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So Christians here a few mind boggling questions I have:

*(obvious one) Which is worse(in your moral opinion)?

* Would you allow abortion if you knew a child would turn out Gay?

* If abortion is wrong, and Gay people are wrong, then who adopts the unwanted children when the Gays are gone?

Just some few questions, honest opinions are welcome, this isn't like a 'I Hate Christian' thing, I just want to know, because I can't really put myself into your shoes, ya know?

Goes with question #2

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#1: I don't understand how you compare the existence of gay people with abortion. That some people are gay is a fact of life. Having a abortion is a choice that I disagree with for most cases.

#2: If the only reason for the abortion was the gender orientation of the child, no, I wouldn't allow it or consider it.

#3: Doesn't apply.

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So Christians here a few mind boggling questions I have:

*(obvious one) Which is worse(in your moral opinion)?

* Would you allow abortion if you knew a child would turn out Gay?

* If abortion is wrong, and Gay people are wrong, then who adopts the unwanted children when the Gays are gone?

Just some few questions, honest opinions are welcome, this isn't like a 'I Hate Christian' thing, I just want to know, because I can't really put myself into your shoes, ya know?

Goes with question #2

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Wow...what does one issue have to do with the other?  Abortion is not a choice I'm comfortable with but I can't have babies and I'm not going to legislate my opinions on others.

I'm convinced that 'Gay' is a purely biological issue and to hate 'Gays' is only bigotry, ignorance and fear.  Lumping 'Gay' people into a discussion about Abortion is just wrong!

I do like the lively discussion and invite you all to debate on our forums at www.thehereticandpreacher.com .  All are welcome, all sides represented.

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So Christians here a few mind boggling questions I have:

*(obvious one) Which is worse(in your moral opinion)?
Abortion

* Would you allow abortion if you knew a child would turn out Gay?
No

* If abortion is wrong, and Gay people are wrong, then who adopts the unwanted children when the Gays are gone?
I'm not against gay people.

Just some few questions, honest opinions are welcome, this isn't like a 'I Hate Christian' thing, I just want to know, because I can't really put myself into your shoes, ya know?

Goes with question #2

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I'm chiristian by the way.

Quite a disgusting thought but perfectly moral!!!!!

Abortion is a mortal sin. Abortion is the same as murder. This is a violation of the Ten Commandments. This is also a sin against Gods' plan and Will for the human race.

They equally separate one from God.

Your poll is not adequate as it does not leave room for this option.

Post edited at 6:54 pm on July 3, 2009 by uscmedic

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Homosexuality is a mortal sin. It is a sin against Gods' plan and Will for the human race as well as falling under the category of adultery per the Roman Catholic Church.

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Too bad God is not more concerned with behavior that affects others...like war and genocide.  he seems way to obsessed with our sex lives.

Quote: from uscmedic at 6:51 pm on July 3, 2009

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Abortion is a mortal sin. Abortion is the same as murder. This is a violation of the Ten Commandments. This is also a sin against Gods' plan and Will for the human race.

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So God has determined that the taking of a life and sexual practices are equally repellent?  

Quote: from uscmedic at 6:51 pm on July 3, 2009

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They equally separate one from God.

Your poll is not adequate as it does not leave room for this option.

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Bigots like you make me laugh.  If God had some sort of plan, why not create us so that overcrowding and resource depletion would not threaten our survival...oh wait...maybe he did....maybe he crated a gene allele that would trigger certain people to not produce more people.  Did you study any biology to become a medic?

Any God that puts sexual behavior or choices on the same level of importance with a human decision to take a life (if one philosophically or medically agrees that a blastocyst is in fact a life) is morally bankrupt...like you.  Jesus never made such an ignorant statement.  You Catholics have protected pedophile priests but counter that with your persecution of gays.  Let's list your transgressions and decide just how qualified you are to judge others.

BTW...we are having this and other discussion on www.thehereticandthepreacher.com . Christians are certainly welcome...if you dare trot out such unfounded ideas in front of some very informed opposition.

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Quote: from uscmedic at 6:51 pm on July 3, 2009

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Homosexuality is a mortal sin. It is a sin against Gods' plan and Will for the human race as well as falling under the category of adultery per the Roman Catholic Church.

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Too bad God is not more concerned with behavior that affects others...like war and genocide. he seems way to obsessed with our sex lives.

 Quote: from uscmedic at 6:51 pm on July 3, 2009

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Abortion is a mortal sin. Abortion is the same as murder. This is a violation of the Ten Commandments. This is also a sin against Gods' plan and Will for the human race.

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So God has determined that the taking of a life and sexual practices are equally repellent?

 Quote: from uscmedic at 6:51 pm on July 3, 2009

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They equally separate one from God.  

 Your poll is not adequate as it does not leave room for this option.

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Bigots like you make me laugh. If God had some sort of plan, why not create us so that overcrowding and resource depletion would not threaten our survival...oh wait...maybe he did....maybe he crated a gene allele that would trigger certain people to not produce more people. Did you study any biology to become a medic?

Any God that puts sexual behavior or choices on the same level of importance with a human decision to take a life (if one philosophically or medically agrees that a blastocyst is in fact a life) is morally bankrupt...like you. Jesus never made such an ignorant statement. You Catholics have protected pedophile priests but counter that with your persecution of gays. Let's list your transgressions and decide just how qualified you are to judge others.

BTW...we are having this and other discussion on www.thehereticandthepreacher.com . Christians are certainly welcome...if you dare trot out such unfounded ideas in front of some very informed opposition.

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I'm no bigot thank you. I was merely answering the question based on my religious values. Do I think homosexuals are sinners? Yes, along with every other human. Do I have a problem with them otherwise? No, not at all. A few of my good friends have been homosexual, thank you. I'm not intolerant of them nor do I hate them, so I do not fit the label of a bigot.

Checking that website out now. See you there perhaps.

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I think Christianity is the worst of all.

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Which is not what the topic asked. Try to focus, kiddo.

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Quote: from LogicandReason at 8:10 am on July 4, 2009

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Quote: from uscmedic at 6:51 pm on July 3, 2009

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Homosexuality is a mortal sin. It is a sin against Gods' plan and Will for the human race as well as falling under the category of adultery per the Roman Catholic Church.

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Too bad God is not more concerned with behavior that affects others...like war and genocide. he seems way to obsessed with our sex lives.

Quote: from uscmedic at 6:51 pm on July 3, 2009

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Abortion is a mortal sin. Abortion is the same as murder. This is a violation of the Ten Commandments. This is also a sin against Gods' plan and Will for the human race.

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So God has determined that the taking of a life and sexual practices are equally repellent?

Quote: from uscmedic at 6:51 pm on July 3, 2009

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They equally separate one from God.    

Your poll is not adequate as it does not leave room for this option.

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Bigots like you make me laugh. If God had some sort of plan, why not create us so that overcrowding and resource depletion would not threaten our survival...oh wait...maybe he did....maybe he crated a gene allele that would trigger certain people to not produce more people. Did you study any biology to become a medic?

Any God that puts sexual behavior or choices on the same level of importance with a human decision to take a life (if one philosophically or medically agrees that a blastocyst is in fact a life) is morally bankrupt...like you. Jesus never made such an ignorant statement. You Catholics have protected pedophile priests but counter that with your persecution of gays. Let's list your transgressions and decide just how qualified you are to judge others.

BTW...we are having this and other discussion on www.thehereticandthepreacher.com . Christians are certainly welcome...if you dare trot out such unfounded ideas in front of some very informed opposition.

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I'm no bigot thank you. I was merely answering the question based on my religious values. Do I think homosexuals are sinners? Yes, along with every other human. Do I have a problem with them otherwise? No, not at all. A few of my good friends have been homosexual, thank you. I'm not intolerant of them nor do I hate them, so I do not fit the label of a bigot.  

Checking that website out now. See you there perhaps.

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Then apply those beliefs equally and start a campaign against liars, thieves, and those who promote war!

You like this discussion because it makes you feel superior.  Apply the story about Jesus and the Adulteress that ends John 7 and begins John 8.

The bible was pretty clear about slavery too.

Post edited at 7:44 am on July 5, 2009 by LogicandReason

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"If my fetus were gay" is such an unrealistic question that it can't honestly be answered.

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I dunno about that, imagine if there is a "gay gene" that could be tested for, it wouldn't be too out there for some people who were strongly anti-gay to get an abortion if the child posses the said genes.

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Quote: from jamesish at 2:22 am on July 4, 2009

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"If my fetus were gay" is such an unrealistic question that it can't honestly be answered.

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I dunno about that, imagine if there is a "gay gene" that could be tested for, it wouldn't be too out there for some people who were strongly anti-gay to get an abortion if the child posses the said genes.

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Now that is a moral issue!

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