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( Praise the Lard )
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Yeah we are all evil close-minded assfaces who just shut down religious arguments for no reason other than to be butts.
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Forever Angel
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Quote: from Praise the Lard at 2:00 am on July 7, 2009
Yeah we are all evil close-minded assfaces who just shut down religious arguments for no reason other than to be butts.
Aha, I knew it!
------- "God does not play dice" - Albert Einstein "God does play dice" - Stephen Hawking Bohica
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I am an agnostic-atheist... don't get me wrong... I accept all the religions as "possible" things, but not following any.
------- Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery and today is a gift! That's why we call it PRESENT.
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Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:07 pm on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 4:33 pm on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:19 am on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Praise the Lard at 6:23 pm on July 6, 2009
They can. Happily, in this case, it's the truth. 
Except for the part where only atheists can be open minded. 
If you accept religious claims uncritically (which almost all theists do), then how can you be truly open minded? 
Are religious claims the only measure of one's open or closed mind? 
No, but they are one measure. If you accept any claims uncritically, you are not truly open-minded. Religion is the specific topic of this discussion though so please do not switch it to whether or not you accept culinary claims uncritically, thanks in advance.
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Forever Angel
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Quote: from Praise the Lard at 9:41 am on July 8, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:07 pm on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 4:33 pm on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:19 am on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Praise the Lard at 6:23 pm on July 6, 2009
They can. Happily, in this case, it's the truth. 
Except for the part where only atheists can be open minded. 
If you accept religious claims uncritically (which almost all theists do), then how can you be truly open minded? 
Are religious claims the only measure of one's open or closed mind? 
No, but they are one measure. If you accept any claims uncritically, you are not truly open-minded. Religion is the specific topic of this discussion though so please do not switch it to whether or not you accept culinary claims uncritically, thanks in advance. 
The topic title is "Open-mindedness" and there is nothing in the OP that states it's about religion. Other than the 'slanted' vid. And even if a person is close minded about his religion, that doesn't speak to the overall condition of his mind. I don't necessarily accept any claims uncritically, but I also don't reject any simply on the say-so of a closed minded atheist. And being an atheist doesn't automatically confer the status of open mindedness. Nor does being a scientist. Post edited at 12:19 pm on July 8, 2009 by Forever Angel
------- "God does not play dice" - Albert Einstein "God does play dice" - Stephen Hawking Bohica
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Quote: from Forever Angel at 12:15 pm on July 8, 2009
Quote: from Praise the Lard at 9:41 am on July 8, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:07 pm on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Moridin at 4:33 pm on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Forever Angel at 4:19 am on July 7, 2009
Quote: from Praise the Lard at 6:23 pm on July 6, 2009
They can. Happily, in this case, it's the truth. 
Except for the part where only atheists can be open minded. 
If you accept religious claims uncritically (which almost all theists do), then how can you be truly open minded? 
Are religious claims the only measure of one's open or closed mind? 
No, but they are one measure. If you accept any claims uncritically, you are not truly open-minded. Religion is the specific topic of this discussion though so please do not switch it to whether or not you accept culinary claims uncritically, thanks in advance. 
The topic title is "Open-mindedness" and there is nothing in the OP that states it's about religion. Other than the 'slanted' vid. And even if a person is close minded about his religion, that doesn't speak to the overall condition of his mind.
In case you missed it, I wrote the op, which consists solely of a video about religion and a statement directed at you, personally. Yes. It does. If you are not critical about one thing, you are not 100% open-minded. That's pretty self-evident, but you seemed to have missed that point so I guess I'll just spell it out. That's all I said.
I don't necessarily accept any claims uncritically, but I also don't reject any simply on the say-so of a closed minded atheist. And being an atheist doesn't automatically confer the status of open mindedness. Nor does being a scientist. 
Atheists can be close-minded. Scientists can't. Last time I'll say it; being a scientist means you follow the scientific method, which means you are open-minded. You don't have to wear a white lab coat, goggles and play with bunsens to be a scientist. A scientist is a follower of the scientific method. Which means that you will listen to anything that has reasonable evidence and accept it as truth as long as that theory is not disproved or overshadowed by a theory which explains, models and predicts the world better. You cannot be a scientist without being open-minded about the world. You cannot be a scientist without being open-minded about the world.
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