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You put words into my mouth and still have not demonstrated how any of the suggestions you made about these people were evidenced in this article. Way to go.

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So you think that the cure for ignorance is more ignorance, not education? Way to go.

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Again, putting words into my mouth. Where does anything that I have said even suggest that point of view? (hint: it doesn't)

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You have explicitly stated that you don't think that proper sex education could prevent these sorts of mishaps when it clearly can. My sex education class did contain discussions on various sounds that you can make during sex and I would hardly confuse the average sex noises with noises of someone being violently assaulted.

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Your sex education class must've been hilarious; also, I don't believe you.

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I never said that; I said that I think current trends of teen pregnancy and STDs in the US have more to do with the fact that American parents have grown increasingly retarded lately than with the quality of sex education, something which none of your studies took into account.  

Your sex education class must've been hilarious; also, I don't believe you.

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But I have conclusively proven that the problem is sex education. In areas where there is a lot of ignorance about sex, high teen pregnancy, a lot of high-risk sex going on, high frequency of STDs and so on, you will find poor, abstinence only sex education. In areas with proper sex education, you have low ignorance about sex, low teen pregnancy rates, low rates of high-risk sex, low frequency of STDs and so on. Why are you denying this? Is it because you are afraid that it shows that abstinence only sex education is a bad idea if you are interested in reducing teen pregnancies and STD rates (it is)?

I also reject the notion that parents have grown increasingly retarded concerning this.

http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_sexEd2006.html
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Evidence shows that comprehensive sex education programs that provide information about both abstinence and contraception can help delay the onset of sexual activity among teens, reduce their number of sexual partners and increase contraceptive use when they become sexually active. These findings were underscored in "Call to Action to Promote Sexual Health and Responsible Sexual Behavior," issued by former Surgeon General David Satcher in June 2001

More than nine in 10 teachers believe that students should be taught about contraception but one in four are prohibited from doing so.

Eighty-two percent of adults support comprehensive sex education that teaches students about both abstinence and other methods of preventing pregnancy and STIs.
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Or maybe you think that parents wanting increased and better sex education are retarded? How have parents become increasingly retarded?

It wasn't that hilarious, we just watched a movie in biology class where they did some moaning, then went on to read about HIV.

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Massachusetts, where I live, is one of the most liberal states in the country and I know for a fact that our sex ed programs have very high standards set for them, yet there are still plenty of teens getting knocked up and enjoying the lovely blessings of STDs. Why is that? The sex ed programs are excellent, so what's the problem here?

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Or maybe you think that parents wanting increased and better sex education are retarded? How have parents become increasingly retarded?

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This is highly irrelevent to the topic, but it's been my experience (both as a teacher and as a friend to parents) that parents today are so afraid of their children discovering what it's like to suffer consequences for their actions (e.g. failing a class  because they didn't want to do their homework or learn the material, losing a competition because they didn't compete as well as someone else did, etc.) that they spend their entire time as parents trying to prevent their children from experiencing the consequences of their actions. This creates teenagers and adults who expect to be able to get away with murder, practically, and not have to deal with the consequences of those actions. It's not surprising that such an environment would produce teenagers who think that "it won't happen to me."

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It wasn't that hilarious, we just watched a movie in biology class where they did some moaning, then went on to read about HIV.

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"Watched a movie where they did some moaning" =/= "learned about all the sounds a person can possibly make during sex."

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Massachusetts, where I live, is one of the most liberal states in the country and I know for a fact that our sex ed programs have very high standards set for them, yet there are still plenty of teens getting knocked up and enjoying the lovely blessings of STDs. Why is that? The sex ed programs are excellent, so what's the problem here?

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Think of the following analogy. Town A has no neighborhood watch program, Town B has a proper neighborhood watch program. Is it enough to point out that Town B still has crime to argue that neighborhood watch program is less of a factor in reducing crime? No, you have to compare it to the crime rates in Town A, where you have no neighborhood watch program to accurately evaluate the results of said program.

Does this seem reasonable to you? Do you think it is fair to say that states with no or poor sex education programs is casually connected to an increase high-risk sexual behavior and teen pregnancies?

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This creates teenagers and adults who expect to be able to get away with murder, practically, and not have to deal with the consequences of those actions. It's not surprising that such an environment would produce teenagers who think that "it won't happen to me."

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This is slightly similar to the "society is falling apart because we have stopped teaching religious values". It has been used in Plato's time as well.

But doesn't proper sex education or any type of education for that matter, empower a lot of people with this knowledge so that they won't have to make those mistakes? Isn't it better to not make mistakes and know why you should not than to actually make mistakes?

Maybe I am just misunderstanding your argument here.

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I think you are, as my argument has nothing to do with religious values and everything to do with entitlement complexes.

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Could you maybe try to answer my questions?

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Schools tell kids that if they don't do homework or try to learn, they will fail tests, but their parents then undermine this by calling the school when their precious little gumdrops bring home a failing grade and demanding it be changed. This sort of behavior creates kids who think that they can do whatever they want to do without having to worry about consequences, and it's not really surprsing that this sort of atmosphere would undermine even the best sex education.

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I thought I had; I agree that a lack of sex education would increase the likeliness of unwanted pregnancies and STD transmission, but my point is that I don't think it's the only factor at work here.  

Schools tell kids that if they don't do homework or try to learn, they will fail tests, but their parents then undermine this by calling the school when their precious little gumdrops bring home a failing grade and demanding it be changed. This sort of behavior creates kids who think that they can do whatever they want to do without having to worry about consequences, and it's not really surprsing that this sort of atmosphere would undermine even the best sex education.

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So you agree that sex education is an important factor, maybe similar to a proper driving education reducing traffic deaths?

Then maybe you can cite instances of this alleged form of over protection? Or is it just anecdotal evidence compared to my statistical evidence?

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What kind of statistics do you want? Something that demonstrates that all parents call schools to get their children's grades changed? Trust me, it's everywhere, and I'd wager that the only people who don't see it are the ones who are willfully blind.

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I never said that I didn't.

What kind of statistics do you want? Something that demonstrates that all parents call schools to get their children's grades changed? Trust me, it's everywhere, and I'd wager that the only people who don't see it are the ones who are willfully blind.

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I'd settle for anything that isn't anecdotal evidence. I assume you do know the difference between anecdotal evidence and statistical/scientific evidence?

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The best I can give you is this article, as I highly doubt that there's been a study done just yet to say "statistically, modern teenagers are entitled douchebags." I highly doubt, however, that it is strictly my experience, largely because I've yet to hear someone contradict it. Shit, it's pretty much taken for granted in any article written about Milennials (or Generation Y, if you will) that's out there.

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