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Quote: from Moridin at 9:34 am on July 4, 2009

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Quote: from gief at 2:07 pm on July 4, 2009

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come on man, these punks are probably out having sex themselves, in between jerking off to internet porn. we dont need to have a fucking moaning tutorial in a 9th grade health class. lots of different people sound lots of different ways when they have sex, never mind peoples fetishes. obviously honest mistake, not due to lack of "moaning education." and as always, get over yourself.

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 How can you honestly confuse the two sounds? How is a proper sexual education class a bad thing? And what on earth does this have to do with me personally?

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screaming is screaming, some girls have different pitches in there screams so it could sound like she is hurting, and not experiencing pleasure. proper sexual education isnt a bad thing, playing sounds of women having sex for a bunch of teenage boys in class with teenage girls is. and its personal because its another pathetic attempt by you to go on a self righteous crusade with a really lame example of why we need more than what we already have.

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But the United States does not have proper sexual education. If they did, the United States would not have an epidemic of STDs or teenage pregnancies. The Netherlands for instance, is very secular and has good sexual education and they do not suffer from these things anywhere near what the United States does.

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The Netherlands for instance, is very secular and has good sexual education and they do not suffer from these things anywhere near what the United States does.

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Also point that high pregnancy rates and STD rates likely have more to do with the fact that teenagers (esp. American teenagers) are stupid and hold the belief that "it could never happen to me." This is more to do with the fact that American parents have become extremely retarded in the raising of their children than the quality of sex education.

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Just a point that hasn't been mentioned yet, but I can't imagine a sex education class that was devoted to the different noises people make when coming. Granted, such a class would be hilarious and amazing, but I can't imagine that it would exist, strictly because it would be hilarious and amazing.

Also point that high pregnancy rates and STD rates likely have more to do with the fact that teenagers (esp. American teenagers) are stupid and hold the belief that "it could never happen to me." This is more to do with the fact that American parents have become extremely retarded in the raising of their children than the quality of sex education.

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Are you suggesting that perhaps Moridin posted a story with only the barest tangential connection to the point he wished to make, in a sense gleefully engaging in intellectual dishonestly as long as it furthered his agenda, the ideological equivalent of a creationist?

How uncharacteristic.

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Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"

This guy is taking advantage of this piece of news in order to ridicule religions to promote his atheistic agenda.  Nevertheless, the article was indeed funny and thanks for sharing!

1. there is sex education in school. it involves learning about safe sex ect
2. what do you want, porn in school? I'm telling you. religion or no religion, that will not go down well.
3. ok, how do you teach the difference in screaming of pleasure or terror in school? why should they do that in the first place, as this is a unique incident.

one could say, the boys could have done a good thing, if this was domestic abuse that is. how many times has domestic abuse been ignored?

Post edited at 2:26 am on July 5, 2009 by King Kong

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 11:47 pm on July 4, 2009

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Just a point that hasn't been mentioned yet, but I can't imagine a sex education class that was devoted to the different noises people make when coming. Granted, such a class would be hilarious and amazing, but I can't imagine that it would exist, strictly because it would be hilarious and amazing.  

 Also point that high pregnancy rates and STD rates likely have more to do with the fact that teenagers (esp. American teenagers) are stupid and hold the belief that "it could never happen to me." This is more to do with the fact that American parents have become extremely retarded in the raising of their children than the quality of sex education.

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Are you suggesting that perhaps Moridin posted a story with only the barest tangential connection to the point he wished to make, in a sense gleefully engaging in intellectual dishonestly as long as it furthered his agenda, the ideological equivalent of a creationist?

How uncharacteristic.

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I know, isn't it just plain bizarre?

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give up and know when you are beat.

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The sex education I had in school did not teach me about the noises people make when having sex, and I come from a fairly secular country and the school I went to did teach about contraception.

If I heard screaming and did not know the reason for it, I might also come to the conclusion that someone was in trouble, although I would then call the police rather than take matters into my own hands.

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Just a point that hasn't been mentioned yet, but I can't imagine a sex education class that was devoted to the different noises people make when coming. Granted, such a class would be hilarious and amazing, but I can't imagine that it would exist, strictly because it would be hilarious and amazing.

Also point that high pregnancy rates and STD rates likely have more to do with the fact that teenagers (esp. American teenagers) are stupid and hold the belief that "it could never happen to me." This is more to do with the fact that American parents have become extremely retarded in the raising of their children than the quality of sex education.

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The point being is that if you had proper sex education, STD rates goes down. This is universally observed throughout Europe and even between the states that have proper sex education and those that do not. There are mountains of data supporting my position. You can try to explain it away all you want, but the facts are immune to your rationalizations.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3546007.stm

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Critics of abstinence-only education said the findings showed that adolescents benefit from sex education.

"It's a tragedy if we withhold from these kids information about how not to get STDs or not to get pregnant," Dorothy Mann, of the Family Planning Council, told the Associated Press.

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http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_sexEd2006.html

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the United States continues to have one of the highest teen pregnancy rates in the developed world—almost twice as high as those of England, Wales and Canada, and eight times as high as those of the Netherlands and Japan.

Every year, roughly nine million new sexually transmitted infections (STIs) occur among teens and young adults in the United States. Compared with rates among teens in Canada and Western Europe, rates of gonorrhea and chlamydia among U.S. teens are extremely high.

By 2002, one-third of teens had not received any formal instruction about contraception.

More than one in five adolescents (21% of females and 24% of males) received abstinence education without receiving instruction about birth control in 2002, compared with 8-9% in 1995.

Sex education teachers were more likely to focus on abstinence and less likely to provide students with information on birth control, how to obtain contraceptive services, sexual orientation and abortion in 1999 than they were in 1988.

More than nine in 10 teachers believe that students should be taught about contraception, but one in four are prohibited from doing so

Eighty-six percent of the public school districts that have a policy to teach sex education require that abstinence be promoted.

More than half of the districts in the South with a policy to teach sex education have an abstinence-only policy, compared with one in five of such districts in the Northeast.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090622/ap_on_he_me/us_med_hiv_map

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ATLANTA - A new Internet data map offers a first-of-its-kind, county-level look at HIV cases in the U.S. and finds the infection rates tend to be highest in the South.

The highest numbers of HIV cases are in population centers like New York and California. However, many of the areas with the highest rates of HIV — that is, the highest proportion of people with the AIDS-causing virus — are in the South, according to the data map, which has information for more than 90 percent of the nation's counties and Washington, D.C.

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exceedinglyrare, you believe that the treatment for ignorance is not education or information, but more ignorance. Why is there a perfect correlation between ignorance about sex with a high rate of teen pregnancy and STDs in pretty much all western countries? Has it ever occurred to you that teens stupid enough to repeatedly have unprotected, high-risk sex are stupid enough to misinterpret sounds during sex?

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I see no evidence to suggest that this had anything to do with religion.  

The sex education I had in school did not teach me about the noises people make when having sex, and I come from a fairly secular country and the school I went to did teach about contraception.  

If I heard screaming and did not know the reason for it, I might also come to the conclusion that someone was in trouble, although I would then call the police rather than take matters into my own hands.

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Religion discourages proper sex education (fact). Lack of proper sex education induces stupidity regarding sex (fact), just as engaging multiple times in unprotected, high-risk sex and misinterpreting sexual situations. The relationship is clear.

Post edited at 1:48 pm on July 6, 2009 by Moridin

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Quote: from exceedinglyrare at 11:47 pm on July 4, 2009

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Just a point that hasn't been mentioned yet, but I can't imagine a sex education class that was devoted to the different noises people make when coming. Granted, such a class would be hilarious and amazing, but I can't imagine that it would exist, strictly because it would be hilarious and amazing.  

 Also point that high pregnancy rates and STD rates likely have more to do with the fact that teenagers (esp. American teenagers) are stupid and hold the belief that "it could never happen to me." This is more to do with the fact that American parents have become extremely retarded in the raising of their children than the quality of sex education.

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Are you suggesting that perhaps Moridin posted a story with only the barest tangential connection to the point he wished to make, in a sense gleefully engaging in intellectual dishonestly as long as it furthered his agenda, the ideological equivalent of a creationist?

How uncharacteristic.

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When are you going to reply to my argument about abortion and apologize for your intentional misrepresentation? Or is this just another meaningless drive-by posting from you?

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