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"In California, groups of all ethnicities have vied to transform themselves into a Caucasian standard of beauty. Jewish women undergo rhinoplasty, or "nose jobs," and African Americans have undergone the same, along with lip reductions and skin lightening."

http://www.womensenews.org/article.cfm/dyn/aid/1950/context/archive

 
well i did a paper on asian blepharoplasty recently. that was just an interesting bit from one of my sources. are you just talking about television or the idea that white (with blonde hair/blue eyes etc.) = beautiful?

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That's a shame. I find big lips more delicious than then along with dark skin

Sorry if that sounded perverted........

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

Beauty is an OPINION.

I'm not even going to say it...

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Stop with this bullshit!

Beauty is an OPINION.

I'm not even going to say it...

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Exactly so the Media and magazines needs to stop putting Caucasian beauty in peoples heads all the time.

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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Exactly so the Media and magazines needs to stop putting Caucasian beauty in peoples heads all the time.

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It's culturally in their heads (Or they just find them more attractive).

In experiments in which Black children have been left to themselves with White and Black dolls, it has been found tha most of the them would rather play with White dolls. This is true all over the world. Even in such places as Tobago.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Exactly so the Media and magazines needs to stop putting Caucasian beauty in peoples heads all the time.

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They don't - simply put.

 
It's culturally in their heads (Or they just find them more attractive).

In experiments in which Black children have been left to themselves with White and Black dolls, it has been found tha most of the them would rather play with White dolls. This is true all over the world. Even in such places as Tobago.

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Exactly, because everyone is brainwashed into thinking white is best! What we see makes us believe these things and what people put in magazines make people think white is god/goddess like.....

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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Exactly, because everyone is brainwashed into thinking white is best! What we see makes us believe these things and what people put in magazines make people think white is god/goddess like.....

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What about historically?

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The January 1986 issue of the journal of Ethnic and Racial Studies, "Skin Color Preference, Sexual Dimorphism and Sexual Selection: a case of Gene-Culture Co-evolution?" by Peter Frost and Pierre Van der Herghe, stated that in any given race, the women tend to have lighter complexions than the men. Using standard ethnographic files from 51 societies on five continents which have recorded their preference for human skin color, the study found that 30 preferred lighter women and 14 preferred lighter women and lighter men. The cultures of India, China, Brazil and Bali, as well as the Arabs and Negroes regard the lightest women as the most beautiful. --perpetuating the aesthetic appeal of the ivory-skinned, rosy-cheeked, blue-eyed, blond "Nordic ideal" of feminine beauty- -even though they themselves do not possess the genetic capacity to reproduce such an organism. Over time, the study said, the upper classes of all races have become lighter-skinned than their fellow countrymen because they have repeatedly skimmed off fairer women from the lower classes.

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Exactly, because everyone is brainwashed into thinking white is best! What we see makes us believe these things and what people put in magazines make people think white is god/goddess like.....

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Tobago has White Supremacist magazines?

What about historically?

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The January 1986 issue of the journal of Ethnic and Racial Studies, "Skin Color Preference, Sexual Dimorphism and Sexual Selection: a case of Gene-Culture Co-evolution?" by Peter Frost and Pierre Van der Herghe, stated that in any given race, the women tend to have lighter complexions than the men. Using standard ethnographic files from 51 societies on five continents which have recorded their preference for human skin color, the study found that 30 preferred lighter women and 14 preferred lighter women and lighter men. The cultures of India, China, Brazil and Bali, as well as the Arabs and Negroes regard the lightest women as the most beautiful. --perpetuating the aesthetic appeal of the ivory-skinned, rosy-cheeked, blue-eyed, blond "Nordic ideal" of feminine beauty- -even though they themselves do not possess the genetic capacity to reproduce such an organism. Over time, the study said, the upper classes of all races have become lighter-skinned than their fellow countrymen because they have repeatedly skimmed off fairer women from the lower classes.

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Wow, well that's not how it is unfortunately. There are a lo of people who wouldn't dare have those features because they are happy with their own. Though the movies still feed us with that look and it's annoying.

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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Wow, well that's not how it is unfortunately. There are a lo of people who wouldn't dare have those features because they are happy with their own. Though the movies still feed us with that look and it's annoying.

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Historically - before the media - this held true,

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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Wow, well that's not how it is unfortunately. There are a lo of people who wouldn't dare have those features because they are happy with their own. Though the movies still feed us with that look and it's annoying.

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I'm not saying all is like that - but give credit where it's due.

Historically - before the media - this held true,

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Give credit to what exactly?

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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Give credit to what exactly?

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Give credit to what exactly?

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Credit to Whites for tending to be found more attractive.
I'm not saying they are (Though I can say I find Whites more attractive) but it's not JUST from the media.

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I'm not gonna give credit to something that I find too common. though your little story is interesting. Where's your proof?

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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I'm not gonna give credit to something that I find too common. though your little story is interesting. Where's your proof?

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You said that they are found more attractive yourself.

Our reasons may differ but the fact remains.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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I'm not gonna give credit to something that I find too common. though your little story is interesting. Where's your proof?

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What little story?

You said that they are found more attractive yourself.

Our reasons may differ but the fact remains.

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The little story that races view it as the most beautiful without the media's help =/

I would like some proof.........

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud

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The little story that races view it as the most beautiful without the media's help =/

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The January 1986 issue of the journal of Ethnic and Racial Studies, "Skin Color Preference, Sexual Dimorphism and Sexual Selection: a case of Gene-Culture Co-evolution?" by Peter Frost and Pierre Van der Herghe

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That's the media or what?

Here's another source:

Scientific research on what constitutes human beauty, in which 300 judges of various backgrounds were shown portrait photographs and asked to rate the beauty of the individual's face, has revealed that nordic Whites are universally recognized as the most attractive humans, even by Blacks. The judges were instructed to evaluate the faces solely on his or her "personal standards of beauty and not to consider popular norms." The results of the study "Age, Sex, Race, and the Perception of Facial Beauty." Developmental Psychology, 5, Nov., 1971, pp 433-439, are reprinted below.

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JUDGES'                   GROUP GIVEN CHARACTERISTICS          HIGHEST RATING ---------------          -------------- Age 7 white males         white adolescent males Age 7 black males         white adolescent males Age 7 white females       white adolescent females Age 12 white males        white adolescent females Age 12 black males        white adolescent females Age 12 white females      white adolescent females Age 12 black females      white adolescent females Age 17 white males        white adolescent females Age 17 black males        white adolescent females Age 17 white females      white adolescent females Age 17 black females      white adolescent females Adult white males         white adolescent females Adult black males         white adolescent females Adult white females       white adolescent males Adult black females       white adolescent females

Surely this is a pointless debate though - opinion vs opinion.

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"One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the
woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents...
occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik,
Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"

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The little story that races view it as the most beautiful without the media's help =/

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Remember I put:

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The January 1986 issue of the journal of Ethnic and Racial Studies, "Skin Color Preference, Sexual Dimorphism and Sexual Selection: a case of Gene-Culture Co-evolution?" by Peter Frost and Pierre Van der Herghe

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That's the media or what?

Here's another source:

Scientific research on what constitutes human beauty, in which 300 judges of various backgrounds were shown portrait photographs and asked to rate the beauty of the individual's face, has revealed that nordic Whites are universally recognized as the most attractive humans, even by Blacks. The judges were instructed to evaluate the faces solely on his or her "personal standards of beauty and not to consider popular norms." The results of the study "Age, Sex, Race, and the Perception of Facial Beauty." Developmental Psychology, 5, Nov., 1971, pp 433-439, are reprinted below.

Code:

JUDGES' GROUP GIVEN CHARACTERISTICS HIGHEST RATING --------------- -------------- Age 7 white males white adolescent males   Age 7 black males white adolescent males   Age 7 white females white adolescent females   Age 12 white males white adolescent females Age 12 black males white adolescent females   Age 12 white females white adolescent females   Age 12 black females white adolescent females   Age 17 white males white adolescent females   Age 17 black males white adolescent females   Age 17 white females white adolescent females   Age 17 black females white adolescent females   Adult white males white adolescent females   Adult black males white adolescent females   Adult white females white adolescent males   Adult black females white adolescent females

 
Surely this is a pointless debate though - opinion vs opinion.

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Exactly. What good is arguing with people who have always though superior?

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"When you do things right.
People won't be sure you've done anything at all" ~ God like space cloud