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Black people committed half the murders in 2007
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You still don't know what I am talking about. Sigh
Oh, then what ARE you talking about?

Jakey didn't answer shit - he threw in his opinion.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:03 pm on Dec. 30, 2008


You still don't know what I am talking about. Sigh
Oh, then what ARE you talking about?

Jakey didn't answer shit - he threw in his opinion.


No he didn't. He actually did answer but you didn't agree because like DeoxysDNA said. Your point of view is the only true one  

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No he didn't. He actually did answer but you didn't agree because like DeoxysDNA said. Your point of view is the only true one  
My point of view was actually "We don't know because there is no real proof" - as I said, you can't "Answer" if it's not 100% fact.

Jakey brought his beloved THEORY on why it works.
Whatever you think it is doesn't make it true.

It's a THEORY - until you can bring me a real study showing that race plays NO FACTOR in crime and poverty and intelligence while socioeconomic factors play ALL of them.

That's called logic.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:38 pm on Dec. 30, 2008


No he didn't. He actually did answer but you didn't agree because like DeoxysDNA said. Your point of view is the only true one
My point of view was actually "We don't know because there is no real proof" - as I said, you can't "Answer" if it's not 100% fact.

Jakey brought his beloved THEORY on why it works.
Whatever you think it is doesn't make it true.

It's a THEORY - until you can bring me a real study showing that race plays NO FACTOR in crime and poverty and intelligence while socioeconomic factors play ALL of them.

That's called logic.


That sure isn't how you operate though. ha  

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I wonder why you guys jump to socioeconomic factors so readily?  It's perhaps a contributing factor, but I wouldn't state that this is the case for sure without comparisons of murder rates of blacks and all other races in poverty.  If blacks score significantly higher than the others, than there is something beyond socioeconomic factors that is effecting blacks, which would more than likely be cultural issues, which gets into parenting issues and the like.

It's just like what I did in my race tipping study.  Without those stats, though, you can't really say either way and whatever you say is nothing more than an opinion.  Just remember: class issues don't explain everything.  They may be a contributing factor in some cases, but they are never the entire thing - it's never that simple.  Using only Marxist theory to explain this sort of thing leads to quite a few inherent flaws in such explanations.

Personally, I'd think if those stats were taking into account, you'd see a correlation between lower socioeconomic classes and higher murder rates, yet blacks would stand out and have higher murder rates than all other races of the same class (very much like what I found in my race tipping study). But hey, that's just my hypothesis, or opinion, or whatever you'd like to consider it.  However, it's certainly worth some consideration as things like this are hardly ever explained away by one single variable and often have multiple variables involved.

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Although white people dominate the country, black people do cause a big portion of crimes. And I am talking about serious crimes. According to statistics, this is true. Which is why people generalize black people to be bad people, because more percentage of their race's population commits crimes as compared to white people or people of other races.

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Quote: from ronpaul691 at 8:28 am on Dec. 30, 2008

Poor white people don't exist.
Thats all you can comeback with? Pretty lame.

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Quote: from Bud2400 at 9:56 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

I wonder why you guys jump to socioeconomic factors so readily?
For the same reason some jump to race and genetic factor so easily and want to claim that all blacks are genetically bound to be violent and stupid and try to use stats to prove that they are fundamentally genetically inforior and that social factors play NO role.

But what can we expect from racialists anyway.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:38 pm on Dec. 30, 2008

Jakey brought his beloved THEORY on why it works.
Whatever you think it is doesn't make it true.

Neither does YOUR THEORY.


That's called logic.
You never really tried logic. In fact you wouldn't recognize it if it hit you in the face, which it did numerous times.  

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So, how many black pedophiles and/or black serial killers have there been? Not many, and, in my opinion, those are the two worst crimes one can commit.

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For the same reason some jump to race and genetic factor so easily and want to claim that all blacks are genetically bound to be violent and stupid and try to use stats to prove that they are fundamentally genetically inforior and that social factors play NO role.

But what can we expect from racialists anyway.


Alert me when you find someone like that!


Neither does YOUR THEORY.
I don't have a theory.
I just say "We don't know."

Works out.


You never really tried logic. In fact you wouldn't recognize it if it hit you in the face, which it did numerous times.
I lol'd.
Take your own advice.


So, how many black pedophiles and/or black serial killers have there been? Not many, and, in my opinion, those are the two worst crimes one can commit.

Criminologist Eric W. Hickey says about serial killers


73% of the offenders were white, 22% African American, 3% Hispanic, 1% Asian, and 1% other

This is for the 2005 statistics so not much changed.

For Whites and Blacks to be equal - Blacks must be 14.378% of the offenders.
Therefore - per capita, Blacks are overrepresented compared to Whites in serial murders.

Pedophiles... Well I'm not even going to look at statistics for that because not all pedophiles are caught and not all rape their kids.
So dependable statistics don't exist.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 5:40 pm on Jan. 2, 2009For the same reason some jump to race and genetic factor so easily and want to claim that all blacks are genetically bound to be violent and stupid and try to use stats to prove that they are fundamentally genetically inforior and that social factors play NO role.

"Alert me when you find someone like that!"

WTF? They are all over LW. You probably don't notice because you always think people are just complaining too much and that it isn't what it seems  

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WTF? They are all over LW. You probably don't notice because you always think people are just complaining too much and that it isn't what it seems
Ignore the trolls.
Try to distinguish when people are just posting to piss some off and invite others to play along.

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I'm cracking up at how the trolls and morons only list the black and white statistics as if those are the only two races in the usa.

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