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What's the point of racial purity? (hey kidd rune)
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I can understand if it's an arbitrary preference. But if it's not about supremacy, then why is it such a big deal? Why does it even exist as a principle?

Or is it always supremist, fundamentally?


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People have an innate fear of things that are different?

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Personally I think that it's not so much about the point... It's about the Prejudice, which turns into discrimination, which gradually escalates.

People are brought up or somehow pick up this mentality and then start to act upon it. People can have preferences, and that's understandable, but let's not confuse preferences with prejuidices and discrimination.

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Quote: from greatescape11 at 5:47 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

People have an innate fear of things that are different?

That's not enough for a principle though (obviously). Lol so I wanted to hear from kidd rune without filtering through all of that "u r racist" "stfu dumbass" and quote pyramids in the other threads.


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I'm pretty sure it's just about poor education, or at least at it's fundamental basis, because the uneducated, don't understand why differences exist, then others listen because they are gullible, at whoch point other people join in just because they see the large numbers that already ascribe to it

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Quote: from greatescape11 at 7:47 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

People have an innate fear of things that are different?

Actually, it's quite the opposite, the reason they wish to be supreme is to be seperate, to stand out from the other races.

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Quote: from iJeannie at 5:49 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Personally I think that it's not so much about the point... It's about the Prejudice, which turns into discrimination, which gradually escalates.  

People are brought up or somehow pick up this mentality and then start to act upon it. People can have preferences, and that's understandable, but let's not confuse preferences with prejuidices and discrimination.


That's exactly the distinction I'm trying to test, because White Nationalists will often shy away from the "prejudiced" stance to say that the White people are just trying to protect their kind from dilution.. Well, why bother?  


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I guess I can't see racial purity as an end in itself. I can appreciate it theoretically, but I can't see how anyone can pursue that as an end in itself without also carrying prejudice.


But the kid's not answering to me! Rah.

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I never said anything about racial purity - I'm not a one-dropper.

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Of course it's not....but it's enough to put it into practice.  You get someone who is verbose and charismatic who can explain that "the outsiders" are dangerous and must not be mixed into mainstream society....in combination with people who are willing to follow that line of thought, and bam.  It's basic in-group/out-group cognition.

From that stems supremacism.

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Quote: from kidd rune at 5:55 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

I never said anything about racial purity - I'm not a one-dropper.

So if it's about supremacy, and the individual people seek mates who are, on average, on par, then does that work out?


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Quote: from tell me again at 8:52 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from iJeannie at 5:49 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Personally I think that it's not so much about the point... It's about the Prejudice, which turns into discrimination, which gradually escalates.

 People are brought up or somehow pick up this mentality and then start to act upon it. People can have preferences, and that's understandable, but let's not confuse preferences with prejuidices and discrimination.


That's exactly the distinction I'm trying to test, because White Nationalists will often shy away from the "prejudiced" stance to say that the White people are just trying to protect their kind from dilution.. Well, why bother?


Those are just excuses. They can't deny they have a prejudice... AND that they are acting on it; AKA discrimination. WHY SUGAR COAT IT.

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Quote: from TheLastMagister at 7:52 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

Quote: from greatescape11 at 7:47 pm on Nov. 25, 2008

People have an innate fear of things that are different?

Actually, it's quite the opposite, the reason they wish to be supreme is to be seperate, to stand out from the other races.

Seperate, as in better.  And better, as in apart from everything that is "different" from the norm.

Semantics.

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So if it's about supremacy,
It isn't.


and the individual people seek mates who are, on average, on par, then does that work out?
What do you mean by this?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 5:57 pm on Nov. 25, 2008


So if it's about supremacy,
It isn't.  


and the individual people seek mates who are, on average, on par, then does that work out?
What do you mean by this?

Then what is it about?  

The 2nd quote only follows the 1st.


ETA: I just looked at some of your posts and noticed that you don't actually ever say your stance. What is it then? Or do you only dispel wisdom on where others went wrong, but don't settle on a view? Your retorts sound racist, but technically are not quite, so do you actually have a view, or do you just argue against everything?

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