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Without a doubt the things you say can be taken into an offensive context. You can have more interest in your race and "help" it. But when you try to make them the center of everything and pretty much under credit non-whites. That's when I have the right to claim you are in the field of prejudice/racist

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When you have direct evidence that I find a race inferior or I hate another race you can call me racist.
Not until then.

But it seems you OVERCREDIT Negroes and that, by your standards, would make YOU racist.

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Besides maybe that I am not the only one who finds your posts offensive to non-whites should give you a hint. I am sure your not clueless to when you are doing it. But it can't be helped with someone who is so proud of his race to pretty much try to say it is better without actually posting it word for word.

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I don't try to say it's better.
I actually say that it isn't.
But you must ignore that.

Because you look at 10 things I say that contradict what you think of me and IGNORE that - and look at one other thing I say and think it "Implies" something when that's entirely impossible for you to know (Unless you read minds) and you call me racist.

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Not true at all. Here you go again with accusing me of over crediting black people. You seem to under credit them and you do that by saying they have little influence and that their culture had little influence. But I guess by your standards naming the slightest positive in a black would be over crediting them.

Like Bud said. In your posts you seem to twist information around to make it seem as if the non-whites were nothing without whites, ungrateful to them, more savage like, etc.

Yeah you say that the white race isn't better  

So I guess all your twisted posts about how whites influenced all this stuff, how other cultures were pretty much hardly anything without whites, how whites are this, whites are that. How "We must save our beautiful white culture from the "bad seeds" which are influencing them badly. You know You say you don't think whites are better but your posts say otherwise.

And actually no, I read your posts all the way through. You just make offensive implications and expect people not to find it prejudice. But I guess you and me live in both different worlds.

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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Not true at all. Here you go again with accusing me of over crediting black people. You seem to under credit them and you do that by saying they have little influence and that their culture had little influence. But I guess by your standards naming the slightest positive in a black would be over crediting them.

Like Bud said. In your posts you seem to twist information around to make it seem as if the non-whites were nothing without whites, ungrateful to them, more savage like, etc.

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Yeah you say that the white race isn't better

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No race is better at everything.
No race is superior.

But each race has its ups and downs - that's evolution.

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So I guess all your twisted posts about how whites influenced all this stuff, how other cultures were pretty much hardly anything without whites, how whites are this, whites are that. How "We must save our beautiful white culture from the "bad seeds" which are influencing them badly. You know You say you don't think whites are better but your posts say otherwise.

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I think that White culture should be preserved so it DOES NOT DIE OUT.

I have ALSO said that I believe all cultures should be preserved and I fully support Whites immigrating FROM the USA to Europe to help the Amerinds gain back their land and practice their culture.

But that would contradict your accusations.

So you IGNORE it.

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And actually no, I read your posts all the way through. You just make offensive implications and expect people not to find it prejudice. But I guess you and me live in both different worlds.

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Maybe I undercredit them just to counter the overcrediting of them.

Maybe I don't undercredit them at all and what you think is "Fair" on crediting them is really overcrediting itself.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Not true at all. Here you go again with accusing me of over crediting black people. You seem to under credit them and you do that by saying they have little influence and that their culture had little influence. But I guess by your standards naming the slightest positive in a black would be over crediting them.  

Like Bud said. In your posts you seem to twist information around to make it seem as if the non-whites were nothing without whites, ungrateful to them, more savage like, etc.

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Maybe I do. Maybe I don't.  
He also said "I believe he's sincere and not truly racist."  

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Yeah you say that the white race isn't better

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Better at what?  

No race is better at everything.  
No race is superior.  

But each race has its ups and downs - that's evolution.  

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So I guess all your twisted posts about how whites influenced all this stuff, how other cultures were pretty much hardly anything without whites, how whites are this, whites are that. How "We must save our beautiful white culture from the "bad seeds" which are influencing them badly. You know You say you don't think whites are better but your posts say otherwise.

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Did you just put "Bad seeds" in quotes because you felt like it fit or did I actually say that?  

I think that White culture should be preserved so it DOES NOT DIE OUT.  

I have ALSO said that I believe all cultures should be preserved and I fully support Whites immigrating FROM the USA to Europe to help the Amerinds gain back their land and practice their culture.  

But that would contradict your accusations.  

So you IGNORE it.  

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And actually no, I read your posts all the way through. You just make offensive implications and expect people not to find it prejudice. But I guess you and me live in both different worlds.

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I read your posts too.  
You overcredit Negroes.  
Maybe I DO undercredit them.  
So what? Doesn't make you racist.  

Maybe I undercredit them just to counter the overcrediting of them.  

Maybe I don't undercredit them at all and what you think is "Fair" on crediting them is really overcrediting itself.

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lol well bud puts too much faith/trust in some of your motives. But it is true that there are ups in down in races economy wise. But You seem to point out more in non-whites and come to defense in the faults of whites. That is why your "Equal ridicule" doesn't fall into play. And a lot of it is not proven to be true. Also In an early conversation when I first "Met" you, you once said that whites need to get away from bad seeds and I asked you "By bad seeds do you mean nonwhites?". You said yes. I don't know how long ago that was.

You under credit races just to counter my over crediting? As I said, I don't over credit, but your claim fails because at times you make statements out of the blue that discredit other races. Not just black. I don't even have to be there. Placing all these negatives on nonwhites probably comes naturally to you being a guy of white pride. You will just have to accept the fact that you won't be able to make these claims without sounding prejudice.

Post edited at 6:10 pm on Jan. 8, 2009 by Moonscar

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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       Not true at all. Here you go again with accusing me of over crediting black people. You seem to under credit them and you do that by saying they have little influence and that their culture had little influence. But I guess by your standards naming the slightest positive in a black would be over crediting them.  

       Like Bud said. In your posts you seem to twist information around to make it seem as if the non-whites were nothing without whites, ungrateful to them, more savage like, etc.

   Maybe I do. Maybe I don't.  
   He also said "I believe he's sincere and not truly racist."  

       Yeah you say that the white race isn't better

   Better at what?  

   No race is better at everything.  
   No race is superior.  

   But each race has its ups and downs - that's evolution.  

       

       So I guess all your twisted posts about how whites influenced all this stuff, how other cultures were pretty much hardly anything without whites, how whites are this, whites are that. How "We must save our beautiful white culture from the "bad seeds" which are influencing them badly. You know You say you don't think whites are better but your posts say otherwise.

   Did you just put "Bad seeds" in quotes because you felt like it fit or did I actually say that?  

   I think that White culture should be preserved so it DOES NOT DIE OUT.  

   I have ALSO said that I believe all cultures should be preserved and I fully support Whites immigrating FROM the USA to Europe to help the Amerinds gain back their land and practice their culture.  

   But that would contradict your accusations.  

   So you IGNORE it.  

       And actually no, I read your posts all the way through. You just make offensive implications and expect people not to find it prejudice. But I guess you and me live in both different worlds.

   I read your posts too.  
   You overcredit Negroes.  
   Maybe I DO undercredit them.  
   So what? Doesn't make you racist.  

   Maybe I undercredit them just to counter the overcrediting of them.  

   Maybe I don't undercredit them at all and what you think is "Fair" on crediting them is really overcrediting itself.

lol well bud puts too much faith/trust in some of your motives. But it is true that there are ups in down in races economy wise. But You seem to point out more in non-whites and come to defense in the faults of whites. That is why your "Equal ridicule" doesn't fall into play. And a lot of it is not proven to be true. Also In an early conversation when I first "Met" you, you once said that whites need to get away from bad seeds and I asked you "By bad seeds do you mean nonwhites?". You said yes. I don't know how long ago that was.

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We could not find any topics matching your search.

But you feel free to FIND that conversation.

Or you can dismiss that claim altogether.

And maybe you don't trust my motives enough and Bud DOES.

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You under credit races just to counter my over crediting? As I said, I don't over credit, but your claim fails because at times you make statements out of the blue that discredit other races. Not just black. I don't even have to be there. Placing all these negatives on nonwhites probably comes naturally to you being a guy of white pride. You will just have to accept the fact that you won't be able to make these claims without sounding prejudice.

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PROVE IT.

Find a post where I overcredited Whites and thoroughly disprove my claims.

Or else you can dismiss your opinions.

And regardless of whether I SOUND prejudice, it means nothing unless I really am.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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  Not true at all. Here you go again with accusing me of over crediting black people. You seem to under credit them and you do that by saying they have little influence and that their culture had little influence. But I guess by your standards naming the slightest positive in a black would be over crediting them.

  Like Bud said. In your posts you seem to twist information around to make it seem as if the non-whites were nothing without whites, ungrateful to them, more savage like, etc.

  Maybe I do. Maybe I don't.
  He also said "I believe he's sincere and not truly racist."

  Yeah you say that the white race isn't better  

  Better at what?

  No race is better at everything.
  No race is superior.

  But each race has its ups and downs - that's evolution.

   

  So I guess all your twisted posts about how whites influenced all this stuff, how other cultures were pretty much hardly anything without whites, how whites are this, whites are that. How "We must save our beautiful white culture from the "bad seeds" which are influencing them badly. You know You say you don't think whites are better but your posts say otherwise.

  Did you just put "Bad seeds" in quotes because you felt like it fit or did I actually say that?

  I think that White culture should be preserved so it DOES NOT DIE OUT.

  I have ALSO said that I believe all cultures should be preserved and I fully support Whites immigrating FROM the USA to Europe to help the Amerinds gain back their land and practice their culture.

  But that would contradict your accusations.

  So you IGNORE it.

  And actually no, I read your posts all the way through. You just make offensive implications and expect people not to find it prejudice. But I guess you and me live in both different worlds.  

  I read your posts too.
  You overcredit Negroes.
  Maybe I DO undercredit them.
  So what? Doesn't make you racist.

  Maybe I undercredit them just to counter the overcrediting of them.

  Maybe I don't undercredit them at all and what you think is "Fair" on crediting them is really overcrediting itself.

lol well bud puts too much faith/trust in some of your motives. But it is true that there are ups in down in races economy wise. But You seem to point out more in non-whites and come to defense in the faults of whites. That is why your "Equal ridicule" doesn't fall into play. And a lot of it is not proven to be true. Also In an early conversation when I first "Met" you, you once said that whites need to get away from bad seeds and I asked you "By bad seeds do you mean nonwhites?". You said yes. I don't know how long ago that was.

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On advanced search I searched my name and "Bad seed" and got this result:

We could not find any topics matching your search.

But you feel free to FIND that conversation.

Or you can dismiss that claim altogether.

And maybe you don't trust my motives enough and Bud DOES.

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You under credit races just to counter my over crediting? As I said, I don't over credit, but your claim fails because at times you make statements out of the blue that discredit other races. Not just black. I don't even have to be there. Placing all these negatives on nonwhites probably comes naturally to you being a guy of white pride. You will just have to accept the fact that you won't be able to make these claims without sounding prejudice.

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I love how you just say "I don't overcredit" and "you overcredit" and think that makes them true.

PROVE IT.

Find a post where I overcredited Whites and thoroughly disprove my claims.

Or else you can dismiss your opinions.

And regardless of whether I SOUND prejudice, it means nothing unless I really am.

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A good example would be when you were talking about white influence's on Ethiopia that Bud just picked out? Hm?

mean if you really want people to not think your racist or prejudice, it doesn't help when you associate a black person's skin with poop and black people with drugs. Wise cracks and all :P

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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A good example would be when you were talking about white influence's on Ethiopia that Bud just picked out? Hm?

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Big difference.

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mean if you really want people to not think your racist or prejudice, it doesn't help when you associate a black person's skin with poop and black people with drugs. Wise cracks and all :P

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A good example would be when you were talking about white influence's on Ethiopia that Bud just picked out? Hm?

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He didn't disprove it.
He ADDED INFORMATION.

Big difference.

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mean if you really want people to not think your racist or prejudice, it doesn't help when you associate a black person's skin with poop and black people with drugs. Wise cracks and all :P

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Jokes aren't meant to ever be taken seriously like that.

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He fixed it from the way you arranged it. Which happened to imply that whites were the heroes and the Ethiopians were ungrateful  

Also I never see you make white jokes :P

I find your jokes trollsum.

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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So I guess all your twisted posts about how whites influenced all this stuff, how other cultures were pretty much hardly anything without whites, how whites are this, whites are that. How "We must save our beautiful white culture from the "bad seeds" which are influencing them badly. You know You say you don't think whites are better but your posts say otherwise.

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He fixed it from the way you arranged it. Which happened to imply that whites were the heroes and the Ethiopians were ungrateful

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Also I never see you make white jokes :P

I find your jokes trollsum.

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He fixed it from the way you arranged it. Which happened to imply that whites were the heroes and the Ethiopians were ungrateful

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That's how you read it.
Not how I wrote it.

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Also I never see you make white jokes :P

I find your jokes trollsum.

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So?

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No that's how it was wrote. Which is why many people find your posts offensive or prejudice.  

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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No that's how it was wrote. Which is why many people find your posts offensive or prejudice.  

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If I LIED and knew it was false it would be different.

But I didn't lie.
I summarized the events.

And you didn't like my summary.

So you call me "Racist" but it's not evidence of that.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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No that's how it was wrote. Which is why many people find your posts offensive or prejudice.  

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It was written truthfully.  

If I LIED and knew it was false it would be different.  

But I didn't lie.  
I summarized the events.  

And you didn't like my summary.  

So you call me "Racist" but it's not evidence of that.

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Leaving out things to the point where it sounds negative against nonwhites plus the wording itself. There can be a point where leaving things out can change the context of the writing. If you ever took an English class.

And just because you never find what you say offensive, prejudice or racist doesn't mean the context of the way you write things aren't implying prejudice things. I don't believe you left things out by a mistake though.

Post edited at 12:21 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 by Moonscar

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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Leaving out things to the point where it sounds negative against nonwhites plus the wording itself. There can be a point where leaving things out can change the context of the writing. If you ever took an English class.

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But if it's not pro-Black it must be...

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And just because you never find what you say offensive, prejudice or racist doesn't mean the context of the way you write things aren't implying prejudice things. I don't believe you left things out by a mistake though.

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Leaving out things to the point where it sounds negative against nonwhites plus the wording itself. There can be a point where leaving things out can change the context of the writing. If you ever took an English class.

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I don't think it's negative.  

But if it's not pro-Black it must be...  

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And just because you never find what you say offensive, prejudice or racist doesn't mean the context of the way you write things aren't implying prejudice things. I don't believe you left things out by a mistake though.

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Many things others write I don't find offensive either - yet others do.  
I guess I'm just not easily offended.

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Most of the things you write lead to your lilly white world point of view.

Post edited at 12:46 pm on Jan. 10, 2009 by Moonscar

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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Most of the things you write lead to your lilly white world point of view.

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