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I summarized it.
Did I lie?

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You don't have to lie to misrepresent something.  Instead, you added irrelevent details which would skew peoples' ideas of what the war would be about and Ethiopia's general position.  And then you portrayed the Ethiopians expelling the Portuguese as if they had no reason for doing so.

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And, Bud, I think you're speaking of another conflict.
I'm speaking of the Ethiopian-Adal War, which was Muslims and Ethiopians.

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That is indeed what I'm referring to, although I was wrong to say it was just Egypt (and "Muslims" in general really isn't specific enough).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abyssinian-Adal_War

It was primarily Somalia (hardly "slave trading Arabs" BTW) and the Ottoman Empire (which would primarily be Egypt under Ottoman rule, which is why you'll see quite a few sources mix the two up) against Ethiopia and then Portugal.

Post edited at 6:30 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 by Bud2400

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NO I don't! That's what you do with white people! I just try to defend them from all your negative implications of them. But just fuck you, not tonight little boy......

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Remember when I gave you a link proving that Black "Inventions" weren't really inventions?
You said

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I looked, it didn't really disprove much, other than your an ego maniac devoted to trying to prove that whites are superior even though you deny it so many times

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Just looking at the first five I have come to the conclusion that it's a lot more credible than a chart with only a name and date like your beloved websites.

The first cites a US patent (You can check those online).
The second cites specific names of examples that you can look up yourself.
The third was labeled "Unknown" because there is no patent or any proof at all of this invention - nor does any patent for that invention exist. I don't even know what an auto-cut off switch is!
The fourth was disproven with the patent of the invention itself.
The fifth had a cited patent and more info.

Where is the lack of proof?

That's just one example.

EDIT: Disregard the third invention - it's a myth.
Granville T Woods wasn't alive in 1839, when he supposedly invented the auto-cut off switch according to
http://www.black-collegian.com/african/inventions605.shtml

He was born April 23, 1856

Post edited at 6:33 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 by kidd rune

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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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NO I don't! That's what you do with white people! I just try to defend them from all your negative implications of them. But just fuck you, not tonight little boy......

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Yes you do, actually.

Remember when I gave you a link proving that Black "Inventions" weren't really inventions?
You said

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I looked, it didn't really disprove much, other than your an ego maniac devoted to trying to prove that whites are superior even though you deny it so many times

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Just looking at the first five I have come to the conclusion that it's a lot more credible than a chart with only a name and date like your beloved websites.

The first cites a US patent (You can check those online).
The second cites specific names of examples that you can look up yourself.
The third was labeled "Unknown" because there is no patent or any proof at all of this invention - nor does any patent for that invention exist. I don't even know what an auto-cut off switch is!
The fourth was disproven with the patent of the invention itself.
The fifth had a cited patent and more info.

Where is the lack of proof?

That's just one example.

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I do? So despite the fact that You twist things around to give a different impression(which is usually negative) on a race I am the one who gives blacks too much credit? My point with the inventions still stands. But seriously troll, Go die slowly and painfully in a dith somewhere  

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You don't have to lie to misrepresent something.  Instead, you added irrelevent details which would skew peoples' ideas of what the war would be about and Ethiopia's general position.  And then you portrayed the Ethiopians expelling the Portuguese as if they had no reason for doing so.

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That is indeed what I'm referring to, although I was wrong to say it was just Egypt (and "Muslims" in general really isn't specific enough).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abyssinian-Adal_War

It was primarily Somalia (hardly "slave trading Arabs" BTW) and the Ottoman Empire (which would primarily be Egypt under Ottoman rule, which is why you'll see quite a few sources mix the two up) against Ethiopia and then Portugal.

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I do? So despite the fact that You twist things around to give a different impression(which is usually negative) on a race I am the one who gives blacks too much credit?

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And then you say no proof exists.
HA!

You won't accept it even when the US patent office slaps you in the face with it!

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My point with the inventions still stands.

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But seriously troll, Go die slowly and painfully in a dith somewhere  

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I do? So despite the fact that You twist things around to give a different impression(which is usually negative) on a race I am the one who gives blacks too much credit?

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Yes, you do.
All of those 5 inventions were FRAUDS. I found out the third one was supposedly invented BEFORE the "Inventor" was born!

And then you say no proof exists.
HA!

You won't accept it even when the US patent office slaps you in the face with it!

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My point with the inventions still stands.

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Why?
Please explain.
Or PROVE that they actually did invent them.
You can pick any 5, I don't care.

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But seriously troll, Go die slowly and painfully in a dith somewhere

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DEATH THREATS!

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I said they were improved greatly as well you may have left out. But you don't want to accept proof from anyone else either! You pull shit out of your ass and it goes back and forth.

Also no, I am not threatening to kill you. Though I do pray every night that something really bad happens to you and I kid you not on that part.

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I didn't try to portray that they had no reason to.
I just said they expelled them.

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I know it might sound very nitpicky, but by not mentioning key things like that, you are going to imply assumptions like the Ethiopians having no good reason to in its place.

After all, look at what you said:

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In 1542 the Portuguese helped the Ethiopian tribesmen fight off slave-trading Arabs.

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First of all, you characterize Ethiopia as largely a tribe.  That is not accurate.  Ethiopia was a kingdom, if not an empire, during this period.  They did not live in little huts, but rather, in cities and villages scattered throughout the countryside.  Their government was far more sophisticated than some tribal system.

Secondly, you make the Portuguese sound like they were doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.  You don't attribute any reasons why they might do this, and failure to do this is deceiving.  The Portuguese primarily went in there because they did not want to see a Christian kingdom like Ethiopia (which is the source of the whole "Prester John" legend in Europe) fall and its population forcibly converted to Islam.  I also suspect aggression against the Ottoman Empire had something to do with it as well.

Lastly, when you say "helped them fight off the slave trading Arabs", you make it sound as if it was about the Arabs coming in Ethiopia and enslaving the whole populace, and Portugal coming to the rescue.  That's simply not true - the Ethiopians were not generally not enslaved by the Arabs, or at least not to the degree of the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa.  You'd be correct in Portugal coming to Ethiopia's rescue, but you mischaracterized the war (as well as Portugal's intention) by your lack of specificity.

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Then, the Ethiopians expelled the Portuguese in 1632.

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Now, after that you've established the Portuguese came to the rescue, you present this without giving Ethiopia's reasoning for doing so.  This suggests that the Ethiopians are ungrateful, and when you suggest as to why they became impoverished afterwards, it makes it appear as if the Ethiopians deserved it.  You make no mention of the Jesuits' activity in Ethiopia and the Portuguese' backing of it.  Any source you'd read about the expulsion of Portuguese from Ethiopia would mention this.

It really doesn't take that much to add these few extra details, KR.  If you ever wonder why people think you're racist, it's things like this and it doesn't take much to see why. If DeoxysDNA overrepresents the achievements of blacks, you appear to be underrepresenting them.

Post edited at 6:50 pm on Jan. 7, 2009 by Bud2400

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:34 pm on Jan. 7, 2009

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I didn't try to portray that they had no reason to.  
I just said they expelled them.

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I know it might sound very nitpicky, but by not mentioning key things like that, you are going to imply assumptions like the Ethiopians having no good reason to in its place.

After all, look at what you said:

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In 1542 the Portuguese helped the Ethiopian tribesmen fight off slave-trading Arabs.

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First of all, you characterize Ethiopia as largely a tribe. That is not accurate. Ethiopia was a kingdom, if not an empire, during this period. They did not live in little huts, but rather, in cities and villages scattered throughout the countryside. Their government was far more sophisticated than some tribal system.

Secondly, you make the Portuguese sound like they were doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. You don't attribute any reasons why they might do this, and failure to do this is deceiving. The Portuguese primarily went in there because they did not want to see a Christian kingdom like Ethiopia (which is the source of the whole "Prester John" legend in Europe) fall and its population forcibly converted to Islam. I also suspect aggression against the Ottoman Empire had something to do with it as well.

Lastly, when you say "helped them fight off the slave trading Arabs", you make it sound as if it was about the Arabs coming in Ethiopia and enslaving the whole populace, and Portugal coming to the rescue. That's simply not true - the Ethiopians were not generally not enslaved by the Arabs, or at least not to the degree of the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa. You'd be correct in Portugal coming to Ethiopia's rescue, but you mischaracterized the war (as well as Portugal's intention) by your lack of specificity.

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Then, the Ethiopians expelled the Portuguese in 1632.

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Now, after that you've established the Portuguese came to the rescue, you present this without giving Ethiopia's reasoning for doing so. This suggests that the Ethiopians are ungrateful, and when you suggest as to why they became impoverished afterwards, it makes it appear as if the Ethiopians deserved it. You make no mention of the Jesuits' activity in Ethiopia and the Portuguese' backing of it. Any source you'd read about the expulsion of Portuguese from Ethiopia would mention this.

It really doesn't take that much to add these few extra details, KR. If you ever wonder why people think you're racist, it's things like this and it doesn't take much to see why.  If DeoxysDNA overrepresents the achievements of blacks, you appear to be underrepresenting them.

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Bolded for truth.

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People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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It really doesn't take that much to add these few extra details, KR.  If you ever wonder why peopel think you're racist, it's things like this and it doesn't take much to see why.

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I said they were improved greatly as well you may have left out. But you don't want to accept proof from anyone else either! You pull shit out of your ass and it goes back and forth.

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Someone tried with the gas mask - they said it was used in the first World War.

I disproved this as the evidence pointed to Americans using European gas masks instead of the Black invented one.

But I'd like your proof of this.

Because you haven't given any and the only one that tried failed.

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Also no, I am not threatening to kill you. Though I do pray every night that something really bad happens to you and I kid you not on that part.

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But you won't get warned probably.

They like you.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Lol.
The whole point of making that was to summarize.
You look into it and then you go about your own research.

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Be that as it may, it doesn't get rid of the implications that post gives off.

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Be that as it may, it doesn't get rid of the implications that post gives off.

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If it SEEMS like something - that isn't proof that it's like that.

I may SEEM racist but there is no real evidence of it.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:53 pm on Jan. 7, 2009

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Lol.  
 The whole point of making that was to summarize.  
 You look into it and then you go about your own research.

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Be that as it may, it doesn't get rid of the implications that post gives off.

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Just don't pay attention to it. We all knew he meant it. And it is true that he under represents blacks and says that people are over representing them as if they aren't meant to have any significant positives  

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People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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Be that as it may, it doesn't get rid of the implications that post gives off.

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Implications ≠ truth.

If it SEEMS like something - that isn't proof that it's like that.

I may SEEM racist but there is no real evidence of it.

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I think there's enough. Considering that it's done by you frequently. Also you referring to the color of black people's skin with poop    troll.

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People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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Just don't pay attention to it. We all knew he meant it.

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You just KNOW what I'm thinking...

This is exactly what I'm saying.

People use this as 'evidence' all the time and they wonder why people don't think they're credible...

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Also you referring to the color of black people's skin with poop

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