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LOL. Thanks for making my night with your ridiculous question.
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Quote: from Malignant Melanoma at 5:48 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
 LOL. Thanks for making my night with your ridiculous question.
I dont see how this question is at all ridiculous.
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I don't think it's morally acceptable for black people to be slaves, but at the same time, I think black people are inferior, naturally stupid, lazy, and genetically prone to committing crimes, and therefore should be barred from holding any office in the United States, kept separate from the white population, and ought to be sent back to Africa. Am I not racist? Post edited at 9:30 pm on Nov. 29, 2008 by Bud2400
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Quote: from Bud2400 at 9:28 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
I don't think it's morally acceptable for black people to be slaves, but at the same time, I think black people are inferior, naturally stupid, lazy, and genetically prone to committing crimes, and therefore should be barred from holding any office in the United States, kept separate from the white population, and ought to be sent back to Africa. Am I not racist?
Are you serious or are you trying to make a point?
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Quote: from Moonscar at 9:55 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
Quote: from Bud2400 at 9:28 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
I don't think it's morally acceptable for black people to be slaves, but at the same time, I think black people are inferior, naturally stupid, lazy, and genetically prone to committing crimes, and therefore should be barred from holding any office in the United States, kept separate from the white population, and ought to be sent back to Africa. Am I not racist?
Are you serious or are you trying to make a point?
poor inept racist is at it again it seems
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kidd rune
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Of course he was! Racism was quite common in those days. You know he wanted to send Blacks back to Africa. The quote also continues:
and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the White and black races which will ever FORBID the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the White race.
Check:
4th Lincoln-Douglas debate, 18 ix. Collected Works Vol. 3, pp. 145-146
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indeed, he was and though he did free the slaves, it was, as previous posters have guessed, done on the basis of military necessity and war powers. Slave labor was helping the South. Emancipation would encourage the slaves to rebel. It would give the North the moral high ground. It would close the door on France and England coming in on the side of the Confederacy; both thought slavery was evil, and if they came in under these circumstances, they would be supporting slavery. and it's important to note that the Emancipation Proclamation only applied to certain of the states in rebellion - no slaves within Union lines were freed or, as Secretary of State William Seward said, "We show our sympathy with slavery by emancipating slaves where we cannot reach them and holding them in bondage where we can set them free." Christ, I love 1st block Edit: and Lies My Teacher Told Me Post edited at 2:59 pm on Nov. 30, 2008 by Sudo XE
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He was probably, in modern terms, a racist. So was the vast, vast majority of Europeans at the time, even the most left leaning. Racism doesn't always mean upmost contempt. It can be ignorance as much or more than hatred. Perhaps Lincoln saw slaves as a wounded animal or something, and was filed by compassion from its plight.
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Quote: from MushroomSatsujin at 5:34 pm on Nov. 29, 2008
Hm...considering he freed the slaves...
He freed them only to send them to Africa, but he got assassinated and that part of the plan never took place.
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Just because he freed the slaves does NOT mean he wasnt a racist he probably just wanted African Americans to AT LEAST be treated humanely.
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