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Quote: from kidd rune at 11:52 pm on June 30, 2009

Quote: from Moonscar at 2:44 am on July 1, 2009

Quote: from kidd rune at 11:38 pm on June 30, 2009


That's funny. There's lots of white kids around here as well as blacks and Hispanics. I wonder why we don't get any of what you're saying at my school.
Lots?
  What are the stats?

What do you mean stats? I don't have a statistics chart  

 But I do see more than enough white people with all my years being here. I see more white people than I do black people. But it depends on what area you're in really.


Do you not know the racial demographics of your area?

I haven't looked at a chart. So what? Anyone I look up is outdated.



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Quote: from kidd rune at 11:51 pm on June 30, 2009

I didn't say that,
yeah you implied as much


Racial tension does not come about when you're the sole or one of the very few people of a different race.
That's of course a given.
But when a minority group starts to gain in numbers, such happens.

Why would tension happen when a minority group start to gain numbers? Why is that necessary to happen?


Because there weren't enough Whites among TOH's Negroes for them to say "Hey, we're Black. They're not. We're quite different."
HOW do you know? Do YOU have the stats to tell the differnce between TOH experience vs abs?

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yeah you implied as much
Me implying is not the same as you assuming.


Why would tension happen when a minority group start to gain numbers? Why is that necessary to happen?
Because very few numbers of people isn't enough to create any sort of tension.
One person will go with the flow since it's either act like Negroes, or be an outcast.
When numbers gain, time and time again we see the same thing happen where people of the same race often group together more than with other races.


HOW do you know? Do YOU have the stats to tell the differnce between TOH experience vs abs?
No statistics exist to suggest any sort of explanation for this, and it's absurd to believe they could.

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http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3626/is_200710/ai_n25139928/

Post edited at 12:04 pm on July 1, 2009 by whoisabs

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Quote: from whoisabs at 12:03 pm on July 1, 2009


http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3626/is_200710/ai_n25139928/

I find that ridiculous. Not all blacks sit together and there are a level of whites that are in groups with other whites. How come they aren't questioned?

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Quote: from kidd rune at 11:28 pm on June 30, 2009

Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 12:41 am on July 1, 2009

I lived in a not only predominately but solely black area for a year and didn't have a single issue at all, so from personal experience alone I'm more with Aimforthehead on this.
This is where your problem is.
Racial tension does not come about when you're the sole or one of the very few people of a different race.
That's of course a given.

But when a minority group starts to gain in numbers, such happens.
They begin to have an effect on the community.

Apparently, you're the White kid.

They have no problems with Whites because you're the only one.


Mmm, I don't think so.
Where I live, for a very long time, the city (Baltimore) was predominately black (predominately to say the least).
Now, when I go into the city i've noticed that it's getting a lot more diverse. Like, its not uncommon for me to see white families just sitting outside their houses or going for a walk in neighborhoods that used to be all black. Or on the west side, my Aunt lives again in what used to be a predominately, if not entirely black neighborhood, a lot of hispanic, white, and middle eastern families are moving in.

But I get where you're coming from. Even I was curious to see what would happen with this change. Yeah, it's kinda strange for us (i'm black) to see one thing when we're accustomed to another, but in truth, that's as far as it goes. We don't care...

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Quote: from kidd rune at 9:35 am on July 1, 2009

Me implying is not the same as you assuming.
assuming =/= infering.

If you imply I can infer


Because very few numbers of people isn't enough to create any sort of tension.
One person will go with the flow since it's either act like Negroes, or be an outcast.

So you are ASSUMING that TOH had to act "like a negro" to fit in where he lived?

lol


When numbers gain, time and time again we see the same thing happen where people of the same race often group together more than with other races.
In my city there are 30% asian 40% whites 25% latinos and the rest others. No we don't have the tensions and hate and strife you mention . sorry and yes the whole city was pretty prosperous until the economic meltdonw.

my area which is 70% latinos has more conflict not because of the ethnic problem (or the "rise" of this or that)  but because of gangs poverty stupidity and general other problems. And it has always been that way even before latinos bame 70%. Its the east side of town and its n been posh ever in its history.


No statistics exist to suggest any sort of explanation for this, and it's absurd to believe they could.
So why do you ask for stats all the time?

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assuming =/= infering.
If you imply I can infer

I did not imply, and you assumed.

There's nothing in my post to imply that I believed that it would be negative. For the love of god, find a sentence in it that does.


So you are ASSUMING that TOH had to act "like a negro" to fit in where he lived?
lol

Maybe I should say "Act in accordance with the Negroes" instead.


In my city there are 30% asian 40% whites 25% latinos and the rest others. No we don't have the tensions and hate and strife you mention . sorry and yes the whole city was pretty prosperous until the economic meltdonw.
my area which is 70% latinos has more conflict not because of the ethnic problem (or the "rise" of this or that)  but because of gangs poverty stupidity and general other problems. And it has always been that way even before latinos bame 70%. Its the east side of town and its n been posh ever in its history.

There's really no way for me to know if you're lying, and even if you weren't, what makes you think the 30% "Asian" and 40% White and 25% Latin American people aren't separated by themselves? You area, you admit, has more Latin American people than the average.


So why do you ask for stats all the time?
For some things statistics do exist.

There's no recent statistics on how Negroes act around Abs and TOH.
Unless you've seen some study on them specifically.
Have you?

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Quote: from chrs9310 at 4:20 pm on July 1, 2009

Quote: from kidd rune at 11:28 pm on June 30, 2009

Quote: from TheOtherHorseman at 12:41 am on July 1, 2009

I lived in a not only predominately but solely black area for a year and didn't have a single issue at all, so from personal experience alone I'm more with Aimforthehead on this.
This is where your problem is.  
 Racial tension does not come about when you're the sole or one of the very few people of a different race.  
 That's of course a given.  

 But when a minority group starts to gain in numbers, such happens.  
 They begin to have an effect on the community.  

 Apparently, you're the White kid.  

 They have no problems with Whites because you're the only one.


Mmm, I don't think so.
Where I live, for a very long time, the city (Baltimore) was predominately black (predominately to say the least).
Now, when I go into the city i've noticed that it's getting a lot more diverse. Like, its not uncommon for me to see white families just sitting outside their houses or going for a walk in neighborhoods that used to be all black. Or on the west side, my Aunt lives again in what used to be a predominately, if not entirely black neighborhood, a lot of hispanic, white, and middle eastern families are moving in.

But I get where you're coming from. Even I was curious to see what would happen with this change. Yeah, it's kinda strange for us (i'm black) to see one thing when we're accustomed to another, but in truth, that's as far as it goes. We don't care...


Obama claimed he was going to bulldoze the abandoned once Negro-filled neighborhoods in Baltimore which the inhabitants left because of crime.

He called for 50 US cities to bulldoze up to 40% of their neighborhoods, Baltimore at the top of the list.


Is there racial tension in Baltimore?
Hell yes!

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/baltimore-city/bal-md.ci.attacks31may31,0,2302146.story


"They were using my head for a soccer ball - back and forth, back and forth," Williams said in an interview.

Williams, who is white, said he believes race played a factor, with one of the attacking teens, who were black, accusing him of shouting a racial epithet, which he denies.


Like the rest of the media, they won't admit that there is much Black-on-White crime, but it's quite obvious.

They claim an alarming number of people assaulted by "juveniles." Besides the double stabbing they spoke of, all of the assaults were Black-on-White.

We'll never hear from the mainstream media that they were Black-on-White crimes.
Blacks can't commit hate crime. They're Black.
Maybe your family just lives in the better parts of town, it's quite large.

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try reading the article i linked to, it should explain some of the differences

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I agree with OP.

The reason why racism still a problem is because of ignorant tards like abs and rune.


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Quote: from kidd rune at 3:38 pm on July 1, 2009

There's really no way for me to know if you're lying, and even if you weren't, what makes you think the 30% "Asian" and 40% White and 25% Latin American people aren't separated by themselves?
Funny you'd think Im lying when you are the master liar.

Here is the data


Races in San Jose:

White Non-Hispanic (36.0%)
Hispanic (30.2%)
Other race (15.9%)
Vietnamese (8.8%)
Chinese (5.7%)
Filipino (5.4%)
Two or more races (5.0%)
Black (3.5%)
Asian Indian (3.0%)
Other Asian (1.6%)
American Indian (1.5%)
Japanese (1.3%)
Korean (1.1%)


http://www.city-data.com/city/San-Jose-California.html

Check out the crime rates, the income, the poverty level, the education level.


Estimated median household income in 2007: $76,963 (it was $70,243 in 2000)

San Jose:   $76,963
California:   $59,948


Estimated median house or condo value in 2007: $687,600 (it was $375,500 in 2000)
San Jose:   $687,600
California:   $532,300


Mean prices in 2007: All housing units: $701,881; Detached houses: $776,227; Townhouses or other attached units: $566,906; In 2-unit structures: $729,950; In 3-to-4-unit structures: $497,193; In 5-or-more-unit structures: $456,614; Mobile homes: $75,806; Occupied boats, RVs, vans, etc.: $38,228

Median gross rent in 2007: $1,249.
Percentage of residents living in poverty in 2007: 9.9%
(6.2% for White Non-Hispanic residents, 15.0% for Hispanic or Latino residents, 14.7% for other race residents, 12.0% for two or more races residents



You area, you admit, has more Latin American people than the average.
yeah which basically shows that LESS diversity is not a good thing. The west and south side of town is typical of the city average in race diversity and is pretty much affluent.

This is a good example

http://www.city-data.com/neighborhood/Silver-Creek-San-Jose-CA.html

Its the POSHEST area of the city. Houses there are for the richest in town. Look at the race diversity.

Check out this one too.

http://www.city-data.com/neighborhood/Loma-Linda-San-Jose-CA.html

Very diverse too and many multiracial households.

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You could easily explain this difference between the two with the income differences, couldn't you Jake?

If race is meaningless, that would be the reason, correct?

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once a black president was elected into office, racism was erased

Not.

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Also, San Jose did not grow in per capita income like the rest of the USA did.

http://www.sanjoseca.gov/planning/Census/briefs/Income_Poverty.asp


while per capita income rose by 14%, from $23,071 in 1990 to $26,697 in 2000.

Actually, it rose 13.58% if you do the math.

While the USA rose 18.93%
According to the stats on the left chart of the page:
http://www.ofm.wa.gov/trends/tables/fig101.asp

The US, though not gaining as much diversity as a whole as did San Jose, grew in per capita-income more rapidly.

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