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Was Abraham Lincoln a Racist?
Read what he said . . .
Replies: 27 — Last Post Nov. 30, 2008 5:26pm by StopXXwatch
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oh, yah, old Abe was a fuckin racist 13 52%
nah, he was just tellin it like it should be 12 48%
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Here's what Lincoln said:  "I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races--that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people."
-Abraham Lincoln, Oct. 13, 1858

so is Lincoln a racist?

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Hm...considering he freed the slaves...

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Try this:

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery I would resign my commission and offer my sword to the other side."-General Grant

Post edited at 5:35 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 by bassguitarplayer2010

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NO

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He was a politician. He said what his voters wanted to hear.

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Quote: from airemaye at 5:36 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
He was a politician. He said what his voters wanted to hear.
Bingo

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Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 8:37 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
Quote: from airemaye at 5:36 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
He was a politician. He said what his voters wanted to hear.
Bingo

so he pandered for racist votes

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Quote: from airemaye at 12:36 pm on Nov. 30, 2008
He was a politician. He said what his voters wanted to hear.

Yup.

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Quote: from JasonHot at 5:38 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 8:37 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
Quote: from airemaye at 5:36 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
He was a politician. He said what his voters wanted to hear.
Bingo

so he pandered for racist votes

Maybe, but I dont think it went over well with them when he freed the slaves

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He freed the slaves, for Gods sake!

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Quote: from bassguitarplayer2010 at 5:35 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
Try this:

"If I thought this war was to abolish slavery I would resign my commission and offer my sword to the other side."-General Grant


Very good quote.

Lincoln in this quote seems very racist though.

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Quote: from crimeinstereo at 5:41 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
He freed the slaves, for Gods sake!

But it had never gone far enough to stop the ideals of inequality.
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Quote: from crimeinstereo at 8:41 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
He freed the slaves, for Gods sake!

i think that was a tactical military thing -- he was hoping the negro slaves would rise up and kill the massas all over the south, saving the Union troops time and lives.  course it never happened.

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Quote: from JasonHot at 5:43 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
Quote: from crimeinstereo at 8:41 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
He freed the slaves, for Gods sake!

i think that was a tactical military thing -- he was hoping the negro slaves would rise up and kill the massas all over the south, saving the Union troops time and lives. course it never happened.


Jason,

Just if the Slaves revolted.

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Quote: from PeaceLoveAndCandy at 8:44 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
Quote: from JasonHot at 5:43 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
Quote: from crimeinstereo at 8:41 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
He freed the slaves, for Gods sake!
 

 i think that was a tactical military thing -- he was hoping the negro slaves would rise up and kill the massas all over the south, saving the Union troops time and lives.  course it never happened.


Jason,

Just if the Slaves revolted.

But the slaves in the confedercy never revolted even after Lincoln made em free, so it didnt work as a military tactic.

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