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Quote: from Joep0113 at 12:09 pm on Jan. 2, 2009

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Quote: from SpM at 12:43 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

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Quote: from Joep0113 at 8:40 pm on Jan. 1, 2009

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No Palestine's will always hate Israel and Israel will always hate Palestine. Its the way its been for hundreds of years and its not going to end any time soon, if your looking to blame someone blame the UK for splitting Israel and Palestine into two separate countries instead of making it all Israeli way back when.

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  Israel hasn't even existed for hundreds of years.

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I meant the Jewish people not Israel the country lulz, my bad.

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Keep up the lies like a good little zionist.

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For that a lot of laws have to change. Like those that forbid marriage between Palestinians and Israelis inside Israel, Those laws are so stupid and really they remind me of the Nuremberg laws in so many ways.

http://www.onejerusalem.com/2006/05/15/divided-loyalties-high-court-upholds-mixed-marriage-ban/

If ppl who love each other can't even marry and live together then things are really fucked up.
So how do you except ppl to even just get along with laws like that?

2. Is peace ever going to come to Israel? yes but for that to happen both Israeli and Palestinans BOTH would have to

- Let go of the past and all grudges
- See what is COMMON between them instead of what separates them
- Be willing to make the first move towards reconciliation and friendship

I know some ppl think Isarelis and Palestinians don't have a lot in common. But contrary to what they think there ARE a lot of Israelis who ARE semitic. Not all of them but many of them. But I guess the real problem is not even that.

I think one of the problems is that because so many Jews have been gone so many centuries ago from the area sometimes they really have a DIFFERENT CULTURE than Palestinians at this point, especially the recent Israeli immigrants from Russia after the 1990s. They have a different look on life and ideas and thinking what is important etc...

I also know some ppl think they are a different "race". But I don't even think that's the problem even if it's true. Are Indians and Pakistanis really different in race? Not that much. Yet they hate each other almost as much as Israelis and Palestinians. Sometimes even more.

So the real problem is not even that but the fact that

1. Laws in Israel are unjust and retarded against Palestinians and NEED TO CHANGE
2. The Israeli gov and the Hamas gov are more interested in destroying each other than in making things positive and good for EVERYONE (even their own ppl).
3. People get stuck in keeping grudges and hate and don't want to forgive and do the right thing.

Basically another problem is ppl who like to FUEL and INCREASE and MAINTAIN the difference and the hate and the conflict between the 2 groups for their own personal agenda (like the 2 members who posted just above me for example)

I like Golo's answer the best among the posts here.

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"Everyone helpin' each other whenever they can we makin' it happen, from nothin' to somethin'
That's how we be survivin'" - BEP

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Not sure what that has to do with the fact that you're a zionist.

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What did he lie about?

Judaism is one of the worlds oldest religions!
lmao

That is very much a truth.

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The world is only as sweet as you make it and only as terrible as you see it

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Stop equating Jew with Israeli and Muslim with Palestinian. It's dishonest.

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Quote: from whoisabs at 1:19 pm on Jan. 2, 2009

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Not sure what that has to do with the fact that you're a zionist.

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What did he lie about?

Judaism is one of the worlds oldest religions!
lmao

That is very much a truth.

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Really only the people i met that are Zionist are Jewish.

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Really only the people i met that are Zionist are Jewish.

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A good portion of Zionists aren't Jewish at all.

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When you mix together facts such as 'jews' being such a tiny global minority with the fact that many religious jews oppose zionism, it then becomes hard to point to where most of the zionist numbers come from.

Then again how many of those who call themselves 'jews' are even followers of the jewish faith?

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whoisabs i'm not sure
Guess who's back?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:07 pm on Jan. 2, 2009

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Really only the people i met that are Zionist are Jewish.

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A good portion of Zionists aren't Jewish at all.

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When you mix together facts such as 'jews' being such a tiny global minority with the fact that many religious jews oppose zionism, it then becomes hard to point to where most of the zionist numbers come from.

Then again how many of those who call themselves 'jews' are even followers of the jewish faith?

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"with the fact that many religious jews oppose zionism,"

Lmao. Many.

Just the neturei karta.
http://www.nkusa.org/

The united states and israel hold the majority of jews on the planet.
It is really not that impossible.

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The world is only as sweet as you make it and only as terrible as you see it