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Forever Angel
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Quote: from Moridin at 2:58 pm on July 1, 2009
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The earth was not created, it was formed. Quote: from Forever Angel at 9:48 am on July 1, 2009
Science for the details. Religion for the reasons. 
But science can account for the reasons ("preexisting conditions") as well.
Tell me the "why" of the universe. What would be the reason for its existence? What was there before the universe that determined it would come in to existence?
All "why" questions can be reformulated to "how is it that" questions. Furthermore, as I have explained countless times, the question of "how is it that" for the universe is self-contradictory. Kind of how you view the situation if I where to ask for the "why" of god.
You just verified what I said in my post and nullified your own response.
No, because it was regarding the formation of the earth, not the universe. Way to derail a thread.
Nice dodge. Your response said nothing about the earth either. But the principle is the same. Why did the earth come to be? Not how, but why.. Post edited at 1:52 pm on July 1, 2009 by Forever Angel
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Science can easily answer those questions. When it comes to the formation of the universe, both are absurd.
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Planetary formation tells me how it happened. And no, "why" and "how is it that..." are not equivalent.
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Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:38 pm on July 1, 2009
Planetary formation tells me how it happened. And no, "why" and "how is it that..." are not equivalent.
To be clear what would you consider a 'why' question? If you're talking about some sort of grand meaning on a cosmic scale then science obviously can't give you that, but what makes anyone think that religion can? Even if science can't offer us anything more in this regard, that doesn't automatically give religion a free pass to tell us what's what.
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Quote: from Effigy at 7:54 am on July 2, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:38 pm on July 1, 2009
Planetary formation tells me how it happened. And no, "why" and "how is it that..." are not equivalent.
To be clear what would you consider a 'why' question? If you're talking about some sort of grand meaning on a cosmic scale then science obviously can't give you that, but what makes anyone think that religion can? Even if science can't offer us anything more in this regard, that doesn't automatically give religion a free pass to tell us what's what.
Are you telling me I can't or shouldn't believe in my God?
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Quote: from Forever Angel at 7:27 am on July 2, 2009
Quote: from Effigy at 7:54 am on July 2, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 10:38 pm on July 1, 2009
Planetary formation tells me how it happened. And no, "why" and "how is it that..." are not equivalent.
To be clear what would you consider a 'why' question? If you're talking about some sort of grand meaning on a cosmic scale then science obviously can't give you that, but what makes anyone think that religion can? Even if science can't offer us anything more in this regard, that doesn't automatically give religion a free pass to tell us what's what.
Are you telling me I can't or shouldn't believe in my God?
It was pretty obviously not meant to be personal, so don't bother playing it up for theatrics.
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Science all the way. I wouldn't dream of saying that religion has no place in society; we have the power of imagination and faith, and the right to believe what we choose. But those powers evolved over millions of years. The certainty that religion brings is poor defence against the accountability required of science, and moreover, the discoveries made by scientists are far more credible, fascinating, and therefore beautiful than the myths and legends propped up by belief and wishful thinking. Besides, science is wonderful. Isn't it more fun to know how little you know, but that what you do know is certain to be true?
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