completely open to interpretation, and not a 100% reliable resource, so that's out.  

 I'm Christian, also, but who the hell am I to present my beliefs as fact? We both could be completely wrong, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster really could be the one and only god, so why and use scare tactics to convert people to something that could quite possibly be wrong?

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While there are parts of the Bible some would consider vague, I don't see how you could disagree that those who do not believe in Jesus as our savior will not go to Heaven. It's made perfectly clear.

Who are you to present your beliefs as fact? a Christian, that's who. Don't call yourself a Christian if you do not believe in what Jesus has said and that the only way to salvation is through Him.

Also, I don't consider it using "scare tactics" by telling people the truth. Whether you personally believe it's the truth or not is irrelevant (but I don't understand how you could call yourself a Christian and at the same time deny the basics that Jesus taught) but I assure you I've never told people about God in an attempt to scare them, that has never been my "angle."

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The Bible hasn't been proven to be the ultimate truth.

Fact makes faith obsolete. Faith is belief where fact is lacking. So you're telling me you have no faith? You have no authority to tell me what to and not to call myself. You are not God, and trying to tell me what to believe, and judging me is hubris. I don't think God would appreciate that.

I do believe the basics Jesus taught. Love, respect, compassion.

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Quote: from draakprinses at 12:00 pm on Jan. 5, 2009

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Quote: from MourningAir at 10:53 am on Jan. 5, 2009

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See that's the sad thing here. I try to spread the Holy Word because I care about where others end up... and here they think I'm "forcing" stuff on them. no, I just don't want anyone to be separated from God for eternity.

  What good comes from atheists trying to turn Christians away from God? None. They do it because they think of themselves as gods (funny thing is no human I've ever met has been worthy of worship) and they get satisfaction in it. Christians try to get atheists to turn to God because they're afraid from them.

  haha *waits to be flamed*

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 You're not God, though, so you really don't know what standards God uses to judge people. The Bible is vague, completely open to interpretation, and not a 100% reliable resource, so that's out.  

 I'm Christian, also, but who the hell am I to present my beliefs as fact? We both could be completely wrong, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster really could be the one and only god, so why and use scare tactics to convert people to something that could quite possibly be wrong?

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While there are parts of the Bible some would consider vague, I don't see how you could disagree that those who do not believe in Jesus as our savior will not go to Heaven. It's made perfectly clear.

Who are you to present your beliefs as fact? a Christian, that's who. Don't call yourself a Christian if you do not believe in what Jesus has said and that the only way to salvation is through Him.

Also, I don't consider it using "scare tactics" by telling people the truth. Whether you personally believe it's the truth or not is irrelevant (but I don't understand how you could call yourself a Christian and at the same time deny the basics that Jesus taught) but I assure you I've never told people about God in an attempt to scare them, that has never been my "angle."

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When you can prove to someone else that Christianity is the one Truth in the world, you'll have a point. As you can't, your point is moot.

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To ever ever after

The best way is to lead by example. Did Jesus preach hatred? Not unless you were a religious leader. Did Jesus exclaim that "if you don't force your religion down their throats, your (sic) dooming them to Hell, so I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up there yourself."?

No. He preached love. He spent time with prostitutes and murderers. Look up who the disciples were...they were tax collectors etc.

I'm sure God looks down at those who say "God hates you all" and "you're all going to Hell" and shakes His head. God never intended people to preach that, He intended people to preach his love, and love everyone else (coincidentially the two most important commandments).

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I don't maintain that I can prove to others that Christianity is the one true word, only that I live my life as such and making my claim as a Christian, -that- is why I talk to others about Jesus.

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You're more than welcome to do so; however, if you're not considering the perspective of those others in your talking, you're doing a disservice to Christ and most likely driving them away.

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Let yourself be enchanted,
You just might break through
To ever ever after

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Atheists will burn in Hell for eternity if not saved. Just as we would be obligated to warn someone if they were taking a fatal concoction of pills, or were heading into the black part of town, or whatever, it is morally imperative for us Christians to save atheists from this fate.

If you don't force your religion down their throats, your dooming them to Hell, so I wouldn't be surprised if you ended up there yourself.

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First, I want to congratulate you for not hiding under the semantic words and being man enough not beating around the bushes instead just flat out laying it clearly.
Second, I agree with you, however, I don't think we should push religion or belief on people's throats but rather just inform them but if they refuse then fine no threats or imposing.
Third, we most definately should not recognize homosexuality as a natural being and normacly; it shall always be as it was odd and abnormal to our civilized society.  

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Die Abrahamitischen Tradition muss bewahrt werden. --Monsour Aristocrat

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Sell a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man
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