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Why do people hate the dixie flag?
Replies: 17Last Post July 3 1:57pm by jakelong
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Just because I have it as my avatar doesn't mean I am racist.  I'm not racist at all I like all people, I'm just embracing my roots.


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Too bad you lost the war. You were a fake country.

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"WhiteTrashLilDarling"

"Mississippi"

Oh boy LOL

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It's also pretty much the redneck emblem. You know the world is fucked when you see the confederate flag in WI.

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it has nothing to do with being racist....PEOPLE go look it up in your history books and don't call people things that you know nothing about...i like the flag!!!!

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Quote: from im with stupid at 3:19 pm on July 2, 2009

It's also pretty much the redneck emblem. You know the world is fucked when you see the confederate flag in WI pretty much anyplace.

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There is nothing wrong with the Confederate Flag, some people who think it's a racist symbol are stupid and are probably themselves racist

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It's pretty simple.  People perceive it as a symbol of racism for they often see the American Civil War as a war over slavery, where the Confederacy seceded in an attempt to keep it.

It's an extremely simplistic outlook on the American Civil War to be honest - the kind of version you'd get in your high school US history class.  Slavery was indeed a big issue and as such, it acted as a trigger issue, but other issues were involved - northern economic exploitation of the south, the south's irrelevance in nationwide elections (Lincoln won without a single southern state voting for him), the south's belief that the north had abandoned its roots, etc.  

Moreover, we should not forget how the south saw abolitionism.  Southerners, whom the majority didn't even own any slaves, detested abolitionism primarily because they believed it advocated a giant slave rebellion.  If you look at the Nat Turner slave rebellion, you'll notice many southern individuals were killed.  This is what southerners thought abolitionism to be and thus they saw it as a direct threat against them, whether slave owner or not.  When John Brown attempted to raise a slave rebellion at Harper's Ferry in 1859, it very much confirmed the south's thoughts on abolitionists.  When Lincoln was elected, almost everyone in the south perceived him as an abolitionist as well who would give no help in a slave rebellion and perhaps even encourage one.  In other words, they felt threatened under Lincoln.

Granted, such presumptions about Lincoln were more myth than fact.  Lincoln had absolutely no goal of freeing any slaves - he simply just didn't want slavery expanded into the west.  But given the state of affairs during the American Civil War, he found it useful to announce the Emancipation Proclamation after the Battle of Antietam, which would essentially keep the British and French from interfering against the north and also gain the abolitionists' support against the south.  In other words, it was more of a political move than anything else.  Painting Lincoln as essentially an abolitionist or always wanting to free all slaves is quite wrong - it's the same mistake the south made.


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Meh I don't hate it.

But when I see it I just wonder if the person is really saying they're from the South or if they are trying to tell people of other races to GTFO. I tend to give ppl with that flag a wide berth and look the other way unless they show some other way that they're cool.

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Quote: from Bud2400 at 1:23 pm on July 2, 2009

It's pretty simple. People perceive it as a symbol of racism for they often see the American Civil War as a war over slavery, where the Confederacy seceded in an attempt to keep it.
Well for me thats not really the reason. The reason I would see as symbol of racism is I have seen it used often by some racist groups.

So if I don't know ahead of time what the guy with the flag has in mind I just give him a really wide berth just in case, unless I know the guy or I have a chance to talk to him and he turns out to be cool.

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I don't hate the flag. The people that glorify it, which happen to only be a group of people that I already hate. That group of people, is white trash.

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I can't explain why people hate the Confederate flag, I myself like it, for that is my heritage too.

However, I am wondering why your name is WhiteTrashLilDarling. You are embracing your roots by calling yourself white trash? It sounds more like you are disrespecting yourself and your heritage.

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Quote: from Forgot My Name at 9:14 pm on July 2, 2009

I can't explain why people hate the Confederate flag, I myself like it, for that is my heritage too.
Why is it your "heritage" if you are from Michigan? Do you have ancestors from the South?  


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Quote: from jakelong at 1:45 pm on July 2, 2009

Well for me thats not really the reason. The reason I would see as symbol of racism is I have seen it used often by some racist groups.

True enough, though it's an obvious stereotype.  After all, when we hang our American flags up for the 4th of July, do we agree 100% with those who wave their American flags up when they cry down with gays, liberals are traitors, and yes for Bush?  Obviously not - that's a blatant stereotype and anyone who makes the assumption that the Confederate flag = racist based on racist groups waving the flag is knowledgeable of this.  Hence why ultimately they draw back onto the American Civil War to justify their perception of the flag.


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Quote: from jakelong at 12:56 am on July 3, 2009

Quote: from Forgot My Name at 9:14 pm on July 2, 2009

I can't explain why people hate the Confederate flag, I myself like it, for that is my heritage too.
Why is it your "heritage" if you are from Michigan? Do you have ancestors from the South?


lol, I'm not from Michigan, I moved her when I was six. I have family all over the south. From Florida to Maryland to Louisiana.

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