|
Until you sign up you can't do much. Yes, it's free.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
 | / / / Viewing Topic
|  |
|
|
Laurence
Dairy Product Addict
 Patron
|
    
Apparently no one reads my posts even in the intellectual forum...I specifically geared my post to adress both the issue of roles of women and men in society, as well as the stereotyping and unreasonable expectations prevalent in both. I really must be too boring if no one pays attention to what I say even here... 
-------
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. - Martin Luther King, Jr.
Support your peers!
|
|
|
|
|
Laurence
Dairy Product Addict
Patron
|
"Separate but equal". Yes indeed I do. I hate to make empty all-emcompassing generalities. However, from a purely physical and physiological point of view, women are indeed very different from men in general in how their body react, in how they withstand illnesses and pain (women tend to be much more resilient in this area), in their abilities to perform certain physical tasks. This is not an indication of superiority or inferiority but simply of body differences and repartition of body mass. Of course, there are many exceptions. However, the physical differences are notable enough that they do impact in many cases what men can and cannot do and what women can and cannot do. Psychologically women can also be very different from men, but the boundaries do tend to get much more blurred. Women can sometimes have much more common sense than men when it comes to know what is best for children for example. Men can sometimes be very emotional when it comes to taking care of a car.  But again these are generalities bordering on the stereotypical. I have known women who were more adept at fixing cars than at human interactions, and men who were more skilled in taking care of children than in using a computer. I am not a great believer in all the left-brain=guy / right brain=women categorizations. Finally when it comes to intellectual capacity there are of course absolutely no distinctions. In my opinon, the fact that women tend to be more into literature than in mathematics and science is perhaps more a consequence of personal choice or taste than raw abilities. Many women who actually excel at Mathematics and Science do not choose it as their major because they find that writing and expressing oneself verbally is more enjoyable than writing pages and pages of proofs. BTW I am a Math major. I do tend to write here a lot because it balances out all the pages and pages of prrofs and calculations. But I HATE writing term papers... 
-------
Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. - Martin Luther King, Jr.
Support your peers!
|
|
|
( barnabas )
"Arabian Woman"
Patron
Support Leader
|
 
with every possibly difference you listed, your end conclusion was, there may be some differences, but not really. so in the end there is no seperate but equal, but only equal?
-------
Your beauty should not come from outward adornment, such as braided hair,
gold jewelry and fine clothes. Instead, it should be that of your
inner self, the unfading beauty of a gentle and quiet
spirit which is of great worth in God's sight
|
1:05 pm on Oct. 15, 2005 | Joined Nov. 2004 | 845 Days Active
Join to learn more about barnabas Minnesota, United States | Straight Female | 21682 Posts | 31763 Points
|
|
| |
|
|
tama chan myuh
Dairy Product Addict
|
I'm not sure if the "separate but equal" tag can really be applied to gender differences. Speaking in evolutionary terms, a man will produce billions of sperm cells in his lifetime and can therefore reproduce many times. Sperm cells are continually created. A woman, on the other hand, is born with all of her eggs she will need in her lifetime. After puberty, she loses them month by month until menopause some thirty to forty years later. Men can impregnate as many women as they want with no physical repercussions (excluding sexually transmitted diseases, but that's another topic for another day). An impregnated woman, however, has a fetus to keep close to her - in her uterus - for nine months, not to mention the nursing period that will ensure an infant's survival. What I'm getting to is that women are evolutionarily more inclined to care for their offspring because women can pass on their genetic material fewer times in a lifespan than men can. In the course of human history, then, females have been assigned the roles of caring for the children. Whilst they are doing that, the men hunt water buffalo or sit in a cubicle earning cash.
-------
"The most important thing is to be whatever you are without shame." - Rod Steiger
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Musuko42
Dairy Product Addict
|
"I hate to make empty all-emcompassing generalities." And then you immediately make an empty all-emcompassing generality. Women may, on average, be physically weaker then men, and this should, of course, be recognised, but it should not be the basis of an idea that ALL women should be automatically treated as weaker because most are, and should CERTAINLY not be the basis of forming some structure of how men and women "should" be, based on the qualities of the majority, and treating any that differ from that as abnormal, or denying them the right to differ (such as denying women the right to apply to the armed forces because most won't/don't/can't). Some women do take "women's rights" too far and turn it into, essentially, a reflection of male bigotry. This is to be expected; bigots are in EVERY group. What is WRONG is to compare an extremist bigoted man-hating woman with a moderate man; you're not comparing like with like. The man-hating woman is the mirror of the "woman should be in the kitchen" men, and the women calling for equal rights are the mirror of the men who believe men and women should be treated equally. This is exactly what I'm talking about: "Women are the best mothers; Men are the best fathers, for example." The majority of women may be better mothers (better term: mother figures), maybe, and the majority of men may be better fathers (father figures), but that should NOT mean that we should expect ALL of them to be. Let people do what they're good at, not what YOU think they SHOULD be good at. THAT is all equal rights asks of you. Benja. PS: Sidelined, because it's not as important to the main argument...but gender roles? Men make better fathers? I'm a fucking homosexual for Christ's sake! I am one of "the best fathers" am I?! I can tell you one thing for sure, the presence of a penis on my body does not magically make be good at raising children in a good manly fatherly way, because whatever my penis does, it is NOT going to include making babies! (Edited by Musuko42 at 1:44 am on Oct. 23, 2005)
-------
My moblog.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Looking for something else?
|
|
|
|
|
|
| / / / Viewing Topic | |
|
610 users online 
174577 members 
You have 1 new message.
This is an excellent question. The question is of course what makes a woman unique and distinctive in comparison to a man. In their quest for equality, have women been pressured to abandon or shun their feminity and their special characteristics? 
Ad Free
