Why can't that message be just sent "From Support Leader" like some moderator actions are?

If they want to question why it was removed, then there is no reason why they can't post it in Member-to-Moderator.

-------
Me break the rules? No,i test their elasticity.

you're not moderators anyway, you're support leaders

-------

From a distance you look like my friend,

even though we are at war.

---

all our removed posts are from our account, if you can't deal with it, don't hide it.

you're not moderators anyway, you're support leaders

---

It's not the fact that I can't handle it, it's that it's unecessary. The time it takes to read abusive messages from them could be better spent elsewhere.

-------
Me break the rules? No,i test their elasticity.

We only have topic removals and DoSS masked by "moderator" everything else comes from our user.

You are Support Leaders, support instead of moderating if your time is better spent elsewhere

-------

From a distance you look like my friend,

even though we are at war.

---

Well, the simplest thing is not to moderate.

We only have topic removals and DoSS masked by "moderator" everything else comes from our user.

You are Support Leaders, support instead of moderating if your time is better spent elsewhere

---

So you're telling me not to help keep the site clean, then I see mods screaming out saying they can't cover the whole site by themselves?

I'm not trying to pick a fight, I just think you're contradicting yourself. I don't have a problem with hiding/moving topics, I'm making suggestions to try to help improve how the site works.

-------
Me break the rules? No,i test their elasticity.

And, reporting things does just as well as using the hide feature yourself.

You're a Support Leader, not a moderator. Making this a feature will benefit the site in no way whatsoever.

and you say you have better things to do than listen to people rant about post removals -- you have better things to do than hide replies, in that case, as Support Leaders.

-------

From a distance you look like my friend,

even though we are at war.

But, it does make me think about my actions - and I've also had to harden up and accept that some people are going to dislike me for doing things 'to them'.

Can they submit an MER on an SL's action, or is the only option to take it up with the SL in question or make a topic?

I disagree because it is your responsibility to adequately look into every single rebuttal made by a member who's post you've removed.  If you've removed it, you must have a valid logical reason why.  If you feel you have made an error, then you must either file an mer with the post listed, or talk to a mod via pm.

-------
I don't know, I think I am 70/40 on this issue. I always give it my 110%.

If they have a certain reason to explain/disagree with the removal of their post, then they should be able to talk to you directly about it. Instead of having to (like you said) go to your profile and message you. I don't see any reason why the current system is flawed. I disagree with the thought of trying to be hidden in what we do. If you made a mistake, you should be able to stand up and say that you did. If they are just a little grumpy, then you have to be able to take it with a grain of salt and move on.

I disagree completely.

-------
███ΞPerishΞ███

And if you removed a post with the right intentions and for the right reason, then it should be easy to explain to a complaining member why there post was deleted. If by chance you're not getting through, then you can direct them to either contact a mod or file a MER. You don't have to hear them complain and complain. But they do have right to complain not matter how trivial the argument is over.

I still have a stored message from a member complaining about a post removal from last year. It actually kinda hurt my feelings. But I took it for what it was worth and replied with a cool head. And many other SLs can do the same.

I understand your reasoning but we should be completely accountable for our actions. And members should know who it's from since moderation is no where in our "test" to even become SLs or something we primarily focus on.

most people making arguments against the OP here seem to me to be doing so because they are somewhat morally opposed to the idea of somebody "hiding"...which doesn't really have anything to do with the established ideals of the site, while the amount of flaming does

if somebody actually cares about their post being re-added, they will certainly click a link to make an MER or a topic in M2M

Post edited at 8:29 pm on July 5, 2009 by hithere