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Just don't pay attention to it. We all knew he meant it.

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Oh, you KNEW - did you?

You just KNOW what I'm thinking...

This is exactly what I'm saying.

People use this as 'evidence' all the time and they wonder why people don't think they're credible...

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No because people aren't stupid. You just don't present yourself in a way, format your writings to imply negatives on other races while saying " Whites influenced this, Whites influenced that" and then expect people to say, "ahh he's not meaning all this, it's just a coincidence"

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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No because people aren't stupid. You just don't present yourself in a way, format your writings to imply negatives on other races while saying " Whites influenced this, Whites influenced that" and then expect people to say, "ahh he's not meaning all this, it's just a coincidence"

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But when you do the same with Negroes it's not.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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No because people aren't stupid. You just don't present yourself in a way, format your writings to imply negatives on other races while saying " Whites influenced this, Whites influenced that" and then expect people to say, "ahh he's not meaning all this, it's just a coincidence"

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It's when you give credit to Whites where the media doesn't it's racist.

But when you do the same with Negroes it's not.

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Because people like you already under represent blacks so influences etc.

I don't have a problem with giving credits to whites where it's due. But your just too much. Your so Pro white and it seems your anti-minority.

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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Implications ≠ truth.

If it SEEMS like something - that isn't proof that it's like that.

I may SEEM racist but there is no real evidence of it.

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Really, though, if you don't want people calling you racist, you'd avoid giving off these sorts of implications.  It's easy to read what you said as racist - I practically did myself.

Again, if you ever want to know why people consider you racist, take a closer look at it.  It's hardly as if you're being entirely innocent here.  If you didn't mean it, why would you say it?  If you weren't entirely sure, why would you say it?  If you left something out, why didn't you mention it?  If you gave a particular viewpoint (which you most certainly did), what's your reasoning for it?

Quote: from Moonscar at 6:57 pm on Jan. 7, 2009

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Just don't pay attention to it. We all knew he meant it. And it is true that he under represents blacks and says that people are over representing them as if they aren't meant to have any significant positives

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Oh, I dunno.  I believe he's sincere and not truly racist.  He doesn't appear to hold any prejudice, and he never holds race against anyone.  He just seems sick of people making fallacious claims that black people invented this or this when it was either hardly an invention or a very exaggurated / fallacious claim.  I think he's just sick of people telling him that he should not be proud to be white.

If you ever care to take the time to evaluate a lot of Stormfront users' reasoning for turning toward white nationalism (which I know for a fact that KR is not a member of Stormfront, but nevertheless), they often turn to white nationalism as a reaction to things like white guilt being shoved down their throats.  I've had it done to me, too, purely on the basis of me being white, though I never went that direction - instead, I simply disconnected myself from any race entirely and turned to individualism wholesale.

But there are white nationalists that do not really harbor any hatred or beliefs of superiority toward non-whites.  They exist, and they merely just wish to not interact or be around them and instead, surround themselves with their own race, as that's what they see fitting.  White nationalists have a tendency to blame racial tensions for races interacting and intermixing with each other at all, and thus believe that the solution to these problems is complete segregation of all races from each other.  Most, however, are focused only on whites (hence white nationalism) and usually don't care what non-whites do.  This is more or less KR's view (though I give him the benefit of the doubt when I don't think he always realizes the implications he gives off, such as in his negro invention thread), I believe, and it's not racist in any meaningful sense of the word.  It's just a separatist and collectivist ideology.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:57 pm on Jan. 7, 2009

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Implications ≠ truth.  

 If it SEEMS like something - that isn't proof that it's like that.  

 I may SEEM racist but there is no real evidence of it.

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Really, though, if you don't want people calling you racist, you'd avoid giving off these sorts of implications. It's easy to read what you said as racist - I practically did myself.

Again, if you ever want to know why people consider you racist, take a closer look at it. It's hardly as if you're being entirely innocent here. If you didn't mean it, why would you say it? If you weren't entirely sure, why would you say it? If you left something out, why didn't you mention it? If you gave a particular viewpoint (which you most certainly did), what's your reasoning for it?

Quote: from Moonscar at 6:57 pm on Jan. 7, 2009

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Just don't pay attention to it. We all knew he meant it. And it is true that he under represents blacks and says that people are over representing them as if they aren't meant to have any significant positives  

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Oh, I dunno. I believe he's sincere and not truly racist. He doesn't appear to hold any prejudice, and he never holds race against anyone. He just seems sick of people making fallacious claims that black people invented this or this when it was either hardly an invention or a very exaggurated / fallacious claim. I think he's just sick of people telling him that he should not be proud to be white.

If you ever care to take the time to evaluate a lot of Stormfront users' reasoning for turning toward white nationalism (which I know for a fact that KR is not a member of Stormfront, but nevertheless), they often turn to white nationalism as a reaction to things like white guilt being shoved down their throats. I've had it done to me, too, purely on the basis of me being white, though I never went that direction - instead, I simply disconnected myself from any race entirely and turned to individualism wholesale.

But there are white nationalists that do not really harbor any hatred or beliefs of superiority toward non-whites. They exist, and they merely just wish to not interact or be around them and instead, surround themselves with their own race, as that's what they see fitting. White nationalists have a tendency to blame racial tensions for races interacting and intermixing with each other at all, and thus believe that the solution to these problems is complete segregation of all races from each other. Most, however, are focused only on whites (hence white nationalism) and usually don't care what non-whites do. This is more or less KR's view (though I give him the benefit of the doubt when I don't think he always realizes the implications he gives off, such as in his negro invention thread), I believe, and it's not racist in any meaningful sense of the word. It's just a separatist and collectivist ideology.

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That's just your opinion as you take the time to write essays in every post you make  

I think different though. I don't think he doesn't know he's doing it. It seems that he is more likely trying to say something without actually saying it. Like the under representing thing you just said.

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People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Eritrea

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The boundaries of modern Eritrea and the entire region were established during the European colonial period between Italian, British and French colonialists as well as the lone landlocked African Empire of Ethiopia which found itself surrounded and its boundaries defined by said colonial powers. Ethiopia was, for a time until the Italian conquest of Ethiopia in 1935, the only independent country in Africa (with the exception of Liberia). The Kingdom of Italy created Eritrea at the end of the nineteenth century, using the classical name for the Red Sea.

Italian occupation of Massawa and formation of the colony

Later, as the Egyptians retreated out of Sudan during the Mahdist rebellion, the British brokered an agreement whereby the Egyptians could retreat through Ethiopia, and in exchange they would allow the Emperor to occupy those lowland districts that he had disputed with the Turks and Egyptians. Emperor Yohannes IV believed this included Massawa, but instead, the port was handed by the Egyptians and the British to the Italians, who united it with the already colonised port of Asseb to form a coastal Italian possession. The Italians took advantage of disorder in northern Ethiopia following the death of Emperor Yohannes IV in 1889 to occupy the highlands and established their new colony, henceforth known as Eritrea, and received recognition from Menelik II, Ethiopia's new Emperor.

The Italian possession of maritime areas previously claimed by Abyssinia/Ethiopia was formalized in 1889 with the signing of the Treaty of Wuchale with Emperor Menelik II of Ethiopia (r. 1889-1913) after the defeat of Italy by Ethiopia at the battle of Adua where Italy launched an effort to expand its possessions from Eritrea into the more fertile Abyssinian hinterland. Menelik would later renounce the Wuchale Treaty as he had been tricked by the translators to agree to making the whole of Ethiopia into an Italian protectorate. However, he was forced by circumstance to live by the tenets of Italian sovereignty over Eritrea.

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Eritrea was chosen by the Italian government to be the industrial center of the Italian East Africa. The Italian government continued to implement agricultural reforms but primarily on farms owned by Italian colonists. The Mussolini government regarded the colony as a strategic base for future aggrandizement and ruled accordingly, using Eritrea as a base to launch its 1935-1936 campaign to colonize Ethiopia.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Eritrea#Italian_colonization


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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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Really, though, if you don't want people calling you racist, you'd avoid giving off these sorts of implications. It's easy to read what you said as racist - I practically did myself.

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Again, if you ever want to know why people consider you racist, take a closer look at it. It's hardly as if you're being entirely innocent here. If you didn't mean it, why would you say it? If you weren't entirely sure, why would you say it? If you left something out, why didn't you mention it? If you gave a particular viewpoint (which you most certainly did), what's your reasoning for it?

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ethiopia is my dream !!!

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Really, though, if you don't want people calling you racist, you'd avoid giving off these sorts of implications.  It's easy to read what you said as racist - I practically did myself.

Again, if you ever want to know why people consider you racist, take a closer look at it.  It's hardly as if you're being entirely innocent here.  If you didn't mean it, why would you say it?  If you weren't entirely sure, why would you say it?  If you left something out, why didn't you mention it?  If you gave a particular viewpoint (which you most certainly did), what's your reasoning for it?

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Me reading something similar wouldn't have given the same reaction it did to you.

But that's just because we're different.

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Most, however, are focused only on whites (hence white nationalism) and usually don't care what non-whites do.

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But, being White, I find more interest in my own race (And I have more of an ability to help that race, it being my own).

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    Quote: from kidd rune at 6:57 pm on Jan. 7, 2009

       Implications ≠ truth.  

        If it SEEMS like something - that isn't proof that it's like that.  

        I may SEEM racist but there is no real evidence of it.

   Really, though, if you don't want people calling you racist, you'd avoid giving off these sorts of implications. It's easy to read what you said as racist - I practically did myself.

   Again, if you ever want to know why people consider you racist, take a closer look at it. It's hardly as if you're being entirely innocent here. If you didn't mean it, why would you say it? If you weren't entirely sure, why would you say it? If you left something out, why didn't you mention it? If you gave a particular viewpoint (which you most certainly did), what's your reasoning for it?

   Quote: from Moonscar at 6:57 pm on Jan. 7, 2009

       Just don't pay attention to it. We all knew he meant it. And it is true that he under represents blacks and says that people are over representing them as if they aren't meant to have any significant positives  

   Oh, I dunno. I believe he's sincere and not truly racist. He doesn't appear to hold any prejudice, and he never holds race against anyone. He just seems sick of people making fallacious claims that black people invented this or this when it was either hardly an invention or a very exaggurated / fallacious claim. I think he's just sick of people telling him that he should not be proud to be white.

   If you ever care to take the time to evaluate a lot of Stormfront users' reasoning for turning toward white nationalism (which I know for a fact that KR is not a member of Stormfront, but nevertheless), they often turn to white nationalism as a reaction to things like white guilt being shoved down their throats. I've had it done to me, too, purely on the basis of me being white, though I never went that direction - instead, I simply disconnected myself from any race entirely and turned to individualism wholesale.

   But there are white nationalists that do not really harbor any hatred or beliefs of superiority toward non-whites. They exist, and they merely just wish to not interact or be around them and instead, surround themselves with their own race, as that's what they see fitting. White nationalists have a tendency to blame racial tensions for races interacting and intermixing with each other at all, and thus believe that the solution to these problems is complete segregation of all races from each other. Most, however, are focused only on whites (hence white nationalism) and usually don't care what non-whites do. This is more or less KR's view (though I give him the benefit of the doubt when I don't think he always realizes the implications he gives off, such as in his negro invention thread), I believe, and it's not racist in any meaningful sense of the word. It's just a separatist and collectivist ideology.

That's just your opinion as you take the time to write essays in every post you make  

I think different though. I don't think he doesn't know he's doing it. It seems that he is more likely trying to say something without actually saying it. Like the under representing thing you just said.

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Calling someone racist isn't something you can just throw around.

It needs backing up evidence - not something you "Think."

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Not everyone reads the same as you do.
Not everyone reads the same as me.

Me reading something similar wouldn't have given the same reaction it did to you.

But that's just because we're different.

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Hence why it is imperative that you conform to a standard that everyone can understand and be mindful of what you are saying.  This is why you spend all this time in an English class learning how to write in a particular style.  It's to avoid potential misunderstandings, and to be honest, if the majority of everybody is misunderstanding you, much of the problem lies within your own writing and not everyone else.  You could phrase a lot of things you have said over the months differently which wouldn't be perceived as racist except by those who are looking to accuse racism.  And there's a number who do exist on these forums, but believe me, the way you're phrasing things is working completely against you, as it's getting people beyond the racist accusers to agree.

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This is why you spend all this time in an English class learning how to write in a particular style. It's to avoid potential misunderstandings, and to be honest, if the majority of everybody is misunderstanding you, much of the problem lies within your own writing and not everyone else.

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Really, though, if you don't want people calling you racist, you'd avoid giving off these sorts of implications. It's easy to read what you said as racist - I practically did myself.

Again, if you ever want to know why people consider you racist, take a closer look at it. It's hardly as if you're being entirely innocent here. If you didn't mean it, why would you say it? If you weren't entirely sure, why would you say it? If you left something out, why didn't you mention it? If you gave a particular viewpoint (which you most certainly did), what's your reasoning for it?

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Not everyone reads the same as you do.
Not everyone reads the same as me.

Me reading something similar wouldn't have given the same reaction it did to you.

But that's just because we're different.

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Most, however, are focused only on whites (hence white nationalism) and usually don't care what non-whites do.

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I believe each race should choose it's own destiny.
I prefer each race exists and lives fully.

But, being White, I find more interest in my own race (And I have more of an ability to help that race, it being my own).

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:57 pm on Jan. 7, 2009

  Implications ≠ truth.

  If it SEEMS like something - that isn't proof that it's like that.

  I may SEEM racist but there is no real evidence of it.

  Really, though, if you don't want people calling you racist, you'd avoid giving off these sorts of implications. It's easy to read what you said as racist - I practically did myself.

  Again, if you ever want to know why people consider you racist, take a closer look at it. It's hardly as if you're being entirely innocent here. If you didn't mean it, why would you say it? If you weren't entirely sure, why would you say it? If you left something out, why didn't you mention it? If you gave a particular viewpoint (which you most certainly did), what's your reasoning for it?

  Quote: from Moonscar at 6:57 pm on Jan. 7, 2009

  Just don't pay attention to it. We all knew he meant it. And it is true that he under represents blacks and says that people are over representing them as if they aren't meant to have any significant positives  

  Oh, I dunno. I believe he's sincere and not truly racist. He doesn't appear to hold any prejudice, and he never holds race against anyone. He just seems sick of people making fallacious claims that black people invented this or this when it was either hardly an invention or a very exaggurated / fallacious claim. I think he's just sick of people telling him that he should not be proud to be white.

  If you ever care to take the time to evaluate a lot of Stormfront users' reasoning for turning toward white nationalism (which I know for a fact that KR is not a member of Stormfront, but nevertheless), they often turn to white nationalism as a reaction to things like white guilt being shoved down their throats. I've had it done to me, too, purely on the basis of me being white, though I never went that direction - instead, I simply disconnected myself from any race entirely and turned to individualism wholesale.

  But there are white nationalists that do not really harbor any hatred or beliefs of superiority toward non-whites. They exist, and they merely just wish to not interact or be around them and instead, surround themselves with their own race, as that's what they see fitting. White nationalists have a tendency to blame racial tensions for races interacting and intermixing with each other at all, and thus believe that the solution to these problems is complete segregation of all races from each other. Most, however, are focused only on whites (hence white nationalism) and usually don't care what non-whites do. This is more or less KR's view (though I give him the benefit of the doubt when I don't think he always realizes the implications he gives off, such as in his negro invention thread), I believe, and it's not racist in any meaningful sense of the word. It's just a separatist and collectivist ideology.

That's just your opinion as you take the time to write essays in every post you make

I think different though. I don't think he doesn't know he's doing it. It seems that he is more likely trying to say something without actually saying it. Like the under representing thing you just said.

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You think.
That's the keywords.

Calling someone racist isn't something you can just throw around.

It needs backing up evidence - not something you "Think."

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Without a doubt the things you say can be taken into an offensive context. You can have more interest in your race and "help" it. But when you try to make them the center of everything and pretty much under credit non-whites. That's when I have the right to claim you are in the field of prejudice/racist  

Besides maybe that I am not the only one who finds your posts offensive to non-whites should give you a hint. I am sure your not clueless to when you are doing it. But it can't be helped with someone who is so proud of his race to pretty much try to say it is better without actually posting it word for word.

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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Without a doubt the things you say can be taken into an offensive context. You can have more interest in your race and "help" it. But when you try to make them the center of everything and pretty much under credit non-whites. That's when I have the right to claim you are in the field of prejudice/racist

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But it seems you OVERCREDIT Negroes and that, by your standards, would make YOU racist.

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Besides maybe that I am not the only one who finds your posts offensive to non-whites should give you a hint. I am sure your not clueless to when you are doing it. But it can't be helped with someone who is so proud of his race to pretty much try to say it is better without actually posting it word for word.

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Because you look at 10 things I say that contradict what you think of me and IGNORE that - and look at one other thing I say and think it "Implies" something when that's entirely impossible for you to know (Unless you read minds) and you call me racist.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"