What's the point of racial purity? (hey kidd rune) -- LiveWire Teen Forums

Your the one that's false. you don't have to change your culture to share it with other Ethnicity's in your country. It can be done through friends, marriage and other ways and still be maintained. You have developed your own fear of losing your culture. There are people that have interracial marriage that get the best of both worlds. Why don't you realize for a change instead of thinking you already know

You don't have to change it to share - but to fit in.
If I don't learn Spanish soon and continue to live here - I won't be able to do anything really.

whites took over this land first, so it should be there country

Never have I said this - I want a nation in EUROPE - not the USA.

The USA, to me, is a lost cause.

whites created these inventions, so no one else deserves to use it

Wrong again. Whites invented and should be given credit - but anyone can use an invention.

whites built modern societies, while other races lived in grass or mudd huts.

Some races lived in mud/stick huts and others didn't while Whites created their civilizations.

whites are smarter.

Never said this.

How can whites take credit for the "hard work" when they didn't do anything. The slaves should be given the credit. Don't get mad when foriegn people immigrate to your white nations (Europe or US). Whites have been conquering Nonwhite nations for centuries and instilling their culture on to the natives. The white race has done more bad than good in the past. Can you forgive your race for what they have done? The native american, aborgines, and hawaiian population are decreasing, how did this happen? Maybe it was your ancestors that wiped their people away?

Whites did A LOT. THey didn't pick cotton - but they created the nations from the ground up with laws, leadership, and effort - they didn't pick cotton because someone told them to - they created the nation because they WANTED to.

And Whites didn't take Europe from anyone.

Whites have done more bad than good? PROVE it.

Amerinds are actually increasing in South America now - and only about 6% actually lived in the USA at one time.

Hawaiians are steady if not slowly growing. They have stopped mixing with non-Hawaiians (good for them) and are now increasing numbers.

The Australoids attacked Whites the first time they saw them.

They rape children in their little communities that are very similar to the stone age civilizations they had beforehand.

Whites don't really want anything to do with them - their population isn't really falling either.

We live in a day of age, where different races can have an opportunity to live a good life. Why should living a good life only benefit your people? You seem very self centered and inhumane. Makes me wonder if you have a heart?

Where they CAN have a good life - but they can also have a BAD one.

My race isn't having that good of a life - it's numbers are declining.

And if you think being nonwhite is easier than being white....then paint yourself black, or have an eye change to look East Asian or get a dark tan to look Mesitzo/hispanic.

I'd rather not...

I mean one in which people are not judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character.
To me, the only important thing is the character of a person. I don't mind what music they listen to or where their parents are from. I don't mind if my black friends listen to music written by a band from London, similarly I don't expect anyone to have a problem with me listening to Cuban jazz. To worry about such things to the point where you want to punish people for wearing the wrong clothes or listening to the wrong music or being of the wrong race makes you a sad, sad man who needs help.

Character and race are two different things. You imply a a conflict between race and character, as if one necessarily excluded or was inconsistent with the other, an implication reminiscent of the supposed conflict between physical reality and a 'higher' or superior spiritual reality which should be given beforehand, with race belonging to the physical realm and character to the spiritual.

But, race AND character are part of what we are - each judged and determined by its own terms and standards. To say that racial judgements shouldn't happen denies racial rights, racial values, and the love of race which promotes racial preservation.

From: Many Mansions
There is no conflict between race and character, and it is dishonest to pretend otherwise, and immoral to use character as an argument to justify the violation of the racial right to continued life, existence and preservation, as it is to use claims of a supposed (and perhaps imaginary) 'higher' spiritual reality to promote actions that are destructive of the physical and material reality in which we exist. In fact, one of the primary measures of morality and character should be respect for the rights of others, and this includes respect for the rights of other races, and particularly their right to life. Good character and morality should be consistent with the Golden Rule of live and let live, and therefore inconsistent with the denial or violation of the rights of other races to continued life, preservation and independence.

So you keep saying. Genetically speaking, if alleles or genes exist that can be called "black" genes/alleles or "white" genes/alleles etc. then you are quite incorrect to say that [white alleles/genes] cannot exist outisde a [white] person. You are wrong. But hey, what's new?

They sure can exist outside of a White! That's common sense.

But are the PEOPLE White?

Is the race still alive inside of others?

No - they aren't. Races deserve to exist how they have been - as a people not intermixed and pushed down by other people and their genetics.

What a laughable load of bullshit. Why the fuck would anyone want to suffer living in what you describe as a "white" society when there is the rest of the world out there to be explored? So many different people, places, foods, music, sights? I just can't fathom why someone would want such a shitty life, it's ironic you've been accusing me of being self-destructive! Wake up, look at your life. Look at the life you're planning. Historically without cultural shifts the UK would be nothing like it is today. Looking to the future, how can we deny our children the same beauty we've experienced from the rest of the world? Are we going to condemn them to a life of miserable monotony in a homogenous and controlled state whipped into line, everyone doign exactly the same thing and mixing with the same people for some misguided and unscientific ideology of "purity"?
Please, shoot me now.

Well - you're assuming too much.

Others would be allowed to visit the White country - and Whites would be allowed to leave that country.

Nobody would be forced to live in that country either.

And I would love to see other cultures - I have an interest in Chinese and Japanese cultures myself.

But, I would go to JAPAN or CHINA to see it.

And the rest of that is filled with off-track assumptions.

But, if Whites become extinct and their culture is changed and altered so bad it's almost nonexistent with immigrants - will our children be able to see those cultures fully?

If Whites mix out - will our children be able to see the same beautiful races WE saw?

I don't want race to be unknown. I currently attend a university that has the biggest genetics department in the country. I'm fairly sure we're one of the few most important genetics research centres in the world. Genetics (and as a part of that, race) is extremely useful and interesting. I love learning about it.
What I want, and what most reasonable people also want, is for a person's genetics not to be used as a basis for judging their character. Why? Because this is racist. Is racism bad? It is if you want to live in a free and fair society.

I don't want people to be judged by genetics - but I DO want those races to have a continued existence.

Because it will kill you, culturally and pyschologically.

Culturally - nope. I will have the same culture I do now - but I will have experienced other cultures on the way.

Psychologically? Well - I guess you came to that conclusion with all the [incorrect] assumptions you had...

Your life is not dependent on your race. Your death is not the same as the loss of your race. Me saying that I don't give a fuck about race (for example, what music someone listens to or what colour their skin is) is not the same as me saying I don't want to die. If you can't see this you're beyond help from me, this is the cultural and pyschological death that I am refering to. It's sad, I've seen it happen before, and some people do pull through. They are able to live a relatively normal life being able to mix with people different from themselves and have new experiences and generally live their life to the full. You're young, I assume, I hope you can pull through this too.

But WHY should race not exist?

WHY should people not be able to live with only their race if they want to (Yet FULLY able to leave or visit other places)?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 10:47 am on Nov. 28, 2008

Your the one that's false. you don't have to change your culture to share it with other Ethnicity's in your country. It can be done through friends, marriage and other ways and still be maintained. You have developed your own fear of losing your culture. There are people that have interracial marriage that get the best of both worlds. Why don't you realize for a change instead of thinking you already know
You don't have to change it to share - but to fit in.
If I don't learn Spanish soon and continue to live here - I won't be able to do anything really.

whites took over this land first, so it should be there country
Never have I said this - I want a nation in EUROPE - not the USA.
The USA, to me, is a lost cause.

whites created these inventions, so no one else deserves to use it
Wrong again. Whites invented and should be given credit - but anyone can use an invention.

whites built modern societies, while other races lived in grass or mudd huts.
Some races lived in mud/stick huts and others didn't while Whites created their civilizations.

whites are smarter.
Never said this.

How can whites take credit for the "hard work" when they didn't do anything. The slaves should be given the credit. Don't get mad when foriegn people immigrate to your white nations (Europe or US). Whites have been conquering Nonwhite nations for centuries and instilling their culture on to the natives. The white race has done more bad than good in the past. Can you forgive your race for what they have done? The native american, aborgines, and hawaiian population are decreasing, how did this happen? Maybe it was your ancestors that wiped their people away?
Whites did A LOT. THey didn't pick cotton - but they created the nations from the ground up with laws, leadership, and effort - they didn't pick cotton because someone told them to - they created the nation because they WANTED to.
And Whites didn't take Europe from anyone.
Whites have done more bad than good? PROVE it.
Amerinds are actually increasing in South America now - and only about 6% actually lived in the USA at one time.
Hawaiians are steady if not slowly growing. They have stopped mixing with non-Hawaiians (good for them) and are now increasing numbers.
The Australoids attacked Whites the first time they saw them.
They rape children in their little communities that are very similar to the stone age civilizations they had beforehand.
Whites don't really want anything to do with them - their population isn't really falling either.

We live in a day of age, where different races can have an opportunity to live a good life. Why should living a good life only benefit your people? You seem very self centered and inhumane. Makes me wonder if you have a heart?
Where they CAN have a good life - but they can also have a BAD one.
My race isn't having that good of a life - it's numbers are declining.

And if you think being nonwhite is easier than being white....then paint yourself black, or have an eye change to look East Asian or get a dark tan to look Mesitzo/hispanic.
I'd rather not...

I mean one in which people are not judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character.
To me, the only important thing is the character of a person. I don't mind what music they listen to or where their parents are from. I don't mind if my black friends listen to music written by a band from London, similarly I don't expect anyone to have a problem with me listening to Cuban jazz. To worry about such things to the point where you want to punish people for wearing the wrong clothes or listening to the wrong music or being of the wrong race makes you a sad, sad man who needs help.

Character and race are two different things. You imply a a conflict between race and character, as if one necessarily excluded or was inconsistent with the other, an implication reminiscent of the supposed conflict between physical reality and a 'higher' or superior spiritual reality which should be given beforehand, with race belonging to the physical realm and character to the spiritual.
But, race AND character are part of what we are - each judged and determined by its own terms and standards. To say that racial judgements shouldn't happen denies racial rights, racial values, and the love of race which promotes racial preservation.

From: Many Mansions
There is no conflict between race and character, and it is dishonest to pretend otherwise, and immoral to use character as an argument to justify the violation of the racial right to continued life, existence and preservation, as it is to use claims of a supposed (and perhaps imaginary) 'higher' spiritual reality to promote actions that are destructive of the physical and material reality in which we exist. In fact, one of the primary measures of morality and character should be respect for the rights of others, and this includes respect for the rights of other races, and particularly their right to life. Good character and morality should be consistent with the Golden Rule of live and let live, and therefore inconsistent with the denial or violation of the rights of other races to continued life, preservation and independence.

So you keep saying. Genetically speaking, if alleles or genes exist that can be called "black" genes/alleles or "white" genes/alleles etc. then you are quite incorrect to say that [white alleles/genes] cannot exist outisde a [white] person. You are wrong. But hey, what's new?
They sure can exist outside of a White! That's common sense.
But are the PEOPLE White?
Is the race still alive inside of others?
No - they aren't. Races deserve to exist how they have been - as a people not intermixed and pushed down by other people and their genetics.

What a laughable load of bullshit. Why the fuck would anyone want to suffer living in what you describe as a "white" society when there is the rest of the world out there to be explored? So many different people, places, foods, music, sights? I just can't fathom why someone would want such a shitty life, it's ironic you've been accusing me of being self-destructive! Wake up, look at your life. Look at the life you're planning. Historically without cultural shifts the UK would be nothing like it is today. Looking to the future, how can we deny our children the same beauty we've experienced from the rest of the world? Are we going to condemn them to a life of miserable monotony in a homogenous and controlled state whipped into line, everyone doign exactly the same thing and mixing with the same people for some misguided and unscientific ideology of "purity"?
Please, shoot me now.
Well - you're assuming too much.
Others would be allowed to visit the White country - and Whites would be allowed to leave that country.
Nobody would be forced to live in that country either.
And I would love to see other cultures - I have an interest in Chinese and Japanese cultures myself.
But, I would go to JAPAN or CHINA to see it.
And the rest of that is filled with off-track assumptions.
But, if Whites become extinct and their culture is changed and altered so bad it's almost nonexistent with immigrants - will our children be able to see those cultures fully?

If Whites mix out - will our children be able to see the same beautiful races WE saw?

I don't want race to be unknown. I currently attend a university that has the biggest genetics department in the country. I'm fairly sure we're one of the few most important genetics research centres in the world. Genetics (and as a part of that, race) is extremely useful and interesting. I love learning about it.
What I want, and what most reasonable people also want, is for a person's genetics not to be used as a basis for judging their character. Why? Because this is racist. Is racism bad? It is if you want to live in a free and fair society.
I don't want people to be judged by genetics - but I DO want those races to have a continued existence.

Because it will kill you, culturally and pyschologically.
Culturally - nope. I will have the same culture I do now - but I will have experienced other cultures on the way.
Psychologically? Well - I guess you came to that conclusion with all the [incorrect] assumptions you had...

Your life is not dependent on your race. Your death is not the same as the loss of your race. Me saying that I don't give a fuck about race (for example, what music someone listens to or what colour their skin is) is not the same as me saying I don't want to die. If you can't see this you're beyond help from me, this is the cultural and pyschological death that I am refering to. It's sad, I've seen it happen before, and some people do pull through. They are able to live a relatively normal life being able to mix with people different from themselves and have new experiences and generally live their life to the full. You're young, I assume, I hope you can pull through this too.
But WHY should race not exist?
WHY should people not be able to live with only their race if they want to (Yet FULLY able to leave or visit other places)?

Yes and the whites used slavery to get richer which is why the country has flourished up until now anyways....

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People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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