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kidd rune
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Quote: from biflexible at 6:20 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
!!!CAUTION!!! The following link contains links and extracts of the most harrowing actions imaginable. http://www.shamash.org/holocaust/photos/#PHoH I do not understand how you can deny that. I have nothing further to say. 
What do you think I'm denying? Also - if you have a picture of someone being gassed tell me which it is - I can't find it. EDIT: Funny, I guess this site is outdated. It still has the shrunken head claims! Even holocaust historians don't consider that true! EDIT2: Seriously, go to http://forum.codoh.com/viewforum.php?f=2 It's all about Holocaust debate and it's better than what you'll get in this forum. Make an account - it usually gets verified in an hour or two. Then post what you must and see how it goes. Post edited at 3:30 pm on Dec. 4, 2008 by kidd rune
------- "One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents... occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik, Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"
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Vintorez
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i love how you need a picture of every dead body to prove that it happened. show me a picture of every dead soldier and civilian's body during any war. i love how you make a ignorant fool out of yourself in this thread KR
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Bud2400
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Quote: from Vintorez at 5:17 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
they've found cyanic residue at concentration camps
So? You do realize that cyanide has applications beyond just killing people, do you not? It has a few medical uses (mainly in rapidly decreasing blood pressure) and is an especially popular ingredient in rat poison and for killing ants (which would be necessary for Germany to conserve its food supply, would it not? These camps were used as a factory of all kinds of goods useful to the war effort). Remember, just because somebody was shot and I happen to have a gun does not necessarily mean I shot that person. You're grasping at straws if you're using this argument. Really, I don't see why we can't just let scientists take samples of these soils and test it for evidence, which if there were evidence in the soil, would be foolproof evidence. Isn't it slightly alarming to you that they prohibit this?
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Vintorez
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Quote: from Bud2400 at 8:45 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
Quote: from Vintorez at 5:17 pm on Dec. 4, 2008
they've found cyanic residue at concentration camps
So? You do realize that cyanide has applications beyond just killing people, do you not? It has a few medical uses (mainly in rapidly decreasing blood pressure) and is an especially popular ingredient in rat poison and for killing ants (which would be necessary for Germany to conserve its food supply, would it not? These camps were used as a factory of all kinds of goods useful to the war effort). Remember, just because somebody was shot and I happen to have a gun does not necessarily mean I shot that person. You're grasping at straws if you're using this argument. Really, I don't see why we can't just let scientists take samples of these soils and test it for evidence, which if there were evidence in the soil, would be foolproof evidence. Isn't it slightly alarming to you that they prohibit this? 
why would a poisonous substance be spread on every surface of the gas chamber but nowhere else? if it was being used as insect or pest repellent OR as medicine, ,don't you think it would have been found elsewhere, most especially in the medical areas and living quarters of the prisionerss...and considering they still found large amounts of the cyanic substances after the former gas chambers have been exposed to rain, snow, and the elements for over 60 years shows that it must have been used constantly and has extremely high concentrations of the gas immediately after the war. we're not talking about the gun. if you had gunshot residue on your hands, that means YOU fired the gun. which is the case here.
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kidd rune
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why would a poisonous substance be spread on every surface of the gas chamber but nowhere else?
Ummm, it wasn't! It was quite prevalent in the delousing chambers and their walls were stained blue with the residue - something the gas chambers lacked.
if it was being used as insect or pest repellent OR as medicine, ,don't you think it would have been found elsewhere, most especially in the medical areas and living quarters of the prisionerss...and considering they still found large amounts of the cyanic substances after the former gas chambers have been exposed to rain, snow, and the elements for over 60 years shows that it must have been used constantly and has extremely high concentrations of the gas immediately after the war. 
Holocaust historians actually say that only 5% of the Zyclon-B was actually used in the gassing process. And it was kind of trapped in - due to it being a gas chamber and all - why let the gas out? Cyanide residue is entirely visible in the delousing chambers - but not the actual gas chambers - and it took a few tries to actually find the residue - and by a person sent by the government at that!
we're not talking about the gun. if you had gunshot residue on your hands, that means YOU fired the gun. which is the case here. 
Actually, it would be less than that. Even if the residue was there and 100% proven - that still doesn't account for the number of deaths - or if it happened one, two, three, ten, hundreds, or thousands of times.
------- "One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents... occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik, Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"
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The Samsoniteman
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Quote: from kidd rune at 12:51 am on Dec. 5, 2008
Where's the rest of the proof? Some people say millions died from it - I just want some real proof! Eyewitness counts aren't really proof of that either. 
You mean evidence. And yes, there's plenty of evidence, all the usual historiographic shit: documents, people, photos, diaries, politics. It seems as if you often switch between arguing that the holocaust didn't happen and that it did happen but not to the accepted scale. Which is it?
I don't need a picture of everybody - but I'm awaiting a picture of ONE PERSON with proof of being gassed to death. One out of 6 million isn't hard to find, is it? 
Here we go again. Firstly, no where near 6 million people were gassed. It's quite amusing this goes to show how little you actually know about a topic you often talk about. Secondly, it isn't reasonable to believe that (a) someone took a photo of someone being gassed, (b) the photo still exists today and (c) the photo is available to us.
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