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Why Bother Drinking (Intellectual Forum)
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Let me tell you why I drink...
When I'm sober, my mind is running a mile a minute.  I'm anxious, I'm overanalyzing, I'm hella self-conscious and paranoid.  I can't help it; it's part of the schizophrenia.

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When I'm tipsy, I can maintain my mind.  I can connect thoughts more logically.  And my writing is the shit!  I'm serious, I write alot better when I've been drinking, and my friends agree with me.  

I'm not an angry drunk.  I'm not a depressed drunk.  If anything, I'm a talkative, extrovert when I'm drunk (and a couple of other conditions are met).  And seeing as how I hate being the quiet stuttering introvert when I'm sober, and that I don't act like a damn fool who has to apologize the next day, I love drinking.

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I completely understand where you are coming from. I can't legally drink where I live yet because I am not eighteen but that's not to say I haven't had a little. The one time I did drink I didn't like the taste at all, how it made me look like an idiot, and the fact that it cost so much.

So yes, I completely understand and agree with your statement. I do, however, understand how someone can use it to get away from problems and get addicted. They can lose themselves in the alcohol and be someone else for just a little while.

They can live in an altered state because they don't like reality.

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I agree. While it can calm you, if you have a little, it just seems like money you piss away.

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swishone


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Well the point of drinking is to have a damn good time , and it works its great!! Also many booze tastes nice thats another good reason.

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I like to sit back sipping my wine and eating my chocolate. Not quite as good as sex but not bad at all. And its all good for me. Lovely ain't it?

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Quote: from Themakingofagod at 3:25 am on June 30, 2009

I understand it is a way of gathering with your peers and having fun, but are those people really that fun to hang around with if you need to be inebriated in order to have a good time?

It's a way to have a good time, but that doesn't mean you NEED it to have a good time.
For example sometimes i play football with my friends for fun but that doesn't mean they're not really fun to hang around with because I need football to have a good time.
I get drunk with friends, I hang out sober with the same friends. Both are fun, in different ways.


If you are going through problems, alcohol, which is a depressant, will actually cause you to feel worse about your problems

You've misunderstood the term depressant. This means it depresses the electrical signals in your brain, that doesn't mean it makes you depressed. Sure it depresses some people, makes other people happier. Not that i'm arguing alcohol is the solution to your problems, of course.


Most everyone knows the physical, social, emotional, and legal dangers it could possibly put you in, but most people find it worth the fun to go out and drink

The risk is worth it because after drinking, instead of ending up having your stomach pumped and in jail, 90% of the time you'll wake up with a slight hangover and some good (if somewhat fragmented) memories.


You wake up halfway through the next day, and you feel like you've been hit by a truck, a.k.a., a hangover.  The next day even, you're probably still not feeling the greatest, and you have to make sure the mess that was made was cleaned up

Hangovers are different for different people. I have two points to make here. Firstly you can drink and even get drunk without having a ridiculously wild night where you fuck everything up.
Secondly, even if I do have one of those ridiculously wild nights, I normally feel fine by lunchtime the next day.

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Drinking is a social lubricant, it helps strangers get along with each other, and like somebody else said, drinking does not mean having a huge party and getting absolutely wasted. You can wake up after a night of drinking, without a hangover.

For example, just yesterday, I met up with a few friends at the bar. We had a beer or two and just had a good time. There's nothing wrong with that. It's just something to do. So, why do anything?

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I definitely agree with the OP, most of my friends either drink, smoke weed, or do both, and it irritates the hell out of me. The thing that keeps me from doing it (besides my morals) is the fact that there is no positive effect of doing either, and only potential negative.

...that and the potential to get hooked.

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Evolutionism


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In response to the "alcohol is not to blame" argument, that "a liquid is not to blame"; this type of argument is analogous to "guns don't kill people, people kill people;" they are both trying to argue semantics. Guns, like alcohol are both catalysts for negative consequences. Using guns in moderation is still killing in moderation, and using alcohol in moderation is still putting a toxic substance in your body (it is a toxin that your body than attempts to break down). That being said, the scientific studies that claim that alcohol have health benefits can only prove correlation, not causation. That is, people who are healthy may drink a little alcohol, but it has yet been proved to be the cause of good health. For example, the French (as a whole) are certainly more healthy than Americans (as a whole). However, a part from drinking the occasional glass of wine, they also often take three hours to eat a meal, which is much better for your digestive system; they eat smaller quantities, which is again a healthier way to live.

So, it cannot be conclusively argued that alcohol is good for your body; much like smoking, it is bad for your body. However, people enjoy the consequence of poisoning themselves. I stop there, however the consequences are also inherently negative. A person on this thread mentioned that it allows people to act how they otherwise would and implied that's a good thing. Yes, it can be a good thing, but if you can act like that under the influence, you can act like that sober. For example, it may help you approach people that you otherwise wouldn't. Well, you CAN approach any one you want, making it easier as a result to an external substance is only harming your own self development into a person that you want to be.

It cannot be argued that alcohol is good for you, only that individual people enjoy the negative effects of negative substances. This, in moderation, won't be the end of you, however, no one is going to say, shoot up coke in moderation, or cut yourself in moderation. So, my question is, why even do that?

Quote: from downwardspiral at 12:36 am on July 15, 2009


It's none of anyone else's business what I take into my body

It IS people's business. One person drinking can easily affect people around zere, whether it is positively, negatively, greatly, or negligibly. Furthermore, I'd doubt you'd say that to the relatives of the victims of drink driving accidents. This type of exclaimation, "It's not your business" is immature at best. Humanity is not a series of individuals that happen to be living in close proximity with others, but rather it is a social species based in community. Something a group of people do DO affect the other people in that community or social group, whether or not they care.

Quote: from TheSte at 9:12 am on July 15, 2009


I know, the OP was talking about heavy drinking, which i don't condone at all, but it's just fun, drinking in moderation. I'm having a party tonight, and plan to get drunk, I also plan to have a brilliant time.  

Getting drunk is far from an example of moderate drinking and I doubt that many people would disagree.

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Anything is a catalyst for a negative consequence. Pick an item, people can find a way to use it irresponsibly and do harm.

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Why bother drinking? Because it's enjoyable. A pint after work eases the pain from my heels, and gives me opportunity to chat to colleagues without being interrupted by customers every half minute or so. A night out on the lash takes me through the range of highs you get from alcohol - the fuzzy feeling of being tipsy, the stage where absolutely EVERYTHING is hilarious, through to the inability to walk straight (causes falling down curbs, walking into lamp posts, etc...) and being able to find it funny, and losing all inhibitions so that you can dance crazily and not care about it, and say what's on your mind and not have to care about it, because you know your friends won't care about it either. What's more, I only get hangovers from ale, so when I wake up (at 7am the next day, not half way through it), I'm right as rain. In fact, I'm normally better than I usually am when I wake up.

Why bother not drinking? Good times are guaranteed.

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lowers your soial inhibitions

and by "depressant" it means it's a central-nervous system depressant, not that it'll necessarily make you depressed

alcohol can make you feel happy, as can heroine and other CNS-depressants

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Orangevango


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holy hell,

Its amazing to me that people like you exist
There's no legitimate reason to drink?

http://beeradvocate.com/

Beer is one of the most varied, complex, delicious, and history-steeped substances you can put in your mouth.

Its impossible to consume alcohol in moderation?

REALLY?

That's funny, millions of people around the world manage it every day.

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Quote: from Moridin at 7:17 pm on July 1, 2009

Furthermore, your position is disproved by science. You are basically ignoring the phenomena of addiction. The point is that when you are drunk, you are not at your senses as you would be when you are sober, so the alcohol is indeed 'forcing' you into your car. The cognitive breaks that would prevent you from getting in your car is no longer operational.

You clearly have no knowledge of neurochemistry at all.



and you clearly have no knowledge of how alcohol effects people who arent idiots, which tell me you are either an idot, you've never had alcohol, or both. In any case, STFU


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We are but puppets controlled by strings in the hands of GABA agonists.

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