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Are Italians White?
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How does H9 correspond to whiteness or is H9 some kind of "arab" gene?
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HG 9, defined by the 12f2 deletion, is largely confined to caucasoid populations, with its highest frequencies being found in Middle Eastern populations.


Anyway...I've been trying to figure out the chart...what are the other numbers besides H9? What do they mean?
Look at the text - not just the picture!

The whole point of it is showing how common a nonWhite mutation is in parts of Europe

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Most I'd think are.

Most Europeans are white, eh?

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but that doesn't tell me what H9 is exactly.  Its just some random variable...but what is it??? And text is it? The more h9 the population the more closely related to middle eastern people they are?  But what does that mean? Iranians are white.

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it depends whith part of italy they live

in the north most of them are white even have blond hair and light eyes but on the south most of them are like latino


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but that doesn't tell me what H9 is exactly.  Its just some random variable...but what is it??? And text is it? The more h9 the population the more closely related to middle eastern people they are?  But what does that mean? Iranians are white.
H9 is a mutation that appeared among a non-White Caucasoid population.

Remember - Iranians may be Caucasoid with White mixture - but they aren't White.

Therefore, it indicated Middle Eastern admixture.

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woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"


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Quote: from kidd rune at 6:29 pm on Jan. 2, 2009



but that doesn't tell me what H9 is exactly. Its just some random variable...but what is it??? And text is it? The more h9 the population the more closely related to middle eastern people they are? But what does that mean? Iranians are white.

H9 is a mutation that appeared among a non-White Caucasoid population.

Remember - Iranians may be Caucasoid with White mixture - but they aren't White.

Therefore, it indicated Middle Eastern admixture.



So, if your H9 is more then say...20 you are effectively not white?

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What is N and H3?

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So, if your H9 is more then say...20 you are effectively not white?
Each individual either has H9 or doesn't.
That is an indication of nonWhite ancestry - particularly Middle Eastern.

If the number itself is high in the country than you can say Middle Easterners have had their impact on the country.


What is N and H3?

HG 3 is just a comparing mutation that has no relevance to Middle Eastern ancestry.

You can just ignore it but it was added to the chart for other purposes.

N might just be the number of people tested?

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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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I was thinking about that for N, but considering your description of how H9 is measured, unless the number is H9 in a percent of the population rather than as the actual number of people who had it, it would be impossible.  It also wouldn't make sense because some places were much more tested than others.  Many of those countries in Europe have different ethnic groups as well, which aren't specified as they are in other countries, which messed up the data a bit.  But basically, the higher the H9 and H3 the less white the population is?

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I was thinking about that for N, but considering your description of how H9 is measured, unless the number is H9 in a percent of the population rather than as the actual number of people who had it, it would be impossible.
It says:
Frequency
(%)

So it IS a percent!


It also wouldn't make sense because some places were much more tested than others.  Many of those countries in Europe have different ethnic groups as well, which aren't specified as they are in other countries, which messed up the data a bit.  But basically, the higher the H9 and H3 the less white the population is?
No no no!

1st - I didn't post any information on H3 so just ignore those numbers for now.

2nd - H9 isn't the ONLY marker to be nonWhite - it is ONE deletion that is found among Middle Easterners.

It represents Middle Eastern admixture only - and it's not a full or accurate representation of EXACTLY how much but a fuzzy average.

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Italians are the better-looking white people.

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Italians are the better-looking white people.  
Are you serious?
Italians are ugly.

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occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:20 pm on Jan. 2, 2009


Italians are the better-looking white people.  
Are you serious?  
Italians are ugly.

I beg to differ :P

And if that was a serious comment it goes against something you said in the past  

Post edited at 9:25 pm on Jan. 2, 2009 by Moonscar

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Quote: from kidd rune at 3:20 am on Jan. 3, 2009


Italians are the better-looking white people.
Are you serious?
Italians are ugly.

Sweet...so no competition

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I know many Italians and most of them look like regular white ppl, some look a little "ethnic"

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