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Quote: from soyahyah at 12:15 am on July 19, 2009
Quote: from Moonscar at 8:55 pm on July 18, 2009
Quote: from soyahyah at 8:48 pm on July 18, 2009
most african americans are...but some are not... so no 
That itself is offensive. That's like me saying most white people like cheese. I don't know that for sure but I've seen a lot of white people who like cheese so in conclusion most like it idiot. 
most african americans do have self hate..why do you think they straighten their hair and bleach their skin, highest divorce rates, ok I take my gneralazation back, it was offensive and I apoligize but some of it is true..African americans have a lot of self hate... 
a lot of Caucasian people tan. does that mean they have self-hate?
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9:50 pm on July 18, 2009 | Joined: Nov. 2008 | Days Active: 193 Join to learn more about xgirltalk Washington, United States | Straight Female | Posts: 2,454 | Points: 4,488
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Alizay
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Quote: from jakelong at 6:02 pm on July 19, 2009
So why is it "self-hating" for blacks to change their hairstyle and not self-hating for whites to tan? 
GOOD POINT!!
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kidd rune
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Quote: from jakelong at 6:02 pm on July 19, 2009
Quote: from kidd rune at 1:28 pm on July 19, 2009
Tanning doesn't make you as dark as Negroes 
And changing your hairdo does not make you white I am sure you agree. So why is it "self-hating" for blacks to change their hairstyle and not self-hating for whites to tan?  
I never said it was self hating, nor did I claim a hairdo makes you White. Actually, the difference is tanning makes you darker, but never as dark as a Negro will be.
------- "One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents... occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik, Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"
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3:19 pm on July 19, 2009 | Joined: Nov. 2007 | Days Active: 288 Join to learn more about kidd rune Florida, United States | Straight Male | Posts: 10,722 | Points: 14,800
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This kind of topic really worries me.It invites racism by implication & I find many of the responses confusing I'm sure one can make generalizations about any group of people & they will be true to degree that one is aware of huge areas of overlap with other groups, so the statement can act only as a rough estimate. For instance I'm aware that some black Americans straighten their hair to look more like whites & do so out of self dislike even racial dislike, but I don't think one can generalise about that too much since most of us are fashion victims to some degree & all over the world men & women are seeking to alter their appearence in order to look like some idealized 'other'.Are brunettes dyeing blonde, girls wearing high heels,Japanese trying for round eyes, all signs of some racial self hatred. I don't think that is likely The girl in the picture could be mixed race,like most of us.But with pale eyes she could be Celtic,Spanish,or Greek All before & after a long holiday in the sun.But so what? Why is it important? These days 'Black' seems to mean 'non -white' without taking into account all the different shades of 'non-white'so it is a meaningless term. Similarly 'white ' is not defined, as though it is obvious when it isn't.Greeks ,Italians & Spaniards were considered non white in Aystralia for a long time as they were in England.The Nazis considered blue eyed blondes only to be real whites.I'm blue eyed & ash blonde but come from a family with many browneyed brunettes.My mother passed as South African Coloured ,a Maori in NZ,An Indian in NZ & S Africa. & a Mexican in the US.She was English Anglo-Saxon. O know I'm labouring the obvious but I'm doing so because I suspect this sort of topic.Its implications of dividing us up into some specious heirarchy in a nudge- nudge wink- wink. sort of way.Why is everybody so concerned about non -whiteness in countries like the US in ways that are not to do with poverty & its commcomitants.What is it with Americans & race?
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I disagree with you except for the illiterate part, since I'm black and I can't read.
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DeoxysDNA
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I disagree with the "Black people straighten their hair because of self hate" part. Maybe some do, but most people around here just do it because of the look.
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kidd rune
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Quote: from jakelong at 3:34 am on July 21, 2009
Quote: from kidd rune at 3:25 pm on July 19, 2009
As for the person in the pic, do you have a side shot - and how specific do you want to get?
just the 5 race classification is enough  
That's easy, she would be a Caucasoid.
------- "One of the Germans... would frequently snatch a child from the woman's arms and... tear the child in half... Such incidents... occurred all the time." - A Year in Treblinka, Yankel Wiernik, Treblinka's "most authoritative eyewitness"
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