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Your generalizing.

    which makes you prejudiced.

    which means whatever you say is tainted by your own values.

         
    which means it doesnt count.

    =)


     

    Not neccesarily. I mean if an employer is racist and a white man and black man come in for the same position, assuming the white man finished high school and the black one got a GED and the employer hires the one who did the most work, his prejudice would be validated. Which is what every white success and black failure does to me in a sense.


   he wouldnt be prejudiced, he would be biased.

   which would mean he knew what he was doing.

   =)


   

  I was saying he was prejudice to begin with and then guess what the black man didn't have a high school diploma. Would that make him unjustified in hiring the high school graduate who happened to also be white, raising his preference to the white man.


  Nope. If he preferred the man with the educational background, then by all means, higher the white guy.

  what im saying is, not all black people are lazy, or ghetto, and whatnot.

  but yea, alot of them are.


 

 I never used the word all. I simply said most and generally. Which is true according to your above statement.


Well it's ignorant to even say most without even knowing. That's something I notice that a lot of white people do. "Most are ghetto and mean!" or some crap like that. the statement itself is based on your limited knowledge......


Limited knowledge! I've gone to an almost all black school where we had lockdowns due to black students beating the shit out of each other or bringing guns to school. I lived in an income-based apartment (because guess what I'm impoverished also but I don't use drugs or steal for a living nor am I on welfare so there goes that lame-ass cop-out) and there were 99% blacks there. Two whites in the whole neighborhood me and this lady who lived in an apartment adjacent to ours. There were shootings all the time, drugs everywhere, and people who would steal while we were inside our apartment. They were that stupid. Most had a high school diploma but decided it wasn't worth getting a job because I had one and my hispanic fiance' had one. It's not a race issue obviously. And don't tell me that the stereotype of illegal mexican is less than black because it's just as bad. We actually applied ourselves and got out of the neighborhood. Our downstairs neighbor had a college degree in law! She did some sort of filing and coding for law offices. She got a job a good one that could have gotten her and her children out of their income based apartment and into a fucking house (I mean the money was about $40,000 per year starting out. I'm not trying to dispute credit for a house or whatever I'm just saying that she could afford it) or at least a decent apartment complex. She quit showing up two weeks later saying it wasn't worth the effort! Not worth the effort for her two children. I know you're going to say "it's just one person" but no that was the mentality of the entire neighborhood. Drugs and guns before their children.
If that's not enough personal experiance then I was raped by a black man when I was eight. My sister when she was 11. My friend's baby's father is black and left her plus his other daughter only to get another girl pregnant. I think I can guess what he'll do when the child is born.
There's not much I can say for the black race. But just to show both sides I have black friends. One of our good family friend's is Danny who is half black and we can hang out all of the time. He's not into drugs or anything stupid like shooting up a place for the hell of it. The poverty is a cop-out for the races overall lack of self-control and laziness.

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Your generalizing.        

     which makes you prejudiced.        

     which means whatever you say is tainted by your own values.        

         
     which means it doesnt count.        

     =)


    Not neccesarily. I mean if an employer is racist and a white man and black man come in for the same position, assuming the white man finished high school and the black one got a GED and the employer hires the one who did the most work, his prejudice would be validated. Which is what every white success and black failure does to me in a sense.


     

    he wouldnt be prejudiced, he would be biased.      

    which would mean he knew what he was doing.      

    =)


   I was saying he was prejudice to begin with and then guess what the black man didn't have a high school diploma. Would that make him unjustified in hiring the high school graduate who happened to also be white, raising his preference to the white man.


   

  Nope. If he preferred the man with the educational background, then by all means, higher the white guy.    

  what im saying is, not all black people are lazy, or ghetto, and whatnot.    

   but yea, alot of them are.


  I never used the word all. I simply said most and generally. Which is true according to your above statement.


 

 Well it's ignorant to even say most without even knowing. That's something I notice that a lot of white people do. "Most are ghetto and mean!" or some crap like that. the statement itself is based on your limited knowledge......


Limited knowledge! I've gone to an almost all black school where we had lockdowns due to black students beating the shit out of each other or bringing guns to school. I lived in an income-based apartment (because guess what I'm impoverished also but I don't use drugs or steal for a living nor am I on welfare so there goes that lame-ass cop-out) and there were 99% blacks there. Two whites in the whole neighborhood me and this lady who lived in an apartment adjacent to ours. There were shootings all the time, drugs everywhere, and people who would steal while we were inside our apartment. They were that stupid. Most had a high school diploma but decided it wasn't worth getting a job because I had one and my hispanic fiance' had one. It's not a race issue obviously. And don't tell me that the stereotype of illegal mexican is less than black because it's just as bad. We actually applied ourselves and got out of the neighborhood. Our downstairs neighbor had a college degree in law! She did some sort of filing and coding for law offices. She got a job a good one that could have gotten her and her children out of their income based apartment and into a fucking house (I mean the money was about $40,000 per year starting out. I'm not trying to dispute credit for a house or whatever I'm just saying that she could afford it) or at least a decent apartment complex. She quit showing up two weeks later saying it wasn't worth the effort! Not worth the effort for her two children. I know you're going to say "it's just one person" but no that was the mentality of the entire neighborhood. Drugs and guns before their children.  
If that's not enough personal experiance then I was raped by a black man when I was eight. My sister when she was 11. My friend's baby's father is black and left her plus his other daughter only to get another girl pregnant. I think I can guess what he'll do when the child is born.  
There's not much I can say for the black race. But just to show both sides I have black friends. One of our good family friend's is Danny who is half black and we can hang out all of the time. He's not into drugs or anything stupid like shooting up a place for the hell of it. The poverty is a cop-out for the races overall lack of self-control and laziness.


UGH your just horrible! The fact that you were raped by a black man proves how easily your mind is influenced. White people rape too you know. What are you getting at? that mostly black men rape people? Go educate yourself. Also Notice how most Virginia Tech shooting events and events that copied Virginia tech were mostly done by white people. That means blacks aren't the only ones bringing guns to school. There have been more than 3 Virginia tech copycats. Most of them being white. Don't judge blacks for being on welfare, I have already explained the economic difference in races. There are ghetto area's in black communities that do have drug sellers and crime. Does that mean more blacks sell drugs? No! Does that give you the right to judge all black people and claim that most are ghetto? Hell no especially not that! I don't care if you went to an all black school and what not. That doesn't automatically mean you have the knowledge to say all blacks are like that. Besides that, your implying like a moron that most blacks steal for a living and shoot up places. I don't think stereotype is good enough of a word! Stop talking as if blacks are the only ones who do these things and notice how you are only focusing on poor blacks who live in the ghetto. There are many blacks I know that work hard for their education so you are insulting all blacks when you talk so blindly. You don't know every black person in the world. You try to base fact over the experiences of one person which is yourself, and you focus on black people that have little money and live in run down neighborhoods and you think it represents all black people. Please go educate yourself because it shocks me how ignorant humans can be. Also by the way blacks are not the only ones on welfare now a days. I think you might even need help because that "Raped by a black man" thing is probably effecting the way you think about my race. please be good to yourself and help yourself.........

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Your generalizing.

      which makes you prejudiced.

      which means whatever you say is tainted by your own values.

           
      which means it doesnt count.

      =)


       

     Not neccesarily. I mean if an employer is racist and a white man and black man come in for the same position, assuming the white man finished high school and the black one got a GED and the employer hires the one who did the most work, his prejudice would be validated. Which is what every white success and black failure does to me in a sense.


    he wouldnt be prejudiced, he would be biased.

    which would mean he knew what he was doing.

    =)


     

    I was saying he was prejudice to begin with and then guess what the black man didn't have a high school diploma. Would that make him unjustified in hiring the high school graduate who happened to also be white, raising his preference to the white man.


   Nope. If he preferred the man with the educational background, then by all means, higher the white guy.

   what im saying is, not all black people are lazy, or ghetto, and whatnot.

    but yea, alot of them are.


   

  I never used the word all. I simply said most and generally. Which is true according to your above statement.


  Well it's ignorant to even say most without even knowing. That's something I notice that a lot of white people do. "Most are ghetto and mean!" or some crap like that. the statement itself is based on your limited knowledge......


 

 Limited knowledge! I've gone to an almost all black school where we had lockdowns due to black students beating the shit out of each other or bringing guns to school. I lived in an income-based apartment (because guess what I'm impoverished also but I don't use drugs or steal for a living nor am I on welfare so there goes that lame-ass cop-out) and there were 99% blacks there. Two whites in the whole neighborhood me and this lady who lived in an apartment adjacent to ours. There were shootings all the time, drugs everywhere, and people who would steal while we were inside our apartment. They were that stupid. Most had a high school diploma but decided it wasn't worth getting a job because I had one and my hispanic fiance' had one. It's not a race issue obviously. And don't tell me that the stereotype of illegal mexican is less than black because it's just as bad. We actually applied ourselves and got out of the neighborhood. Our downstairs neighbor had a college degree in law! She did some sort of filing and coding for law offices. She got a job a good one that could have gotten her and her children out of their income based apartment and into a fucking house (I mean the money was about $40,000 per year starting out. I'm not trying to dispute credit for a house or whatever I'm just saying that she could afford it) or at least a decent apartment complex. She quit showing up two weeks later saying it wasn't worth the effort! Not worth the effort for her two children. I know you're going to say "it's just one person" but no that was the mentality of the entire neighborhood. Drugs and guns before their children.
 If that's not enough personal experiance then I was raped by a black man when I was eight. My sister when she was 11. My friend's baby's father is black and left her plus his other daughter only to get another girl pregnant. I think I can guess what he'll do when the child is born.
 There's not much I can say for the black race. But just to show both sides I have black friends. One of our good family friend's is Danny who is half black and we can hang out all of the time. He's not into drugs or anything stupid like shooting up a place for the hell of it. The poverty is a cop-out for the races overall lack of self-control and laziness.


UGH your just horrible! The fact that you were raped by a black man proves how easily your mind is influenced. White people rape too you know. What are you getting at? that mostly black men rape people? Go educate yourself. Also Notice how most Virginia Tech shooting events and events that copied Virginia tech were mostly done by white people. That means blacks aren't the only ones bringing guns to school. There have been more than 3 Virginia tech copycats. Most of them being white. Don't judge blacks for being on welfare, I have already explained the economic difference in races. There are ghetto area's in black communities that do have drug sellers and crime. Does that mean more blacks sell drugs? No! Does that give you the right to judge all black people and claim that most are ghetto? Hell no especially not that! I don't care if you went to an all black school and what not. That doesn't automatically mean you have the knowledge to say all blacks are like that. Besides that, your implying like a moron that most blacks steal for a living and shoot up places. I don't think stereotype is good enough of a word! Stop talking as if blacks are the only ones who do these things and notice how you are only focusing on poor blacks who live in the ghetto. There are many blacks I know that work hard for their education so you are insulting all blacks when you talk so blindly. You don't know every black person in the world. You try to base fact over the experiences of one person which is yourself, and you focus on black people that have little money and live in run down neighborhoods and you think it represents all black people. Please go educate yourself because it shocks me how ignorant humans can be. Also by the way blacks are not the only ones on welfare now a days. I think you might even need help because that "Raped by a black man" thing is probably effecting the way you think about my race. please be good to yourself and help yourself.........


I have never said all. How about I concede to most blacks I know act this certain way but no, it does not portray nearly all black people around the world by any means.  I'm basing this off of my experiance and my initial post was for the ghettofab black people.

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Your generalizing.          

      which makes you prejudiced.          

      which means whatever you say is tainted by your own values.          

             
      which means it doesnt count.          

      =)


      Not neccesarily. I mean if an employer is racist and a white man and black man come in for the same position, assuming the white man finished high school and the black one got a GED and the employer hires the one who did the most work, his prejudice would be validated. Which is what every white success and black failure does to me in a sense.


       

     he wouldnt be prejudiced, he would be biased.        

     which would mean he knew what he was doing.        

     =)


    I was saying he was prejudice to begin with and then guess what the black man didn't have a high school diploma. Would that make him unjustified in hiring the high school graduate who happened to also be white, raising his preference to the white man.


     

    Nope. If he preferred the man with the educational background, then by all means, higher the white guy.      

    what im saying is, not all black people are lazy, or ghetto, and whatnot.      

    but yea, alot of them are.


   I never used the word all. I simply said most and generally. Which is true according to your above statement.


   

  Well it's ignorant to even say most without even knowing. That's something I notice that a lot of white people do. "Most are ghetto and mean!" or some crap like that. the statement itself is based on your limited knowledge......


  Limited knowledge! I've gone to an almost all black school where we had lockdowns due to black students beating the shit out of each other or bringing guns to school. I lived in an income-based apartment (because guess what I'm impoverished also but I don't use drugs or steal for a living nor am I on welfare so there goes that lame-ass cop-out) and there were 99% blacks there. Two whites in the whole neighborhood me and this lady who lived in an apartment adjacent to ours. There were shootings all the time, drugs everywhere, and people who would steal while we were inside our apartment. They were that stupid. Most had a high school diploma but decided it wasn't worth getting a job because I had one and my hispanic fiance' had one. It's not a race issue obviously. And don't tell me that the stereotype of illegal mexican is less than black because it's just as bad. We actually applied ourselves and got out of the neighborhood. Our downstairs neighbor had a college degree in law! She did some sort of filing and coding for law offices. She got a job a good one that could have gotten her and her children out of their income based apartment and into a fucking house (I mean the money was about $40,000 per year starting out. I'm not trying to dispute credit for a house or whatever I'm just saying that she could afford it) or at least a decent apartment complex. She quit showing up two weeks later saying it wasn't worth the effort! Not worth the effort for her two children. I know you're going to say "it's just one person" but no that was the mentality of the entire neighborhood. Drugs and guns before their children.    
  If that's not enough personal experiance then I was raped by a black man when I was eight. My sister when she was 11. My friend's baby's father is black and left her plus his other daughter only to get another girl pregnant. I think I can guess what he'll do when the child is born.    
  There's not much I can say for the black race. But just to show both sides I have black friends. One of our good family friend's is Danny who is half black and we can hang out all of the time. He's not into drugs or anything stupid like shooting up a place for the hell of it. The poverty is a cop-out for the races overall lack of self-control and laziness.


 

 UGH your just horrible! The fact that you were raped by a black man proves how easily your mind is influenced. White people rape too you know. What are you getting at? that mostly black men rape people? Go educate yourself. Also Notice how most Virginia Tech shooting events and events that copied Virginia tech were mostly done by white people. That means blacks aren't the only ones bringing guns to school. There have been more than 3 Virginia tech copycats. Most of them being white. Don't judge blacks for being on welfare, I have already explained the economic difference in races. There are ghetto area's in black communities that do have drug sellers and crime. Does that mean more blacks sell drugs? No! Does that give you the right to judge all black people and claim that most are ghetto? Hell no especially not that! I don't care if you went to an all black school and what not. That doesn't automatically mean you have the knowledge to say all blacks are like that. Besides that, your implying like a moron that most blacks steal for a living and shoot up places. I don't think stereotype is good enough of a word! Stop talking as if blacks are the only ones who do these things and notice how you are only focusing on poor blacks who live in the ghetto. There are many blacks I know that work hard for their education so you are insulting all blacks when you talk so blindly. You don't know every black person in the world. You try to base fact over the experiences of one person which is yourself, and you focus on black people that have little money and live in run down neighborhoods and you think it represents all black people. Please go educate yourself because it shocks me how ignorant humans can be. Also by the way blacks are not the only ones on welfare now a days. I think you might even need help because that "Raped by a black man" thing is probably effecting the way you think about my race. please be good to yourself and help yourself.........


I have never said all. How about I concede to most blacks I know act this certain way but no, it does not portray nearly all black people around the world by any means. I'm basing this off of my experiance and my initial post was for the ghettofab black people.


It's still a very ignorant and clueless post. Besides the rules still applies to other races as I have said. You said " You and your race look stupid" and last time I checked, the ghetto blacks are not the only members of the black race. You have made so many stereotypes in your post it's too late to try to go back. Just except your own ignorance and learn something from this conversation. Cause I can tell you now, you are way off on the discussion of black people. There are factors that a lot of people do not know about that play a role in why the world is how it is. People like you need to be more sensitive and understanding because your whole way of thinking is exactly why races hate one another.

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All I'm saying is that there are alot of people who don't like blacks for good reason. It's not an ignorant clueless post. An observation followed by a hypothesis is a scientifically acceptable method for making a conclusion (if you've ever taken a science class you should know this). I made an observation (not of all black people but of a set group of black people, as scientists do) and found that about 80% of them act a certain way i.e. ghetto. Therefore my conclusion is that most black people act this way and make a living stealing, doing and selling drugs, and just overall violence. If you don't like it because it doesn't include "all" black people then tough. No real scientist would include all black people either. But I guarentee if they do a controlled study (somewhat of a man off the street thing) with 100 black people 80 of them would act this way.

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All I'm saying is that there are alot of people who don't like blacks for good reason. It's not an ignorant clueless post. An observation followed by a hypothesis is a scientifically acceptable method for making a conclusion (if you've ever taken a science class you should know this). I made an observation (not of all black people but of a set group of black people, as scientists do) and found that about 80% of them act a certain way i.e. ghetto. Therefore my conclusion is that most black people act this way and make a living stealing, doing and selling drugs, and just overall violence. If you don't like it because it doesn't include "all" black people then tough. No real scientist would include all black people either. But I guarentee if they do a controlled study (somewhat of a man off the street thing) with 100 black people 80 of them would act this way.

If you took a science class you would know that your little " theory" lacks enough data to even say 100 out of 80 would act ghetto and steal. Ok then, since there are so many racist/prejudice whit people like you around, maybe I should say that if I get 100 white people, 80 of them would act this way since there are a lot of you guys in the world. Though I am not going to do that because I know better unlike you. Go back to science and Maybe even history class please.

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All I'm saying is that there are alot of people who don't like blacks for good reason. It's not an ignorant clueless post. An observation followed by a hypothesis is a scientifically acceptable method for making a conclusion (if you've ever taken a science class you should know this). I made an observation (not of all black people but of a set group of black people, as scientists do) and found that about 80% of them act a certain way i.e. ghetto. Therefore my conclusion is that most black people act this way and make a living stealing, doing and selling drugs, and just overall violence. If you don't like it because it doesn't include "all" black people then tough. No real scientist would include all black people either. But I guarentee if they do a controlled study (somewhat of a man off the street thing) with 100 black people 80 of them would act this way.

If you took a science class you would know that your little " theory" lacks enough data to even say 100 out of 80 would act ghetto and steal. Ok then, since there are so many racist/prejudice whit people like you around, maybe I should say that if I get 100 white people, 80 of them would act this way since there are a lot of you guys in the world. Though I am not going to do that because I know better unlike you. Go back to science and Maybe even history class please.



I got straight A's through Physics and AP Gov. I think I can recognize good data. And by observing say 100 black people I found that 80 of them acted a certain way. You're always going to be in favor of your race no matter what stupid things they do though. So you're biased.

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Quote: from Chava at 7:12 am on Nov. 28, 2008

All I'm saying is that there are alot of people who don't like blacks for good reason. It's not an ignorant clueless post. An observation followed by a hypothesis is a scientifically acceptable method for making a conclusion (if you've ever taken a science class you should know this). I made an observation (not of all black people but of a set group of black people, as scientists do) and found that about 80% of them act a certain way i.e. ghetto. Therefore my conclusion is that most black people act this way and make a living stealing, doing and selling drugs, and just overall violence. If you don't like it because it doesn't include "all" black people then tough. No real scientist would include all black people either. But I guarentee if they do a controlled study (somewhat of a man off the street thing) with 100 black people 80 of them would act this way.
 

If you took a science class you would know that your little " theory" lacks enough data to even say 100 out of 80 would act ghetto and steal. Ok then, since there are so many racist/prejudice whit people like you around, maybe I should say that if I get 100 white people, 80 of them would act this way since there are a lot of you guys in the world. Though I am not going to do that because I know better unlike you. Go back to science and Maybe even history class please.



I got straight A's through Physics and AP Gov. I think I can recognize good data. And by observing say 100 black people I found that 80 of them acted a certain way. You're always going to be in favor of your race no matter what stupid things they do though. So you're biased.

You should not be talking about biased. you being raped by a black man obviously throws off your judgment. It has nothing to do with me supporting my race no matter what. You are extremely prejudice and I would like to see these statistics you speak so dearly about....

Seriously please see a psychiatrist, brush up your knowledge on African Americans since you seem to feel free to make all these biased stereotypes and pass them off as facts. Really, don't talk about Biased.......


Also it doesn't matter if you get A's in whatever. Your judgment can still be tainted due to ignorance and your biased point of view (you being white and easily making stereotypes on another race which you know little about based on the post I have been reading)

I am not trying to be harsh, I just think you really need to see someone because your views prove that you are not well in some places....

You can't use data to survey things like " 7 out of 13 white girls are preppy". And for the record I can be on both white and black sides but it seems that on this site there are more anti-blacks then there are anti-whites.....

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It's not just this site. My fiance' feels the same way. My neighbor across from us FROM AFRICA (Morocco and he's somewhat middle eastern looking with the olive skin tone but not black) came over to borrow some DVDs and told us about the "nigger slut" who lived next door to us. No provocation on our part. There are many many people who feel this way and there has to be a reason. Either we're all wrong in our observations or there is something wrong with black culture in America.

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Africa is aids ridden and in poverty with very limited opportunity for education, because of the fact that they are in a dark age, you see the worst in humanity, like the Jews stampeding each other for bread during the holocaust.

Find a nation which is wealthy, offers good education, and is predominantly black, and see if their behavior is the same. In Europe's past the white peasants were even more 'gangster' than blacks today, and if we learn anything from this historical fact it's that anyone in the lowest echelon in wealth and education is far more likely to appear and act uncivilized and stupid than those who don't suffer the same barriers. For your argument to hold water you'd have to prove that whites in the same shifty situation as a poor black were still model citizens who did not appear stupid. Naturally that's not the case, and we just ignore the fact that whites in the same situation are just as 'lazy' and stupid and gangster and everything else. Your racism gives you blinders to this reality, apparently.


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Quote: from medjai at 3:08 pm on Dec. 4, 2008

Africa is aids ridden and in poverty with very limited opportunity for education, because of the fact that they are in a dark age, you see the worst in humanity, like the Jews stampeding each other for bread during the holocaust.

Find a nation which is wealthy, offers good education, and is predominantly black, and see if their behavior is the same. In Europe's past the white peasants were even more 'gangster' than blacks today, and if we learn anything from this historical fact it's that anyone in the lowest echelon in wealth and education is far more likely to appear and act uncivilized and stupid than those who don't suffer the same barriers. For your argument to hold water you'd have to prove that whites in the same shifty situation as a poor black were still model citizens who did not appear stupid. Naturally that's not the case, and we just ignore the fact that whites in the same situation are just as 'lazy' and stupid and gangster and everything else. Your racism gives you blinders to this reality, apparently.


Last year we didn't even have a place to sleep that was warm for us and our then 7 month old son. We had very little food and very little money. We lived in a predominately black neighborhood scared for our lives because of all of the crime. We never stole, we never did drugs, and we never acted anything like the people we were living around. My fiance' had a job, just a shitty one and we weren't on welfare. Everyone else had EBT cards and free housing where we lived. None worked to get a job or better themselves, they just sat and did drugs all day while their kids (sometimes just in diapers) ran the streets of this drug addicts dream of an apartment complex. I can say we were in a desperate situation even unable to pay for our heat or eat much other than ramen noodles because they were cheap. This was when gas was $4 a gallon so most of our money was spent on gas/rent. I can say we are white and El Salvadorean and we weren't nearly as savage as the blacks who lived in the same apartment complex as us.

And what about the blacks of America? Even being poor in America is like being rich in some parts of Africa. There's no reason for savage behavior here. If you don't have food every few blocks there's a foodbank or if you qualify foodstamps. Need clothes? Local churches and the Salvation Army will hook you up.  Drug addiction? Free health care to those with no income via Caresource or Molina. No reason for savage behaviour here, yet they act worse here than in some places in Africa. Killing each other over a Playstation 2. There's a place near here called Wedgewood. It's in Columbus, Ohio (I don't live anywhere near there so that the mods aren't in an uproar about the location.). It was on the news a few months ago that some black guy shot another black guy to steal his Playstation 2. If that's not barbaric for no reason I don't know what is. So go on with your cop-outs but there is no reason, poverty or not.

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There is a difference between noting an apparent or real difference between two races and concluding that this difference is down to race.

The ability to ignore (often obvious) confounding variables is the racist's greatest ability.

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I don't see logic, i see being racist

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Quote: from Chava at 5:17 pm on Dec. 4, 2008

It's not just this site. My fiance' feels the same way. My neighbor across from us FROM AFRICA (Morocco and he's somewhat middle eastern looking with the olive skin tone but not black) came over to borrow some DVDs and told us about the "nigger slut" who lived next door to us. No provocation on our part. There are many many people who feel this way and there has to be a reason. Either we're all wrong in our observations or there is something wrong with black culture in America.

It's mostly just people trying to throw all of the weight of the world's problems on one particular group. My good friend surprised me the other day saying "Jeff....I gotta say most of yer race is so disrespectful." It annoyed me it did...but I didn't get a temper I just kinda shit-tested him "And whites aren't just as disrespectful?"  

Turns out the only reason he said that was we were at the Marta station (predominately black) there were a few people we passed by who were being loud on the phone.

He has a history of getting annoyed at small things, but anytime we come by a couple of white kids shouting at the top of their lungs and acting obnoxious...it's not a racial issue.

It's just so easy to blame an entire group of people...and I've come to accept the fact that some people are just too shallow when it comes to race. (That's one of the problems with having white buddies...you gotta listen to them complain so much.)

See what I did there? And I could be in a large circle of black friends saying all this stuff and the more and more we find reasons as to why so and so is awful the more we begin to believe they are the worst thing to happen in society. How else do you think a black man had the nerve to go on LIVE television and announce to exterminate all white people. By your logic there must be something wrong with caucasians as well, else why would he go  to such lengths to make that public announcement?

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Quote: from Chava at 9:12 pm on Nov. 27, 2008

They nearly always choose gangster, drugs, or some ghetto dance movies to the greater films of our time like DaVinci Code and Passion of the Christ (I haven't seen movies in a while but I know the ones from 2006) and now Twilight. There are almost no good portrayals of blacks anywhere in society and mostly black neighborhoods are drug and crime ridden armpits of society.

Uhm are you even aware of how much whites have contributed to the praise of crime in the media? What's that show that won 5 golden globes "The Sopranos"?

Why consistently mention the negatives associated with blacks and consistently mention the positives associated with whites?

Little Bill, The Cosby Show, Cooley High, Sparkle, Proud Family, Smart Guy, etc. all black shows and movies with a general positive message.

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